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[Louison]

Sorry, where did I ever 'attack' you?

I respectfully asked you to name people who you are making claims about.



Well, it is not obvious to me - who are these people?



You are quick to put me in to this category of 'you people'.
I have never made any reference to LA visiting sick people, nor do I post on any other forum.

You are not being queried on what you say about Armstrong, you are being questioned on what you say about the posters here.

Do you guys have a website that is a guide for what to post as responses on all of the forums? I only ask because you all follow the same patterns.

Claim you never attack or insult anyone.

Feign ignorance about what the person is saying

Select one certain item and latch on to it, trying to use it to "prove" the other person is wrong about everything...even if it means using it out of context.

Try to make what you are doing sound like it is just innocent questions for the good of the forum.

Go to any of the major cycling forums (or ones that used to be but lost members because of the way you guys treat people who don't agree with 100% of what you say.) and this script is followed by you guys every time.

Anyway, it's clear that we have moved into the mode where TFF ignores facts and logic and instead responds with attacks, insults and what he thinks is humor and you are simply following the script, so I will move on. My point has been made and backed up by you guys. Enjoy the last "word" (in quotes because we know that it will be an insult or attack) as you guys always must get in a parting shot.

 

[Anonymous]

Do you guys have a website that is a guide for what to post as responses on all of the forums? I only ask because you all follow the same patterns.

Claim you never attack or insult anyone.

Feign ignorance about what the person is saying

Select one certain item and latch on to it, trying to use it to "prove" the other person is wrong about everything...even if it means using it out of context.

Try to make what you are doing sound like it is just innocent questions for the good of the forum.

Go to any of the major cycling forums (or ones that used to be but lost members because of the way you guys treat people who don't agree with 100% of what you say.) and this script is followed by you guys every time.

Anyway, it's clear that we have moved into the mode where TFF ignores facts and logic and instead responds with attacks, insults and what he thinks is humor and you are simply following the script, so I will move on. My point has been made and backed up by you guys. Enjoy the last "word" (in quotes because we know that it will be an insult or attack) as you guys always must get in a parting shot.

May the force be with you.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Do you guys have a website that is a guide for what to post as responses on all of the forums? I only ask because you all follow the same patterns.

No there is not.

Claim you never attack or insult anyone.

You claim I attacked you.

Feign ignorance about what the person is saying

You could cure my ignorance by answering the simple questions to the claims you make.

Select one certain item and latch on to it, trying to use it to "prove" the other person is wrong about everything...even if it means using it out of context.

Try to make what you are doing sound like it is just innocent questions for the good of the forum.

Go to any of the major cycling forums (or ones that used to be but lost members because of the way you guys treat people who don't agree with 100% of what you say.) and this script is followed by you guys every time.

Which forums? Which posters?

Anyway, it's clear that we have moved into the mode where TFF ignores facts and logic and instead responds with attacks, insults and what he thinks is humor and you are simply following the script, so I will move on. My point has been made and backed up by you guys. Enjoy the last "word" (in quotes because we know that it will be an insult or attack) as you guys always must get in a parting shot.

Who is this 'we' you are on about?
I have not insulted or attacked you, when I asked you where you ignore it to repeat more fabrication.

 

[Race Radio]

Right on cue one of the people I was talking about comes in to go on the attack.

I don's name specific people, because it's obvious to all who I am talking about and, if anyone doesn't know, your angry responses make it pretty clear. It's funny watching you guys get worked up because it's like you are a junior high school boys club that thinks anyone not in it are losers and the principal can't do anything to them.

When it comes to the evil thing it's pretty clear based on the comments made about anything and everything you guys say about Armstrong. If someone mentions him visiting a little girl who has cancer, you guys come up with reasons why he is a jerk for doing it or why it was the wrong thing to do. You guys cant see the forest for the trees. But the best part is that you guys chose to focus on one word and not mention the rest of what I said. That speak volumes.

Post not poster. More blanket insults but zero content.

