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[Irondan]

Mods, can the Froome data testing thread be opened again? Likely the report will be released soon (maybe).

Worthy to have that thread as well during the Tour.

I need to look at the reason we closed it, I don't recall off the top of my head.

If there's no reason to keep it closed we can look at re-opening it soon.

 

[StryderHells]

I can understand why The Kingdom of Bahrain Cycling Team thread was locked but just wondering if it will be reopened once it's been tidied up?

 

[Pricey_sky]

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I can understand why The Kingdom of Bahrain Cycling Team thread was locked but just wondering if it will be reopened once it's been tidied up?

Yes it will be reopened at some point later in the year, probably when riders are confirmed as signed. Whilst there are lots of rumours it just seems a magnet for non-cycling related talk.

For now we agreed it was best if it was locked due to the content posted.

 

[Cuulio]

Hi!

Could you please open the topic Do you like to watch pro cycling events?

If you have any questions about the app I am more than happy to answer.

 

[StryderHells]

Re: Re:

I can understand why The Kingdom of Bahrain Cycling Team thread was locked but just wondering if it will be reopened once it's been tidied up?

Yes it will be reopened at some point later in the year, probably when riders are confirmed as signed. Whilst there are lots of rumours it just seems a magnet for non-cycling related talk.

For now we agreed it was best if it was locked due to the content posted.

That's a fair call, hopefully once it's reopened discussing the ethical issues behind this potential team will be allowed.
Cheers for answering my question

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Hi!

Could you please open the topic Do you like to watch pro cycling events?

If you have any questions about the app I am more than happy to answer.

Your thread will not be reopened.

Please feel free to contribute to other topics on this forum

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Re: Re:

I can understand why The Kingdom of Bahrain Cycling Team thread was locked but just wondering if it will be reopened once it's been tidied up?

Yes it will be reopened at some point later in the year, probably when riders are confirmed as signed. Whilst there are lots of rumours it just seems a magnet for non-cycling related talk.

For now we agreed it was best if it was locked due to the content posted.

That's a fair call, hopefully once it's reopened discussing the ethical issues behind this potential team will be allowed.
Cheers for answering my question

Hopefully so. Discussing the human rights implications of the Bahrain team cannot possibly be off-topic because they are an integral part of the media coverage of this team.

 

[Pricey_sky]

Re: Re:

I can understand why The Kingdom of Bahrain Cycling Team thread was locked but just wondering if it will be reopened once it's been tidied up?

Yes it will be reopened at some point later in the year, probably when riders are confirmed as signed. Whilst there are lots of rumours it just seems a magnet for non-cycling related talk.

For now we agreed it was best if it was locked due to the content posted.

That's a fair call, hopefully once it's reopened discussing the ethical issues behind this potential team will be allowed.
Cheers for answering my question

Hopefully so. Discussing the human rights implications of the Bahrain team cannot possibly be off-topic because they are an integral part of the media coverage of this team.

When the thread is reopened it will be for news about the riders and team performance in line with the PRR section, not about political and ethical issues. You can make a political thread to join the others in the general forum, however if it goes the way of the Bahrain thread that was locked then it may not last, there were some very inappropriate posts in there.

 

[StryderHells]

Re: Re:

I can understand why The Kingdom of Bahrain Cycling Team thread was locked but just wondering if it will be reopened once it's been tidied up?

Yes it will be reopened at some point later in the year, probably when riders are confirmed as signed. Whilst there are lots of rumours it just seems a magnet for non-cycling related talk.

For now we agreed it was best if it was locked due to the content posted.

That's a fair call, hopefully once it's reopened discussing the ethical issues behind this potential team will be allowed.
Cheers for answering my question

Hopefully so. Discussing the human rights implications of the Bahrain team cannot possibly be off-topic because they are an integral part of the media coverage of this team.

When the thread is reopened it will be for news about the riders and team performance in line with the PRR section, not about political and ethical issues. You can make a political thread to join the others in the general forum, however if it goes the way of the Bahrain thread that was locked then it may not last, there were some very inappropriate posts in there.

Whilst I can understand some of the posts were off topic the discussion about the grave ethical issues surrounding the main instigator behind this teams set-up shouldn't be something that's hidden in another part of the forum, people should be aware of the ethical situation of a team where some of their favourite riders might be signing.
I guess you guys are playing it safe but I think in this case it's the wrong call.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Whilst I can understand some of the posts were off topic the discussion about the grave ethical issues surrounding the main instigator behind this teams set-up shouldn't be something that's hidden in another part of the forum, people should be aware of the ethical situation of a team where some of their favourite riders might be signing.
I guess you guys are playing it safe but I think in this case it's the wrong call.

I do agree that there can be talk about the politics and ethical issues in the forum, but only in the right place, we need to keep the Professional Road Race thread about purely cycling when it reopens. That thread was quickly opening a large can of worms and as you say, as Mods we need to play it safe.

Posters can debate the other matters in the General forum section.

 

[djpbaltimore]

If there are mods active currently, the froome data thread could use a look. It is getting rather personal and pointed. Before it was derailed, it was rather interesting to read and I enjoyed Dr. Swart's insights.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

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If there are mods active currently, the froome data thread could use a look. It is getting rather personal and pointed. Before it was derailed, it was rather interesting to read and I enjoyed Dr. Swart's insights.

