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The Cycling News forum is looking to add some volunteer moderators with Red Rick's recent retirement. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to
In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.
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OK folks, lets stop that one there. This is the thread to complain about mods after all and if it gets clogged up we might not notice being told how terrible we are.
I'm just curious about the difference between red mods and green mods. Seniority? Amount of power? Cake?
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Red Rick and King Boonen have been added to the forum administrators group which allows them to have access to the forum software administrator panel. Having this access allows them to certain tools that help make moderation a little more efficient and they can take care of forum housekeeping. They’re still moderators, as Eshnar, Susan and I am.RedheadDane said:
Susan Westemeyer
Retired Moderator
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As Irondan says, they have now access to the dark side of the force :O
Everyone knows Siths use red lightsabersRedheadDane said:
As Irondan says, they have now access to the dark side of the force :O
So... I guess my second guess was the most correct. People who are admins, as well as moderators, have more power than those who are simply moderators.
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Netserk said:Everyone knows Siths use red lightsabersRedheadDane said:
As Irondan says, they have now access to the dark side of the force :O
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The power rests in Susan's and my hands....
They just have more tools.RedheadDane said:
The power rests in Susan's and my hands....
Hello. What were the two bans for? I HONESTLY have no idea.
Thansk for an answer. I hope my conlusion that this is the thread to ask such questions is right.
Thansk for an answer. I hope my conlusion that this is the thread to ask such questions is right.
Two personal attacks/ trolling posts. I believe they were also I a thread where I had specifically asked users to calm down and stop this.Kokoso said:
So when you ask why is someone acting stupid, is that personal attack, or trolling?King Boonen said:
a note to king boonen or any other mod: pls note that since his comeback the dude resorted to the same lil Qs (in all of his 4 or 5 posts, mind you) with which he baited irondan earlier or other posters...
one cant avoid the impression that the answers are either obvious or the lil Qs can't be satisfied
one cant avoid the impression that the answers are either obvious or the lil Qs can't be satisfied
It’s both, along with flaming, baiting and being disrespectful to another forum member.Kokoso said:
Perhaps a quick read through the forum rules will help you to not cross the line again, if that’s what you hope to avoid.
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I can't actually believe that I need to say this again but here we go:
If you have a problem with a post or posts a user is making then use the report function and report them. Calling out users in any way is generally considered trolling and will be dealt as such by the moderators. If you feel the report function doesn't allow you to explain the issue fully then PM a mod/admin. We take all reports seriously and discuss them as a group.
python said:a note to king boonen or any other mod: pls note that since his comeback the dude resorted to the same lil Qs (in all of his 4 or 5 posts, mind you) with which he baited irondan earlier or other posters...
one cant avoid the impression that the answers are either obvious or the lil Qs can't be satisfied
I can't actually believe that I need to say this again but here we go:
If you have a problem with a post or posts a user is making then use the report function and report them. Calling out users in any way is generally considered trolling and will be dealt as such by the moderators. If you feel the report function doesn't allow you to explain the issue fully then PM a mod/admin. We take all reports seriously and discuss them as a group.
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To expand a bit. Question the post, not the poster. It's fine to disagree with a post, as long as you back it up, but just accusing a poster of being stupid is always going to result in action, no matter what the circumstances.
But I was not accusing poster of being stupid.King Boonen said:
Edit: there is a difference between saying someone is stupid and saying someone is acting stupid, isn't it?
Not really, no. But there's a big difference in saying someone is acting stupid or saying that they're stupid and saying that a post is stupid. By calling a post stupid it still is a poor choice of words but it's not making the comment personal. Anytime you make a derogatory remark and you make it personal you'll run into problems. Am I saying that you should call everyone's post "stupid" when you don't agree with it? Absolutely not, you should always think about a better choice of words to describe a post that you think is stupid.Kokoso said:
We're here to discuss each other's comments, not the poster personally. Which is exactly what King Boonen alluded to above in pointing out the "Post, Not Poster" policy.
Why are posters not receiving bans for posting Clinic stuff in the PRR Chris Froome thread? There have been multiple warnings already issued by mods/admins. Posters are choosing to ignore those and post whatever they feel like
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Bans are not the only way we deal with these things, just because a user doesn't receive a ban doesn't mean there has been no moderation. In this specific case, generally this course of moderation is because the situation has made it complicated for people to work out what is acceptable and what isn't, especially as a lot of this can come down to moderator opinion. Things that might cross the line are discussing that border on speculation about whether Froome was doping, such as schedule, should Sky pull him from racing and so on. We recognise that it's very difficult to have a discussion about his schedule going forward and avoid this, so we are taking a very light touch to moderating that thread. Obvious doping talk will still be dealt with in the same way it always is, even the posts users think are sneaky, but we'd prefer to air on the side of caution when it isn't obvious.
Of course, users can be of huge help here. Reporting posts that are about doping AND not responding to them helps maintain the thread and makes it easy for us to deal with. Not furthering the conversation when a post borders on clinic stuff and steering it away from this area is also very helpful.
silvergrenade said:
Bans are not the only way we deal with these things, just because a user doesn't receive a ban doesn't mean there has been no moderation. In this specific case, generally this course of moderation is because the situation has made it complicated for people to work out what is acceptable and what isn't, especially as a lot of this can come down to moderator opinion. Things that might cross the line are discussing that border on speculation about whether Froome was doping, such as schedule, should Sky pull him from racing and so on. We recognise that it's very difficult to have a discussion about his schedule going forward and avoid this, so we are taking a very light touch to moderating that thread. Obvious doping talk will still be dealt with in the same way it always is, even the posts users think are sneaky, but we'd prefer to air on the side of caution when it isn't obvious.
Of course, users can be of huge help here. Reporting posts that are about doping AND not responding to them helps maintain the thread and makes it easy for us to deal with. Not furthering the conversation when a post borders on clinic stuff and steering it away from this area is also very helpful.
Can a mod move the discussion about who'll lead Quickstep in the MSR (from the Dubai thread) into the new Quickstep thread?
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