GVFTA
BANNED
Why was the US Politics thread the only one closed? British, World Politics are still active. You can't close one and not all. That is what was claimed by the Admin.
The Cycling News forum is still looking to add volunteer moderators with. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to
In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.
Thanks!
if the US politics thread takes so much of the mods time, why are so few of the suspended members people that post there on a regular basis? i went back and looked and see very few. sounds like a bulls&^% reason to me.Why was the US Politics thread the only one closed? British, World Politics are still active. You can't close one and not all. That is what was claimed by the Admin.
Why was the US Politics thread the only one closed? British, World Politics are still active. You can't close one and not all. That is what was claimed by the Admin.
Yes, it's not clear to me if the mods haven't gotten around to closing those other two threads, or are going to leave them open. If the latter, I don't see how they can justify that. They seem to believe the U.S. politics thread results in more heated discussion than the other political threads, but a lot of U.S. politics is of course relevant to British or World politics, and could be transferred there.
OTOH, if all the political threads are shut down, I think the mods are going to have a lot of trouble rationalizing keeping any other threads open that are not about cycling--music, nature, cats, other sports, et al. The only justification would be that these discussions are not as controversial. But of course a lot of cycling discussions--particularly about doping (and I'm afraid even to mention this, as I wonder if this will be the next part of the forum to get axed)--can get just as heated as political discussions.
With that said, this political discussion thread requires more moderation than any other part of the forums. In an effort to bring all of our discussion threads in line with our existing forum rules, we're closing down this discussion on politics. We will also close any other threads created to discuss politics on these forums.
I agree regarding closing all the politics threads, rather than just the US one, and I think all will go sooner rather than later. That one was just the start as it caused the most problems.
The Admin said all non-cycling threads were going to be closed? to focus only on cycling. Close them all or none.
I'll refer you to this. And how do you explain the Trump bashing in the politics in sports thread?I’ll refer you to this part of the post:
In an effort to bring all of our discussion threads in line with our existing forum rules, we're closing down this discussion on politics. We will also close any other threads created to discuss politics on these forums.
I'll refer you to this. And how do you explain the Trump bashing in the politics in sports thread?
"In an effort to keep the forums civil, we've kept the conversations focused directly on cycling."
The Politics in Sports thread has not been closed. There are two of them. In regards to your comment about "up until this point". What the heck does that mean. I'm pretty sure evidence says the opposite.I believe the admin mean that up until this point, they have kept conversations focused directly on cycling. Not referring to any topic in particular.
In regards to the politics threads, they have been locked and that is end of the matter. There have been quite a number of posts over the last couple of weeks that have broken forum rules in the politics threads, but we have left it in the hands of the developers and this is the final outcome.
In one of my warnings in there dated around 7th January I mentioned that if things didn’t improve, there could be consequences.
The Politics in Sports thread has not been closed. There are two of them. In regards to your comment about "up until this point". What the heck does that mean. I'm pretty sure evidence says the opposite.
it think it is great as it shows the true colors here.The Politics in Sports thread has not been closed. There are two of them. In regards to your comment about "up until this point". What the heck does that mean. I'm pretty sure evidence says the opposite.
it think it is great as it shows the true colors here.
On the other hand, I know there’s a passive crowd out there who were troubled by a lot of the discussions but unable to muster the wherewithal to state their beliefs (rather than being upset by what they don’t belief.) They can rest easy that this will be one less affront or challenge to their personal existence.
it is the world we live in now. a place where people are too weak to disagree and have to censure any debate. and that is the reason you end up with the results of elections and results in life that reflect the lack of discussion through disagreements.While I’m mildly ambivalent about the decision and slightly more troubled by some of the implications as they pertain to public discourse and its sanitization in the present, I’d say the choice to privilege a coherent content and presentation over hits and traffic is something that has to be respected in its own way. And the quality of discourse has declined markedly in recent years for reasons other than changes in moderation. Many of the hits I suspect came from people who just wanted to see a fight. I haven’t wanted to contribute to that element for some time now. On the other hand, I know there’s a passive crowd out there who were troubled by a lot of the discussions but unable to muster the wherewithal to state their beliefs (rather than being upset by what they don’t belief.) They can rest easy that this will be one less affront or challenge to their personal existence and restrict their political conflicts and differences to the makeshift solitude of the voting booth.
I’m not going to belabor this or turn the moderators thread into a proxy for the politics thread. Re. transgender athletes, people, commercial enterprises and institutions contain and naturalize political content all the time. The latter two do it as a means of organizing power and it’s their prerogative until usefully challenged or they fail. People do it for manifold reasons: coping as much as power. You and GVFTA do it constantly. I might suggest that you both find it in yourselves before complaining about it elsewhere. The fact that you both followed me to the beer thread only confirms the developers’ concerns about the dysfunctionality of the politics thread. Speaking of which: useful article in Jacobin about the failure of both political parties.
Laters