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Just discovered postmodern jukebox, worth a try

They got their own channel on youtube for those who want to listen
 
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Alongside with the Go-betweens my favourite Aussie band (Nick Cave is very much is own thing)

The Triffids - Calenture

One of my favourite albuns of my collection, (and I got plenty stuff)
 
Yay! The Go-Betweens. Love them.

I've never really grown that fond of The Triffids, I don't know why. I have Calenture (and Born Sandy Devotional and In the Pines), so I'll probably give 'em a spin later.

At the moment, though, I'm listening to Catherine Wheel.
Crank
 
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what do guys think about the plagiarism accusation against Pharell?
I think it goes a tadbit too far. "Inspired by", yes, sure, but plagiarism?
The rhythm is very similar to marvin gay's song, but other than that...not really...
any other views?
 
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sniper said:
what do guys think about the plagiarism accusation against Pharell?
I think it goes a tadbit too far. "Inspired by", yes, sure, but plagiarism?
The rhythm is very similar to marvin gay's song, but other than that...not really...
any other views?
Could we have some links to the music itself so we could compare fairly, pretty please?
 
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Tricycle Rider said:
sniper said:
what do guys think about the plagiarism accusation against Pharell?
I think it goes a tadbit too far. "Inspired by", yes, sure, but plagiarism?
The rhythm is very similar to marvin gay's song, but other than that...not really...
any other views?
Could we have some links to the music itself so we could compare fairly, pretty please?

here the two are compared.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziz9HW2ZmmY

so it's Thickey/Pharrell's "Blurred lines" vs. Gaye's "Got to give it up"

Gaye family just won the case. Thickey/Pharrell have to pay up some 7.000.000 in damages and I think the song can no longer be reproduced without Gaye family's permission.

Gaye family now coming up with more plagiarism accusations against Thickey:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/blurred-lines-lawsuit-marvin-gaye-651427

And apparently Pharrell's "Happy" is also very similar to a Gaye song.

Here's a commentary piece (with which I agree) on why the Blurred Lines verdict should be thrown out:
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/why-the-blurred-lines-copyright-verdict-should-be-thrown-out
 
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sniper said:
Tricycle Rider said:
sniper said:
what do guys think about the plagiarism accusation against Pharell?
I think it goes a tadbit too far. "Inspired by", yes, sure, but plagiarism?
The rhythm is very similar to marvin gay's song, but other than that...not really...
any other views?
Could we have some links to the music itself so we could compare fairly, pretty please?

here the two are compared.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziz9HW2ZmmY

so it's Thickey/Pharrell's "Blurred lines" vs. Gaye's "Got to give it up"

Gaye family just won the case. Thickey/Pharrell have to pay up some 7.000.000 in damages and I think the song can no longer be reproduced without Gaye family's permission.

Gaye family now coming up with more plagiarism accusations against Thickey:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/blurred-lines-lawsuit-marvin-gaye-651427

And apparently Pharrell's "Happy" is also very similar to a Gaye song.

Here's a commentary piece (with which I agree) on why the Blurred Lines verdict should be thrown out:
http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/why-the-blurred-lines-copyright-verdict-should-be-thrown-out
Society really has run all out of newly artistic ideas, hasn't it? I mean, what else is there that hasn't been done before? (We're talking movies, music, fashion...)

Anyhoo, I'd call that Thickey/Pharrell stuff 'heavy borrowing'. But outright plagiarism - nah.


As an aside - Please, show me something that could be done to the design of a bicycle that hasn't been done before. I mean, I'm still trying to come up with some original stuff here, but even the almighty bicycle has its limitations.
 
Some that helped me go through this last weeks of intence studying.

Genesis - Selling England by the Pound (that reef)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rn9tzirks4
Temples - Sun Structures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dxRwTueif0
King Crimson - I Talk To The Wind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgKz5pgARcg
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVvoQIdD80U
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu0kGvKujCg
Ray Lynch - The Oh Of Pleasure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SinL1sRrV1Q
 
hey BigMac is slowly but surely getting to one of my fave genre: prog rock!
A few years ago i bought Genesis' album "A Trick of the Tail" as LP/vinyl at a secondhand market. First album with Phil Collins and I found it really good. It was sill very prog.

On King Crimson's first album, I found Epitaph a masterpiece but I also like I Talk to the Wind very much. But I prefer Emerson Lake & palmer to King Crimson, actually. Though Greg Lake was a band member of both (even simultaneously). "Lucky Man" is such a beautiful melody: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89g1P_J40JA
Oh yeah the Quebeckers from Godspeed You! Black Emperor. Impressive! I remember listening to Providence a few years ago.

Oh I forgot, just one more thing. I thought I would get back to this thread to share the interview of "self-hating" Israeli (even Israeli renegate lol) saxophonist Gilad Atzmon for Égalité & Réconciliation, talking about how he got to jazz music and what kind of music was played during his Israeli youth. Kind of interesting.
http://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Gilad-Atzmon-Entretien-melomane-31691.html

Realised he is featured on Pink Floyd's new album: http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/it-is-now-official-i-am-featured-on-pink-floyds-new-album.html
 
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sniper said:
what do guys think about the plagiarism accusation against Pharell?
I think it goes a tadbit too far. "Inspired by", yes, sure, but plagiarism?
The rhythm is very similar to marvin gay's song, but other than that...not really...
any other views?

