More UCI incompetence

[Race Radio]

UCI set to announce 5 new doping cases that are over a year old. The delay was due, and this is not a joke, to a UCI employee who has been fired.

2 Spanish riders from 2nd tier teams are on the list

 

[eigenvalu2]

why fired?

i assume because of the delay or was it some other reason?

 

[hrotha]

The two Spanish positives are from spring 2010 (one from the Klasika de Primavera, and one from the Vuelta a Asturias), and I assume it'll be the same for the other cases. They're supposed to be two "veteran" riders.

 

[MacRoadie]

The documents were probably in his desk drawer. After they fired him, they couldn't find the key...

 

[Escarabajo]

UCI set to announce 5 new doping cases that are over a year old. The delay was due, and this is not a joke, to a UCI employee who has been fired.

2 Spanish riders from 2nd tier teams are on the list

More goats?

 

[Escarabajo]

It is about time they go after Menchov. How many more scandals can this guy take? Even his bad performances match the scandals.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

UCI set to announce 5 new doping cases that are over a year old. The delay was due, and this is not a joke, to a UCI employee who has been fired.

2 Spanish riders from 2nd tier teams are on the list

There goes the theory that it would be impossible to hide positives as too many would know about it.


On another point, I wonder what you have to do to get fired from the UCI?

 

[ChrisE]

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[Dr. Maserati]

Start acting like you?

As in pointing out poor procedures, looking to catch cheats, refuse to accept donations, be competent at my job......... ya, I guess that would make me unpopular there.

Edit - I see that ChrisE's post was 'edited by Mod' while I was responding as insulting -I don't find it "insulting", lots of other things but not insulting.

 

[Duartista]

The two Spanish positives are from spring 2010 (one from the Klasika de Primavera, and one from the Vuelta a Asturias), and I assume it'll be the same for the other cases. They're supposed to be two "veteran" riders.

The 'veteran' from the Vuelta a Asturias seems fairly easy to guess...

 

[ChrisE]

As in pointing out poor procedures, looking to catch cheats, refuse to accept donations, be competent at my job......... ya, I guess that would make me unpopular there.

Exactly.

You're welcome for the veiled compliment.

 

[hrotha]

The 'veteran' from the Vuelta a Asturias seems fairly easy to guess...

I don't know, I can think of 5 perfect candidates just looking at the top 10.

 

[Race Radio]

I don't know, I can think of 5 perfect candidates just looking at the top 10.

There were riding for 2nd tier teams....if that helps

 

[thehog]

There were riding for 2nd tier teams....if that helps

Sounds like the story was going to break in the press so the UCI had to pull a fast one.

 

[Tank Engine]

There were riding for 2nd tier teams....if that helps

Not a lot, since I would say 9 of the top 10 were from 2nd tier teams. Veteran narrows it down a bit more (I guess that means around 33+). There's still a few to choose from. Although positions 4 and 5 stand out.

 

[Escarabajo]

Let's make it simple, who is it?

Final General Classification
1 Constantino Zaballa (Spa) Loule - Louletano 19:52:51
2 Fabio Duarte (Col) Cafe De Colombia - Colombia Es Pasion 0:00:58
3 Beñat Intxausti Elorriaga (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 0:01:17
4 Ezequiel Mosquera Miguez (Spa) Xacobeo Galicia 0:01:47
5 Santiago Pérez (Spa) Loule - Louletano 0:01:48
6 José Herrada (Spa) Caja Rural 0:02:06 (26 years old)
7 Alex Norberto Cano (Col) Cafe De Colombia - Colombia Es Pasion 0:02:28
8 David Blanco Rodriguez (Spa) Palmeiras Resort - Tavira 0:02:57
9 Angel Vicioso Arcos (Spa) Andalucia - Cajasur 0:03:13
10 Gregory Obando (CRc) Burgos 2016 - Castilla Y Leon 0:03:15 23 years old.