I enjoyed it also, but I question if it really is the Dr. and if it is - why would he be on here trying to spin?

 

[sniper]

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If there are mods active currently, the froome data thread could use a look. It is getting rather personal and pointed. Before it was derailed, it was rather interesting to read and I enjoyed Dr. Swart's insights.

agreed.
Let me help you out with some links so that the mods know where to look:
In reply to a rather innocent post by Digger:

I know you hate Sky. I know you think it's all a conspiracy and that's why you need to blast me too. But if you want me to engage on any points you make, then make some valid points and don't just object for the sake of objecting.
viewtopic.php?p=1951159#p1951159

or here in reply to a rather innocent post by myself:
viewtopic.php?p=1951173#p1951173

or here in reply to thehog:

... completely disingenuous. ...
viewtopic.php?p=1951482#p1951482

good post peloton.

Very short temper now, post, not poster.

 

[sniper]

Re: Re:

If there are mods active currently, the froome data thread could use a look. It is getting rather personal and pointed. Before it was derailed, it was rather interesting to read and I enjoyed Dr. Swart's insights.

I enjoyed it also, but I question if it really is the Dr. and if it is - why would he be on here trying to spin?

sshhh.
You're not allowed to say such things in here. Swart is famous.
Didn't you know that?
It's time this clause is included in the forum rules:
"1. If a famous person joins the Clinic, he/she shall be allowed to talk crap and insult your brain.
2. You, as an anonymous wanker...eh, contributor, shall not be allowed to call BS or to call a spade a spade.
3. You shall provide positive input only, so as to ensure that said famous person shall not feel offended and leave the Clinic like a crying choir boy"

 

[peloton]

@sniper Sorry, but that is nonsense. Respect everyone's opinion no matter how much you might disagree with it. Baiting and twisting words is needless and takes the conversation nowhere.

 

[Beech Mtn]

Mods, can the National Championships thread be un-stickied from the PRR? We are way over the top with too many stickies and announcement threads anyway. Thnx

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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I do agree that there can be talk about the politics and ethical issues in the forum, but only in the right place, we need to keep the Professional Road Race thread about purely cycling when it reopens. That thread was quickly opening a large can of worms and as you say, as Mods we need to play it safe.

Posters can debate the other matters in the General forum section.

Are the site owners afraid of being sued by Bahrain?

 

[Praying Mantis]

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So what's the logic behind the race design thread being stickied? It makes absolutely no sense. It could be argued it doesn't even belong in the road race forum. We made a separate forum when people started getting obsessed with the CQ thread but at least that was about real races. The race design thread is completely make-believe and has absolutely nothing to do with actual racing.

I'm a former moderator, I'm not trying to attack you guys, I just honestly would like to understand the logic if there is any. Usually there's a logical reason a thread is a sticky like a need to inform, to preemptively answer a common question or the like. There's really no need for a thread like that to be a sticky. What purpose does it serve? How does it help or improve the forum? The people who participate there can always find it - it's never several pages down.

And in response to a comment in my original thread, I don't have any knowledge of any previous beefs about stickies. I almost never come to this part of the forum as evidenced by my apparently mis-placed post. The fewer stickies, the better is almost always good forum protocol.

I don't think this was ever addressed, I'm wondering the same thing. I know it's a long-running thread and I can understand that it's stickied, but it seems to be in the wrong subforum altogether. Surely it should be in Games and Fantasy Cycling, since it's fantasy cycling? Other threads on race design are in there. I understand tradition and all but it really has nothing to do with PRR, and the fewer stickies the better, especially on small screens. My 2 cents, thanks.

 

[Irondan]

I don't see any reason why it can't be moved but I think Eshnar might want to chime in before we do anything.

 

[Red Rick]

We've discussed race design thread, and decided to leave it be. We think it adds a lot to the forum, and posters put in a lot of effort in their races and write ups, so we think it's better in PRR, rather than in G&FC where it might be kinda forgotten about

 

[Eshnar]

The race design is staying in the PRR. It's not really a game in itself (the race design challenge for example is, and it is indeed in the Games subforum), and it's more of a showcase of what can be done with cycling parcours. Furthermore, the thread was born there and was always there, and considering its success it should not be moved anywhere else.
However, we can argue about whether it should be stuck or not. Personally I'm cool with both options.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

Moderators often say: "we don't care what you say as long as you say it respectfully".

In reality, it looks like posts will be deleted and ban threats will be issued to suppress the inconvenient truth of the benefits of upper-body training for cyclists.

 

[RedheadDane]

Because it's got nothing to do with Andy Schleck...
You're more than welcome to talk about it in the designated thread.

 

[CheckMyPecs]

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Because it's got nothing to do with Andy Schleck...

Discussing Andy Schleck's athletic abilities (including upper body) has nothing to do with Andy Schleck?

 

[RedheadDane]

It doesn't matter what size his arms have, coz he's retired. And when he was still riding, training his arms really wouldn't have helped him.
Besides, this everybody should just have big upper bodies, dammit! spiel is... spreading everywhere, and - quite honestly - getting a big old.