The night game was entertaining too!
The 14 point swing of BAL not getting 7 and CIN getting 7 was massive obviously. I think that I remember seeing that one time many years ago too, but either way its a crazy turn.
The 14 point swing of BAL not getting 7 and CIN getting 7 was massive obviously. I think that I remember seeing that one time many years ago too, but either way its a crazy turn.
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I think both the Bengals and Bills actually benefitted from being tested, and from not playing great, but sucking it up and winning. The game between them next week should really be something. The team with the most patience, and least mistakes, are most likely to win.
Can Jacksonville go into KC and beat them? They lost to KC back in November 27-17, and then to Detroit, a team with a similar offense, 40-14 on Dec. 4th. Beating Mahomes and KC in Arrowhead seems too much to overcome. But Jax has been on a bit of a roll.
I said often during the season I thought the Vikings were smoke and mirrors, a few too many lucky bounces. But they were flat out outplayed by the Giants more than I thought. But I have to say, I don't see the Giants going into either Philadelphia or SF and coming out with a win. Same with the winner of Monday's game. I'd be shocked if the NFC championship isn't SF vs. Philadelphia.
IF Jamal Adams can stay healthy, he will be a huge boost to the Seattle D. The Seahawks gave up too much to get him, but got way more back in return on the Wilson trade. Adams is still fairly young. I notice on social media people trying to get Jodi Allen to spend money to put grass into the stadium in Seattle. She has the money (or Paul's money) without question.
Can Jacksonville go into KC and beat them? They lost to KC back in November 27-17, and then to Detroit, a team with a similar offense, 40-14 on Dec. 4th. Beating Mahomes and KC in Arrowhead seems too much to overcome. But Jax has been on a bit of a roll.
I said often during the season I thought the Vikings were smoke and mirrors, a few too many lucky bounces. But they were flat out outplayed by the Giants more than I thought. But I have to say, I don't see the Giants going into either Philadelphia or SF and coming out with a win. Same with the winner of Monday's game. I'd be shocked if the NFC championship isn't SF vs. Philadelphia.
IF Jamal Adams can stay healthy, he will be a huge boost to the Seattle D. The Seahawks gave up too much to get him, but got way more back in return on the Wilson trade. Adams is still fairly young. I notice on social media people trying to get Jodi Allen to spend money to put grass into the stadium in Seattle. She has the money (or Paul's money) without question.
Bills got a magic start but Miami fought back well Odd game, Great plays mixed in quite a lot of mediocre play. The Miami QB tried hard but with Tua I think they probably would have won as the back up missed a lot. Allen's performance was hit and miss which isn't uncommon for him, often a mix of the great with the pedestrian especially the turnovers. Amazing to see Beasley back and still doing it That delay of game penalty on Miami with two and a half minutes to go was costly.
Vikings defense struggled to stop the running of Barkley and Jones. No one much seemed surprised to see the Vikings go out early. Pretty entertaining game. Another ridiculous roughing the passer call late in the game against the Giants.
Ravens and Huntley pushed the Bengals all the way. A few big late defensive plays and the goal line fumble got the Bengals home. Another entertaining game.
Another early exit for the Cowboys probably would not end well for McCarthy................
Vikings defense struggled to stop the running of Barkley and Jones. No one much seemed surprised to see the Vikings go out early. Pretty entertaining game. Another ridiculous roughing the passer call late in the game against the Giants.
Ravens and Huntley pushed the Bengals all the way. A few big late defensive plays and the goal line fumble got the Bengals home. Another entertaining game.
Another early exit for the Cowboys probably would not end well for McCarthy................
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Not really sure where the Seahawks go with Jamal Adams even if he ever gets healthy enough to contribute. His game was all about physicality and now (possibly as a result) his body is falling apart. Ryan Neal his replacement has turned out to be one of the best players on that defense. His contract means there would be a lot of dead money on the table if they cut him this offseason and who is going to trade for him with the shoulder issues?
They play him as much as they can. All of the high revving motor outside rushers live injury to injury.
Herbert definitely needs to work on when to use arm angles.
I will complain about poor officiating as much as anyone, but one thing that I liked about several games this weekend was that the zebras huddled (maybe with help from NY), and got the correct call without wasting time.
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No worries, they weren't able to capitalize. If anyone wants to criticize Cousins for being a game manager, not clutch, here's your shot. He took more risky throws this season than any other year in his career, but in the end... Amusing article calling him "Kirkland" the Costco brand of QB.
See what I wrote about the Chargers. If Jerry Jones thinks he can out duel and out bid the Walton-Penner group, then he'll fire him to try to get Sean. But if they fire Mike, and Sean doesn't bite. Then what are they going to do?