I know the Colombians are not veterans, so that rules them out, but there are still few other possibilities. Jose Herrada is 26 years old and Gregory Obando is 23 years old from Costa Rica anyway.

That leaves: Zaballa, Mosquera, Santiago Perez (EPO/Blood Doping), David Blanco and angel Vicioso (OP).

 

[hrotha]

1, 4, 5, 8 & 9 are the ones I was thinking of. The source of the story is Spanish, so they might consider Xacobeo and Andalucia to be top tier (relatively speaking) - plus if it was Mosquera I doubt more hints wouldn't have dropped.

Here's the original story:
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/deportes/Positivos/pleistoceno/elpepidep/20110930elpepidep_11/Tes

All in all, the folks in the Portuguese teams are the safest bets.

edit: remember however that there's no word about the guy testing positive being in the top 10.

 

[Midnightfright]

When I read the thread title I thought no way can they be less competent that as 1st appears but apparently they can. Outrageous.

 

[bicing]

Any inside scoop on who the other 3 guys are?

 

[Duartista]

1, 4, 5, 8 & 9 are the ones I was thinking of. The source of the story is Spanish, so they might consider Xacobeo and Andalucia to be top tier (relatively speaking) - plus if it was Mosquera I doubt more hints wouldn't have dropped.

Here's the original story:
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/deportes/Positivos/pleistoceno/elpepidep/20110930elpepidep_11/Tes

All in all, the folks in the Portuguese teams are the safest bets.

edit: remember however that there's no word about the guy testing positive being in the top 10.

I was assuming 1, as a) he would definitely have been tested and b) his performance in winning the last stage was very, very impressive. You're right though, there are a few other very plausible candidates.

 

[luckyboy]

Zaballa in Asturias and possibly Bernabeu in Klasika Primavera stand out.

Wonder who the other 3 are.

Weird stuff.

 

[skippy]

What is this thread ? 20 guesses ? Does it matter who the FIVE are ?

Question is , Why was the person sacked by UCI ? Had it been for incompetence then why was All the work done by that person not audited to see what they had been involved with recently ? Would this have found the “ Missing Files “ earlier ? When some people leave a job because they are not doing it well would not the “ Supervisor” have concerns about the “ Quality “ of work done ? Perhaps a few more heads should roll?

UCIless appear to be an organisation that needs help to do even the most fundamental tasks and the sooner the “ IOC “ step in and sorts them out the better chance Cycling has to continue as an Olympic Sport beyond 2012 !

 

[Andynonomous]

Something smells fishy here !

What is this thread ? 20 guesses ? Does it matter who the FIVE are ?

Question is , Why was the person sacked by UCI ? Had it been for incompetence then why was All the work done by that person not audited to see what they had been involved with recently ? Would this have found the “ Missing Files “ earlier ? When some people leave a job because they are not doing it well would not the “ Supervisor” have concerns about the “ Quality “ of work done ? Perhaps a few more heads should roll?

UCIless appear to be an organisation that needs help to do even the most fundamental tasks and the sooner the “ IOC “ step in and sorts them out the better chance Cycling has to continue as an Olympic Sport beyond 2012 !

Agreed.

The fact that there is very little information coming out, leads me to believe that there is something embarassing for the UCI in all of this.

The public story doesn't make sense. There is no way a rogue employee would be able to lose, or supress test results for an extended period of time. Other employees would certainly know that the results came in, and how long it should have taken to process the results.

 

[skippy]

Tourdafarce.blogspot has taken my comment further , so as to avoid being off subject !
UCIless thinks it is a " law unto itself " but i think that like " Emus " they think the storm will eventually pass !

 

[DirtyWorks]

.. the sooner the “ IOC “ step in and sorts them out the better chance Cycling has to continue as an Olympic Sport beyond 2012 !

Haha! Look at it this way. It appears running a corrupt federation is what's required to get a job at the IOC. Why do you think guys like Hein have a job at the IOC? As dirty as the UCI is, the IOC is as bad, if not worse in terms of blatant and obvious corruption.