I didn't realize plagarism wasn't allowed in the modern music industry. Literally 1 out of every 2 moderately successful rap tracks from the last 2 decades is a direct rip off of a previously successful hit. Often the song isn't even changed, the rapper just adds some boasts, sexist comments and vulgarisms in between the chorus and collects millions for supposedly making the song. Examples include Stevie Wonder's hit "passtime paradise" being changed to "Gangsta's paradise", people actually thinking it was the Fugees who sang "killing me softly", blackeyedpees shamelessly selling Mas Que Nada as their own, (they had clearly exhausted all their intellectual abilities with "shut up") or even in France some barely literate idiot called Yannick shouting "aha aha" over the chorus of a 1960's song being the most popular hit in the country's history.

Not that it doesn't happen in other genres, but the comparative lack of musical ability needed for rap means that its exceptionally easy for any rapper with enough money to pay the royalties to just take any previously succesful hit, throw some quickly written rap about meeting girls in a club over it (thereby supposedly altering the song), and have a world hit 10 minutes later.
 
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Echoes said:
hey BigMac is slowly but surely getting to one of my fave genre: prog rock!
A few years ago i bought Genesis' album "A Trick of the Tail" as LP/vinyl at a secondhand market. First album with Phil Collins and I found it really good. It was sill very prog.

On King Crimson's first album, I found Epitaph a masterpiece but I also like I Talk to the Wind very much. But I prefer Emerson Lake & palmer to King Crimson, actually. Though Greg Lake was a band member of both (even simultaneously). "Lucky Man" is such a beautiful melody: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89g1P_J40JA
Oh yeah the Quebeckers from Godspeed You! Black Emperor. Impressive! I remember listening to Providence a few years ago.

Oh I forgot, just one more thing. I thought I would get back to this thread to share the interview of "self-hating" Israeli (even Israeli renegate lol) saxophonist Gilad Atzmon for Égalité & Réconciliation, talking about how he got to jazz music and what kind of music was played during his Israeli youth. Kind of interesting.
http://www.egaliteetreconciliation.fr/Gilad-Atzmon-Entretien-melomane-31691.html

Realised he is featured on Pink Floyd's new album: http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/it-is-now-official-i-am-featured-on-pink-floyds-new-album.html

Wondered if you would like it. I had never heard Genesis before. I had listened and enojoyed some prog rock but for some reason never felt like digging deep into the genre, and stil haven't to be honest. Know it very superficially through the likes of Pink Floyd and Yes, and now Genesis and KC.

I'm listening to Epitaph as I'm writing this paragraph, and so great it is. :) No, I just switched to Emerson, Lake & Palmer - listening to Trilogy album. Sounds sweet. Lucky Man follows. Thanks a lot for that!
 
Oh sure I like it, mate. The love of Pink Floyd's music was handed over to me by my father. He's always been mad about it. If you look at their album Meddle, you'll see a 23' track at the end that is an inspiration for some to create usernames on some cycling forums, lol. ;-)

Prog rock is really the richest of all rock genre. Tunes with structures, with a beginning, a middle and an end. As opposed to the cyclical structure of a common pop song: verse & chorus. More or less an equivalent to classical symphonies. The ELP's were champions in adapting classical pieces to rock. If you heard Trilogy, there's Bach's Fugue on it. My favourite song on that album is "From the Beginning" though.

Some argue that Yes was the ultimate prog rock band but I think they sometimes really went off the line. What I'd save from them is "The Gates of Delirium". Long track too and especially the final part "Soon oh Soon" sounds beautiful to me. That's when the guitarist Steve Howe uses a pedal steel guitar. Traditional country music instrument but can also be used by British rock band.

Oh and since you are an Iberian, I'd really recommend you the Spanish prog band: Triana! "En El Lago" for example. The so-called Andalusian rock. :) The great thing about prog rock is that each Euro country had its own specific movement: krautrock in Germany and on the Italian scene prog rock was very popular.

Cheers, mate.

PS: BigMac, if you haven't yet, please read at least the 2nd PM I sent you this year. I hope I'm not annoying you. Don't answer if you don't feel like though and I'm aware that school is way more important, but just read when you have time.
 
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I'm listening to Natalie Portman's metal biscuit confusion. It's sort of jazz meets a giant custard cream in a dark ally of thrash wholemeal. The vastness of space in this concept mister works will remind some of you of Jimi Hendrix and his journey to the centre of the earth EP recorded in the snowy tundra of Asda.
Natalie has very limited musical ability and this only adds to a feeling of sheer depression and self harm in a light hearted way . A truly epic sound noise media trumpet
 
I'm listening to Neil Young's amazing Ambulance Blues because "On the Beach" is the greatest album ever recorded for when you're on a downer. It narrowly tops Lou Reed's "Berlin" and Joy Division's "Closer" for that title, though I am also (obviously) a huge Red House Painters fan (everybody should be a huge Red House Painters fan).

Echoes/BigMac, either of you fans of Van der Graaf Generator? They're my favourite of the prog bands. "Pawn Hearts" is just completely insane but genius. "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" was one of those "Eureka!" moments for me in discovering music.