Yeah, yeah, we get it. Anyone that questions the motives of Lance is a childish hater.... but if they irrationally defend him, parrot discredited talking points, they are what exactly?

 

[Race Radio]

Do you guys have a website that is a guide for what to post as responses on all of the forums? I only ask because you all follow the same patterns.

Claim you never attack or insult anyone.

Feign ignorance about what the person is saying

Select one certain item and latch on to it, trying to use it to "prove" the other person is wrong about everything...even if it means using it out of context.

Try to make what you are doing sound like it is just innocent questions for the good of the forum.

Go to any of the major cycling forums (or ones that used to be but lost members because of the way you guys treat people who don't agree with 100% of what you say.) and this script is followed by you guys every time.

Anyway, it's clear that we have moved into the mode where TFF ignores facts and logic and instead responds with attacks, insults and what he thinks is humor and you are simply following the script, so I will move on. My point has been made and backed up by you guys. Enjoy the last "word" (in quotes because we know that it will be an insult or attack) as you guys always must get in a parting shot.

Examples please.

With the exception of Polish I see plenty of facts on this forum. Seldom look at other forums but used to read DPF often. It is clear what caused it's death, over moderation that favored an irrational myth not based on facts view. This drove users away, not those that questioned it

 

[ChrisE]

Louison's English writing skills are progressing right before our eyes.

 

[Louison]

Examples please.

With the exception of Polish I see plenty of facts on this forum. Seldom look at other forums but used to read DPF often. It is clear what caused it's death, over moderation that favored an irrational myth not based on facts view. This drove users away, not those that questioned it

I'll agree that DPF dies because of the mods, but claiming it was because of over moderation based on being pro-Armstrong could not be further from the truth. Read through it and you will see that people on both sides were angry at the moderation. It wasn't about moderation being pro or anti Armstrong it was about mods who made things personal.

 

[180mmCrank]

Can we all dial this down a bit please.

I would ask everyone to avoid making comments about other posters and stick to the topic... i would say the facts but this topic seems a little light on those

Tery
Admin

 

[Anonymous]

Yep, same old TFF, when faced with facts and logic he goes for the insult.

thats a very strange statement for someone who is new to the forum. "same old" gives the impression of a lengthy period of time, of prior contact with etc.

So who were you in a previous life?

 

[Anonymous]

I'll agree that DPF dies because of the mods, but claiming it was because of over moderation based on being pro-Armstrong could not be further from the truth. Read through it and you will see that people on both sides were angry at the moderation. It wasn't about moderation being pro or anti Armstrong it was about mods who made things personal.

Wait, I thought you were finished posting?

 

[Louison]

Louison's English writing skills are progressing right before our eyes.

Gotta love a guy who praises you for "stirring up the ant bed" against the guys he always argues with, but then gets mad and insults you in a thread when you rip him for his pro-Armstrong nonsense.

 

[ChrisE]

Gotta love a guy who praises you for "stirring up the ant bed" against the guys he always argues with, but then gets mad and insults you in a thread when you rip him for his pro-Armstrong nonsense.

Don't make enemies on PM, then.

 

[Louison]

thats a very strange statement for someone who is new to the forum. "same old" gives the impression of a lengthy period of time, of prior contact with etc.

So who were you in a previous life?

Perhaps if you read the posts instead of looking for things to use to attack with you would have noticed me talking about other forums and about reading this one for a while.

In light of those facts it's not very strange is it.

 

[Louison]

Don't make enemies on PM, then.

I am an enemy now? Cool. What do I get? Will you follow me around making asinine posts and trying to insult me like TFF???? Or do I get some sort of leaders jersey?

 

[180mmCrank]

Enough!


Otherwise people are going to be given some holiday time.

 

[Race Radio]

I am struggling to figure out the topic here. "New" poster come on the board claiming "You guys suck!" and "You ruined the internet!"

Am I missing something?