As to Payton, I agree what one of you said. Never underestimate what someone will do for a boatload of cash. Sean is most likely to follow the money. As much of a turd Denver is now, he could re-build it to whatever he likes, with almost limitless financial concern.
Next, see Nomad's post on how QBs matter more than coaches (I'll argue players, period, but QB is the most important player). If the Cowboys lose this game, it will likely be two reasons: Dak forces the ball too much, tries to as I say, play "hero ball". And the Cowboys get overconfident. Recall, Cooper Rush numbers were better than Dak's.
This isn't to imply if the Cowboys lose they should cut Dak, and go with Cooper. Just that if the lose, firing McCarthy and giving up draft picks to get Payton to be the coach may not change much. The had a very good season, so far. McCarthy has done quite well as a coach there.
I noticed that too! Agree!
If he is even 97% this is huge! If you scroll back you'll find my assertion that he is a big reason that the O isn't as good. He is a nasty C who rules the middle, and make the rest of the line better. Just him being back should mentally lift the rest of the line and TB12. If his knee is 97%, the other advantage is that he is fresh.
One of the talking heads uttered the words 'dual threat' to describe Jones. I remember when that phrase got hot with Vick, but IMO Tark, Staubach, Steve Young, Cunningham are the QBs who ushered that into modern NFL. Obviously I'm forgetting several like Newton, Kaepernick, Grojoune... I prefer 'running QB' (like I used above) because all NFL QBs can throw. The big difference is: are they run first (Jackson, Fields...). Ds have to dedicate a safety or LB to watch/spy on some QBs because of their running ability, which might be as big of advantage as their actual running ability because that takes that guy out of the rush or out of coverage. IMO, Allen and Jones get more yards because it doesn't seem like teams treat them like running QBs (disclaimer, I didn't watch much of Jones until yesterday)(I think that the two of them were pretty close in yards over the season).
Hurts is a running QB, but even though he loves to run, it doesn't seem like his first reaction (excluding designed runs of course), especially this year.
Hurts is a running QB, but even though he loves to run, it doesn't seem like his first reaction (excluding designed runs of course), especially this year.
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When healthy, he's as good as safety as any in football. He can cover, tackle, blitz (better than any safety) and read defenses very keenly. The play where he gets hurt really shows his skill. He looks like a second "Mike" linebacker as the play develops. A hunter, a predator, with keen instincts.
The issue with his injury is if you watch it, it was a total turf injury. While twisting around, his left foot grabbed too much plastic. Very little contact, no hit, nothing rough like that. Very little contact even. There was small talk after it happened from some Seahawk fans to get the Washington State authority, Jody Allen, and/or Lumen to pay the money to put grass in Lumen Stadium. That died down pretty quick, but if I were a Seahawk fan, this is something I'd bring up every week there. Why, with all of Allen's money, does Seattle play on turf?
Adams at least has the entire off-season to heal. But after that, I don't see him really changing his style of play. He's just going to go for it, and as jmdirt said, guys like him live injury to injury. Playing on grass would help, but only a little bit. He's not a Richard Sherman type cover guy.
Initial injury against Denver when it happened: Link Here.
Follow up, with key end zone shot ,showing his instincts. Link here.
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I agree about turf, really no excuse for any NFL team not to be playing on grass now and should be mandated by the NFL if they are really so safety-conscious
I'd be much more concerned injury-wise about the shoulder that ended both previous seasons than his latest injury and I think that's what would scare teams off
Since the trade, even when he's played he's looked a long way from being anything like what they gave up for him - not his fault of course, he didn't trade those picks away or offer the huge contract soon after
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Are we in store for another second half comeback/resurgence this weekend? Hard to say down 18-0 only looking good on 2 defensive drives and 1 offensive one. Cowboys kicker isn’t helping them at all. Cowboys getting pressure with 3-4 defenders while Bucs can’t get any without blitzing.
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And Bucs run ended like it did all year. Falling short on all fronts before digging themselves out or trying too to late. If Brady returns, I don’t see it as a Buc at all. I think he can still play at a high level, just wasn’t there year and the team was off on all levels.
Cowboys moving on, first win in a long time and have to play their long standing rival. If Cowboys play like this it should be a fun and close game.
Cowboys moving on, first win in a long time and have to play their long standing rival. If Cowboys play like this it should be a fun and close game.
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Brady needs to retire. Period. He's not going to get better. He's not going to go "back" to how he was in 2014, or 2020 for that matter. The regression is starting to show. It's over. Quit now.
If he wants to keep playing, some team will sign him for sure. There's going to be several options next year, and he will increase ticket sales, swag, and put people in seats, so someone will sign and pay him. If the Raiders pay him $40m, just because he played with JMD, when the team badly needs help on defense, it would be a travesty. I think Tom would want to play with a more serious contender though. But there's no "Denver" team out there for him to go to with a stout defense, and decent offense, where he can retire like Peyton did. He should have retired two years ago if he wanted that.
