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[Netserk]

conspiracy theory
noun

: a theory that explains an event or situation as the result of a secret plan by usually powerful people or groups

Sounds pretty spot on in most cases.

 

[Master50]

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Can anyone explain how the thread on bike doping is a clinic subject? is it just to give those something to talk about?
How is putting motor in a bike anything to do with doping? adding the word doping does not make it so. It is a technical discussion, not a doping discussion and in fact it has nothing to do with human performance enhancement.
Caveat I despise the clinic.

Yes it certainly is a hellhole over there. One must leave reason behind to enter willingly

I know why master hates the clinic - because he is one of like 2 people on the planet who actually believes Horner was clean
But I don't know why you are moaning about it, let alone suggesting it's devoid of reason. Considering the two riders you most vocally support are contador and Valverde it really is a bit of a headscratcher. You think they are clean, or just upset that people consider blood doping to be cheating and don't let riders who did it off the hook?

Hitch I have certainly defended Horner from what i see is circumstantial evidence. I have been around too long to be certain of anyone's veracity. I see Horner's career from my own perspective. It has room for Horner's win within the rules.

So far no one can explain the reason that subject it is in the clinic unless the forum title changes to the Clinic and cheating in general. Maybe it is to give those guys something else to rage about?

The technical sub forum has lots of space to discuss mechanical cheating but then the interjections of Cippolini's abs would be banned.

I have a lot of interest in things mechanical and technical. by putting this subject in the clinic means I have to wade through that mud. It is the only thing about this new forum I quite like. I can avoid the clinic most of the time.

 

[The Hitch]

Mods, is this not an admission of trolling?

"Stuff we have no idea about"

But though you have "no idea" about it, you know enough to be able to tell who is on it by looking at them.

Makes sense.

See Hitch your like a fish with half a brain ,,,,easy to reel in.

You got there first ahead of your mates , well done

Brilliant , love this forum

From a poster everyone already knew was only here to troll and who in his first post on the forum admitted he was only here because he was banned for trolling on his other forums?

 

[Netserk]

On a different note: It doesn't seem like the new reporting system is working as well as the old. Do you still want us to just report and ignore, or should we pm you? It seems like there're some bigger holes in the net now than before. I reported a post in the spoiler-free-recap thread, because it contains a spoiler and the poster hasn't edited it himself, but I guess that if you have to enter the thread or something to see the reports, I can't fault you for not noticing.

 

[Eshnar]

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On a different note: It doesn't seem like the new reporting system is working as well as the old. Do you still want us to just report and ignore, or should we pm you? It seems like there're some bigger holes in the net now than before. I reported a post in the spoiler-free-recap thread, because it contains a spoiler and the poster hasn't edited it himself, but I guess that if you have to enter the thread or something to see the reports, I can't fault you for not noticing.

truth is that we mods are simply not as active as we used to. In my case, for instance, even if there's the Giro I barely manage to post 2-3 posts per day. The new report system is not as annoying as the previous one, which in this case is a drawback
PMs would not work well. My inbox would get full in a day.
You can send it via PM only if absolutely necessary/urgent

@Hitch: Trolling maybe not. Baiting, surely. Also considering his particular wording.

 

[Netserk]

Ok, thanks for the quick answer.

 

[King Boonen]

Sounds like you need more mods. Good luck with that...

 

[BigMac]

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Sounds like you need more mods. Good luck with that...

Maybe not more, but new mods.

 

[ebandit]

if moderators are no longer active on the forum why do they remain moderators?

thanks!

Mark L

 

[Netserk]

Re:

if moderators are no longer active on the forum why do they remain moderators?

thanks!

Mark L

Maybe they are only temporarily absent.

 

[ebandit]

180mm crank last visited 11 august 2013

palmerq last visited 18 january 2013

Mark L

 

[Netserk]

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180mm crank last visited 11 august 2013

palmerq last visited 18 january 2013

Mark L

Ah, them.

No one gets fired/turned off. Ever.

It's the same reason why that no matter what Berzin will always be a mod until he doesn't want to any longer.

 

[python]

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Netserk:

Ah, them.

No one gets fired/turned off. Ever.