 

[Benotti69]

I am struggling to figure out the topic here. "New" poster come on the board claiming "You guys suck!" and "You ruined the internet!"

Am I missing something?

you forgot to add like hundreds before and all with the same agenda

 

[Race Radio]

you forgot to add like hundreds before and all with the same agenda

Shhh, don't point that out or you will be banned

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I am struggling to figure out the topic here. "New" poster come on the board claiming "You guys suck!" and "You ruined the internet!"

Am I missing something?

Yes.
When (politely) asked to clarify who they mean and where others made these remarks, instead of pointing out where, claims that they are being attacked.

 

[180mmCrank]

Excited as I am that moderation is one of the hot topic.

I have PM'd most people in this thread ... last time - don't stir this particular pot anymore.

Thanks

Terry
Admin

 

[Anonymous]

Sooo, how 'bout those moderators, huh?

...Tough crowd.

I just flew in from Chicago and man my arms are tired.

...

Take my wife, please.

 

[BroDeal]

Sooo, how 'bout those moderators, huh?

...Tough crowd.

I just flew in from Chicago and man my arms are tired.

...

Take my wife, please.

Come one. It's all really simple. A handfull of trolls--really only about one--are allowed to spam threads into a toxic waste dump that are not worth reading but no one is allowed to complain about the effect. The right of free speech used to destroy the value of threads cannot be violated.

Heck I even have an interest in the subject, but as it is I might glance at an Armstrong thread once a week. The non-stop trolling has turned any thread that mentions Armstrong into a toilet thread where it is not worth searching through the crap to find a few niblets of corn. The signal to noise ratio approaches zero.

 

[Anonymous]

Come one. It's all really simple. A handfull of trolls--really only about one--are allowed to spam threads into a toxic waste dump that are not worth reading but no one is allowed to complain about the effect. The right of free speech used to destroy the value of threads cannot be violated.

Heck I even have an interest in the subject, but as it is I might glance at an Armstrong thread once a week. The non-stop trolling has turned any thread that mentions Armstrong into a toilet thread where it is not worth searching through the crap to find a few niblets of corn. The signal to noise ratio approaches zero.

Yep, and even when it is obviously so, you get the "freedom of speech" line. That is why I was so disgusted with Susan. There isn't the slightest in recognition from her regarding something so easily detectable that a blind man can pick up on it. I post pretty sparingly there now. The pattern is: Troll post->5 posts refuting an obvious troll->some defense of the original post->5 more posts refuting an obvious troll post->Troll post, rinse and repeat

But if you dare point that out, you get a good keyboard lashing from Susan telling you how you are exactly like them in every way and you have no right to complain.

Maddening.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Sometimes the moderation is baffling.

 

[Polish]

Come one. It's all really simple. A handfull of trolls--really only about one--are allowed to spam threads into a toxic waste dump that are not worth reading but no one is allowed to complain about the effect. The right of free speech used to destroy the value of threads cannot be violated.

Heck I even have an interest in the subject, but as it is I might glance at an Armstrong thread once a week. The non-stop trolling has turned any thread that mentions Armstrong into a toilet thread where it is not worth searching through the crap to find a few niblets of corn. The signal to noise ratio approaches zero.

You want to say I have turned many threads into toxic waste dumps fine.

The "Lance PeePee" thread and the "Lance Lies" Thread and the "Livestrong Thread" and the "Official Lance Thread" and sooo many others are toxic because of me. The hookers and blow and jetfuel and bribes and adultery and sprinklers and corn nuggets and this and that were all fine until I made them toxic. Fine.

You realize that the Mods Job would be much EASIER if they banned me. Their job became easier after they banned poor old flicker.
The Mods are NOT taking the path of least resistance you know.

And it is going to get worse when more and more people realize that the indictments and jail time and jail boyfriends are not forthcoming.

Anger City. The Clinic will not be pretty.

If I do get a perma ban someday, I would understand why the Mods did it.
Sorry, Mods, for the crap you have to put up with because of my posts.