Here are the teams I see needing a QB next year:
Here's who else will be available to sign, and likely play in 2023. Bryce Young, CJ Stoud, and Will Levis are all likely to be drafted in the top 10. Even though I'm not sure any of them will make an immediate big impact, they'll be expected to, and start, if not right away, as soon as Pickett did. In FA we'll have Jimmy Garappolo, Baker Mayfield, Derek Carr. Maybe Lamar Jackson, maybe Daniel Jones, also Jamis Winston, Sam Darnold, Andy Dalton. Heck, toss in Tyler Huntley, Cooper Rush, Teddy Bridgewater, Gardner Minshew, I'm believing the rumors Aaron Rodgers will play for Green Bay, or retire. I'm all but certain both Daniel Jones and Geno will either be franchised, or just sign. Now, before you say "Brady is better than all those guys!!!" Yes, he's better than several. However, remind yourself this will be Tom Brady 2023, not Tom Brady 2011, or 2017, or 2020 even. And he'll be more expensive than any of them.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but had the Seahawks just signed Geno to a 5 year $100m deal early in the season, he likely would have agreed to it. Now, his market value is about $35m, for 2023.
If he wants to keep playing, some team will sign him for sure. There's going to be several options next year, and he will increase ticket sales, swag, and put people in seats, so someone will sign and pay him. If the Raiders pay him $40m, just because he played with JMD, when the team badly needs help on defense, it would be a travesty. I think Tom would want to play with a more serious contender though. But there's no "Denver" team out there for him to go to with a stout defense, and decent offense, where he can retire like Peyton did. He should have retired two years ago if he wanted that.
Here are the teams I see needing a QB next year:
- Washington - Wentz is done. Henike is a backup. Organization a total mess. Team may sell in off-season.
- New Orleans - Winston is done there. Could be better with a top QB, but no cap room until 2024 or later.
- Atlanta - May need a rebuild.
- Indianapolis - See Atlanta.
- NY Jets - May stick with Zach Wilson, or White. Not both. Help needed elsewhere on offense. Organization a mess.
- Carolina - Just started a re-build. Over the cap already. A lot of dead money.
- Tennessee - Need help more than just QB. Not much cap room.
- Las Vegas - Need a QB, have cap room, but badly need to rebuild their defense, everyone not named Maxx. OL also lacks depth.
- Arizona - Maybe? I'm assuming Murray is out for much of 2023. Another mess of an organization.
Here's who else will be available to sign, and likely play in 2023. Bryce Young, CJ Stoud, and Will Levis are all likely to be drafted in the top 10. Even though I'm not sure any of them will make an immediate big impact, they'll be expected to, and start, if not right away, as soon as Pickett did. In FA we'll have Jimmy Garappolo, Baker Mayfield, Derek Carr. Maybe Lamar Jackson, maybe Daniel Jones, also Jamis Winston, Sam Darnold, Andy Dalton. Heck, toss in Tyler Huntley, Cooper Rush, Teddy Bridgewater, Gardner Minshew, I'm believing the rumors Aaron Rodgers will play for Green Bay, or retire. I'm all but certain both Daniel Jones and Geno will either be franchised, or just sign. Now, before you say "Brady is better than all those guys!!!" Yes, he's better than several. However, remind yourself this will be Tom Brady 2023, not Tom Brady 2011, or 2017, or 2020 even. And he'll be more expensive than any of them.
Hindsight is always 20/20, but had the Seahawks just signed Geno to a 5 year $100m deal early in the season, he likely would have agreed to it. Now, his market value is about $35m, for 2023.
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He’s definitely regressed but I don’t think it’s fair to say he’s falling off a cliff when everything about the team was bad, period. Nor do I think he’s going to retire. From coaching decisions and play calls, oline misses and penalties, lack of a run game whatsoever, receivers being injuries or dropping balls, and Brady’s own miscues and bad throws, on top of all the drama in his personal life. A lot of the games TB offense started coming back together in the fourth. Now for what team, I have no idea. Niners, Raiders, and Dolphins are interested. Gronk has said he would come back with Brady if he goes to another team and already tried this year but didn’t get to an agreement. I doubt Niners will go with him. If he’s in either of those three offense, I bet they look like Tampa the first two years. The only quarterbacks I could see doing well in TB while finishing with a ten win season with everything going on would be Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, and Hurst. And that’s because of their ability to run which would have opened up more of the passing and run game. It’s hard to play offense when your offense is one dimensional, get set behind running the ball, and on top of that have poor oline play.
Yes but he's missing many throws he would normally make and often its not even close. Would hate to see him get a serious injury chasing another SB this late in his career but Brady has always been driven so another season wouldn't really surprise me and it seems like he's resisting the home dad, TV footballer roles as long as possible..........to my eyes his reactions and movements do seem slower than before.
