Most Suspicious Performance Of The Last 5 Years

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Not even close

Domoulin has ridden 7 GTs before this Giro and only finished 3. Not a great record or a showing of potential for GTs.

With the Vuelta in mind, this is not even close.

Seeing Dumoulin literally crashed out in 2 of those GT's and got ill in the other 2, the DNF's don't tell us something.
The fact that he was already 41th, without riding for GC, as 23(could be 22, dont remember) year old does. And obv vuelta 2015

 

[Netserk]

Erik Zabel was 40th in his last Tour at the age of 38, obviously not riding for GC. It doesn't really mean much.

 

[kingjr]

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Erik Zabel was 40th in his last Tour at the age of 38, obviously not riding for GC. It doesn't really mean much.

Came in before Nibali on L'Alpe d'Huez

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

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Erik Zabel was 40th in his last Tour at the age of 38, obviously not riding for GC. It doesn't really mean much.

Came in before Nibali on L'Alpe d'Huez

Came in before Nibali and Hesjedal; only 9 places down on another future multiple GT winner. Who would've guessed back then, with Andy Schleck finishing 3rd and Contador winning 2 GTs that season.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I'm just saying, Dumoulin was never a bad climber. He was instantly good on hills (because he lives in the region were Amstel gold is held..), but just wasn't used to the longer efforts on long climbs. It took some time to learn to pace himself on longer climbs, and he found it especially hard when he was forced to follow somebody else's pace. (slower or faster).

 

[ppanther92]

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I'm just saying, Dumoulin was never a bad climber. He was instantly good on hills (because he lives in the region were Amstel gold is held..), but just wasn't used to the longer efforts on long climbs. It took some time to learn to pace himself on longer climbs, and he found it especially hard when he was forced to follow somebody else's pace. (slower or faster).

Fully agree. Looking at his amateur results it was alwaysclear he could climb. Iam sure he does what it takes to win, but compared to Wiggins, for example, his performance doesn't really qualify for "most suspicous performance of the last 5 years".

 

[hazaran]

I humbly submit Fuglsang and Aru dropping everyone on a hellish >10% climb while having shown exactly nothing, zero all year.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

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I humbly submit Fuglsang and Aru dropping everyone on a hellish >10% climb while having shown exactly nothing, zero all year.

And unlike Aru, Fuglsang has never shown this climbing level before.

I half expected Fuglsang to go full-*** this year, back when he was supposed to be Astana's only GC guy for the Tour. (With Lopez a maybe, not likely to be in decent enough shape, if selected).

 

[GuyIncognito]

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I humbly submit Fuglsang and Aru dropping everyone on a hellish >10% climb while having shown exactly nothing, zero all year.

And unlike Aru, Fuglsang has never shown this climbing level before.

Yes he has. At this very race he's even showed better climbing. When he first showed up.
Then he spent years being mediocre and now he's back at that level for whatever reason.

 

[86TDFWinner]

Nibali(who's since fallen off the face of the earth since his fluke TDF win)

 

[Baldinger]

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I humbly submit Fuglsang and Aru dropping everyone on a hellish >10% climb while having shown exactly nothing, zero all year.

Every victory in cycling should be considred as suspicious really, but Fuglsang doesn't belong up there with the nuclear Froome on Mont Ventoux and - let's say - Gilbert in the cobbled classics.

Since his first year as a pro, Fuglsang did some good climbing, especially in Dauphine, as far I remember. In the Tour, he will eventually fade, like he always do.

 

[DanielSong39]

Let's see if Richie Porte can get to the top of the list with his Tour de France performance.

Keeping my fingers crossed...

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

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I humbly submit Fuglsang and Aru dropping everyone on a hellish >10% climb while having shown exactly nothing, zero all year.

And unlike Aru, Fuglsang has never shown this climbing level before.

Yes he has. At this very race he's even showed better climbing. When he first showed up.

If you're referring to the 2009 Dauphine, nah. He's clearly climbing at a higher level now. So far, anyway.

 

[Irondan]

Nibali(who's since fallen off the face of the earth since his fluke TDF win)

If winning the Giro d' Italia equates to "falling off the face of the earth" then poor Tom Dumoulin has nothing to look forward to for the rest of his career, along with Nibali..

 

[DanielSong39]

Nibali(who's since fallen off the face of the earth since his fluke TDF win)

You misspelled Wiggins.

 

[Singer01]

Nibali(who's since fallen off the face of the earth since his fluke TDF win)

You misspelled Wiggins.

Yep, nobody in cycling would like to have WCTT champion, hour record and olympic gold medal on their palmares.

 

[fmk_RoI]

A Tweet from a journalist with the Comic

Chris Marshall-Bell‏
@cmbell310

I never thought I'd see the day Ben Swift - a sprinter - came second on Alpe d'Huez. Bit tougher than @monsalhillclimb.

5:54 pm - 10 Jun 2017

 

[ppanther92]

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A Tweet from a journalist with the Comic

Chris Marshall-Bell‏
@cmbell310

I never thought I'd see the day Ben Swift - a sprinter - came second on Alpe d'Huez. Bit tougher than @monsalhillclimb.

5:54 pm - 10 Jun 2017

Swift was never a pure sprinter and it was from a break. Wouldn't count that as too extraordinary.

Regarding Fuglsang, he finished 4th, 6th and 10th at Dauphine the years before and 3rd and 4th when riding Suisse. I have no doubt he will fade comes July and finish in his usual Top 20 range (lower end of Top 10 if all is going perfect for him).

 

[portugal11]

Fulgsang at dauphine...

 

[jilbiker]

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Fulgsang at dauphine...

A lot of pressure from Vino? yes, where did fulsang come from? he looked strong, even at the end of race, he remined me of Landa at Astana after the Giro races, it was like nothing

 

[DanielSong39]

If Fuglsang wins the Tour the forum would blow up for sure. It would surpass Wiggins for sure and maybe even Froome.

 

[Irondan]

One word: Fuglesang...

Okay, maybe I have more to say than one word. If any performance over the past five years fit the OP perfectly it was Fuglesang and this years Dauphine. He looks like the best climber in the world at the moment, an attribute that has never ever been something associated with the Birdsong.

Astana strikes again, making a mockery of anti-doping efforts by putting a perennial also-ran into the Tour de France contender conversation.

 

[DanielSong39]

Fuglsang hasn't won yet though. So far he's Iban Mayo 2.0 for all we know. If he smashes the Tour, that's a different story.

Aru, not even close since he's a GT winner and the hype machine has been persistent since at least 2014.

 

[DanielSong39]

Also Talansky won the 2014 Dauphine and he didn't even register on the radar. Did nothing in the Tour that year and has only recently rounded back into decent form. Fuglsang was the shocker of the Dauphine but let's hold our horses for the time being.

 

[DFA123]

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Also Talansky won the 2014 Dauphine and he didn't even register on the radar. Did nothing in the Tour that year and has only recently rounded back into decent form. Fuglsang was the shocker of the Dauphine but let's hold our horses for the time being.

To be fair, Talansky only won because Contador was obsessed only with Froome and let him miles up the road before realising Froome wasn't bluffing. Fuglsang outclimbed everyone with ease.