It's the same reason why that no matter what Berzin will always be a mod until he doesn't want to any longer.

ah, yeah, the berzin boy, berzin..the poor chap=the a convenient boy for beating.

sure, he's made a bunch of poor judgements. in fact, i recall several of my own posts where i challenged his opinions or his moderating actions. unlike your multiple jabs at berzin, i only bothered to address his posts, when they clearly disagreed with my stance...

hence the difference btwn you, netserk , and me re. berzin. unlike you, i never was moderating this board and thus was never his teammate. thus my genuine amazement at your, imo, low class bashing of a former teammate...

the fact that i would consider it inappropriate, certainly does not mean that you shall forgo your legitimate right to bash a disagreeable mod. yet being a former mod, - including being one of the MOST active posters in the thread about modding - i just wonder why would you not prefer to carry your cross (and stay) in order to offset the negative effects of the mod whose actions you find negative ?

in my way of thinking, a former mod should show care and reservation regarding his former teammates regardless of opinions, however right or wrong.

you show exactly the opposite of the tenet. in fact, as a non-mod now you try to influence the moderating decisions which you had the privilege to take. in that regard, i can't dissociate from an image of sniping from behind a bush...

 

[King Boonen]

Well that was unnecessary...

 

[the sceptic]

python for mod

 

[The Hitch]

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Netserk:

in my way of thinking, a former mod should show care and reservation regarding his former teammates regardless of opinions, however right or wrong.

You mean like Landis with Armstrong?

 

[BigMac]

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Well that was unnecessary...

Quoted for truth. Where did you pull that one from, python?

 

[python]

Re:

python for mod

thanks. it was suggested before and not once, including by some of the current mods who approached me. pls, note, that several of the dog-piling, moaning groupies would not like the eventuality. you can see it here. it's like a predict-machine.

Netserk:

in my way of thinking, a former mod should show care and reservation regarding his former teammates regardless of opinions, however right or wrong.

You mean like Landis with Armstrong?

are you ok ? take your nonsense off-topic to the clinic.

 

[BigMac]

...

 

[python]

there is a sick perception at work here ...

this thread is about mods. my post was simply about a former mod being not very upright and classy when bashing a team mate. whatever none sense the dog-piling groupies imagine, my post was certainty not about.

 

[Red Rick]

Could the power estimatations thread in the clinic be stickied? It's a really interesting thread and I think most of us don't want to search through dozens of when there's big climbing stages again. And it's not like there's too many sticky threads cluttering the clinic

 

[Eshnar]

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Could the power estimatations thread in the clinic be stickied? It's a really interesting thread and I think most of us don't want to search through dozens of when there's big climbing stages again. And it's not like there's too many sticky threads cluttering the clinic

fair enough

 

[Red Rick]

Cool, thank you

 

[Master50]

Re: Re:

Can anyone explain how the thread on bike doping is a clinic subject? is it just to give those something to talk about?
How is putting motor in a bike anything to do with doping? adding the word doping does not make it so. It is a technical discussion, not a doping discussion and in fact it has nothing to do with human performance enhancement.
Caveat I despise the clinic.

Yes it certainly is a hellhole over there. One must leave reason behind to enter willingly

I know why master hates the clinic - because he is one of like 2 people on the planet who actually believes Horner was clean
But I don't know why you are moaning about it, let alone suggesting it's devoid of reason. Considering the two riders you most vocally support are contador and Valverde it really is a bit of a headscratcher. You think they are clean, or just upset that people consider blood doping to be cheating and don't let riders who did it off the hook?

To quote Eshnar:
"In general, the PRR should be for those who enjoy the sport just as it appears. On the contrary, the Clinic is for the conspiracy theories, for the covert actions and all the stuff that would make race threads...unreadable."

I have lived the longest, at age 64, then my siblings, who averaged 53 years on this earth. I am to old to waste what time I have left on earth reading the vortexing, conspiracy theories and general combative arguments that is the clinic. I prefer to ENJOY the sport as it appears on the road. It's really that simple. Same reason I refuse to respond to baiting in PRR, I don't have time to waste on arguments with people whose opinion I will never change .

Humm I spent 10 minutes of the time I have left writing this.......

Based on this response then change the title of the clinic to include these other discussion points. Again bikes and their parts are technical and the talk about bike doping is also an academic discussion about illegal technical innovation. by placing the subject in the clinic is stifles that aspect of a legitimate technical discussion. the conspiracy theory is sub text. it is almost impossible to have a technical discussion under that cloud.
If it is the intent to have all of these theoretical discussion on all the possible methods of cheating and doping then please change the title appropriately. Right now the discussion seems to argue endlessly about whether Cancellara used a motor and I might agree that is more about cheating than whether is is feasible or the technology that would make it possible.
Putting a motor in a race bike is not doping it is either a technical or cheating discussion but not a doping subject. that the mods seem to think it is appropriately placed also seems to lac a connection to the subject area. the subject areas says it ifs for the discussion of doping.
Can't the title reflect all subjects appropriate to that area?

 

[mrhender]

I posted "Don't look down" the wrong place.. Could you move to café..

Thanks..