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Speaking of injury, I hope Russell Gage is okay!! It did not look good at all.
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I don't think he's falling off a cliff. Just regressing, and should retire before it's obvious. Their OL wasn't that bad, and they had Jensen back. But Tom is not mobile, at all. I'd say it's at least 60/40 he keeps playing, for the reasons you said.
Mike McDaniel has said Tua is his QB. But he doesn't own the team. A fickle, impatient guy does.
Vegas? The theory behind the black veil is that they are now in a place to make smart moves, not reactionary ones, and plan for long-term, steady success. Dave Ziegler and Mark Davis have both said this. And one supposed reason Mark hired Sarah Morgan as president is her background in contract law, to help keep him from wasting money on bad calls. But only a fool would underestimate Mark Davis making an emotional decision and pushing the team to sign Tom, especially if Josh McDaniels says he believes in him still. This happens in sports all the time. Just look at Jimmy Haslem and Cleveland. Many more teams.
Why in the world SF would take him would be beyond comprehension. They have Purdy, who has shown every week he's legit, and was grossly underdrafted (there are a few scouts, and ex-scouts out there on record singing Purdy's praises pre-draft). They also have Lance. Who may be raw, but there is real potential there. Both are under rookie contracts. There's also one draft expert person on YouTube back in training camp saying Brock Purdy would push Lance for the starting job and the 49ers were lucky to have both. No one paid attention...until Brock started playing. Then again, maybe the York family really wants Tom in SF, especially if they don't get to the SB, or Purdy falters at all and becomes a focus of a loss. See my thoughts on Mark Davis above.
I honestly wonder if Lamar Jackson can get through an entire season. I hope he can, but I'm not so sure.
Sounds like Lamar is done at the Ravens. Don't see Geno or Goff going anywhere. Mariota is done at the Falcons. Baker will be too expensive for the Rams to keep as a back up. Same with Jimmy who will get a starters job anyway like Carr. Panthers probably keep Darnold for the moment. Saints definitely need a better QB even though Dalton had an okay season. But they need a better offense in general.. Titans looks like a rebuild as do the Cardinals and Atlanta. Jets need a QB and more weapons on offense. Las Vegas will keep Stidham as the back up but need a more consistent QB among a few other pieces. Miami should draft a good young RB as Mostert goes down a lot. Jeff Wilson is solid. Tua's future is ? jimmy G would be the obvious replacement after playing with McDaniels for so long if Tua calls it a day. Think Brady should retire. Cousins contract is up in 12 months. i doubt that the Vikings let him go even withe the lack of playoff wins. But its probably in their long term interest to try for rookie lower down the draft as well.
49ers passed on Brady twice. Think that ship has long sailed. If it wasn't going to happen after the 2019 SB loss it was never going to happen........I don't think he's falling off a cliff. Just regressing, and should retire before it's obvious. Their OL wasn't that bad, and they had Jensen back. But Tom is not mobile, at all. I'd say it's at least 60/40 he keeps playing, for the reasons you said.
Mike McDaniel has said Tua is his QB. But he doesn't own the team. A fickle, impatient guy does.
Vegas? The theory behind the black veil is that they are now in a place to make smart moves, not reactionary ones, and plan for long-term, steady success. Dave Ziegler and Mark Davis have both said this. And one supposed reason Mark hired Sarah Morgan as president is her background in contract law, to help keep him from wasting money on bad calls. But only a fool would underestimate Mark Davis making an emotional decision and pushing the team to sign Tom, especially if Josh McDaniels says he believes in him still. This happens in sports all the time. Just look at Jimmy Haslem and Cleveland. Many more teams.
Why in the world SF would take him would be beyond comprehension. They have Purdy, who has shown every week he's legit, and was grossly underdrafted (there are a few scouts, and ex-scouts out there on record singing Purdy's praises pre-draft). They also have Lance. Who may be raw, but there is real potential there. Both are under rookie contracts. There's also one draft expert person on YouTube back in training camp saying Brock Purdy would push Lance for the starting job and the 49ers were lucky to have both. No one paid attention...until Brock started playing. Then again, maybe the York family really wants Tom in SF, especially if they don't get to the SB, or Purdy falters at all and becomes a focus of a loss. See my thoughts on Mark Davis above.
I honestly wonder if Lamar Jackson can get through an entire season. I hope he can, but I'm not so sure.
Thought the Cowboys would win. The Buccs were never going to suddenly switch gears. Didn't see any signs of that leading up to the playoffs. This game was similar to the 49ers blowout of the Buccs with the game pretty much over early. Thought the Buccs were the pretenders going into the playoffs and they were good for one win at the most. The Vikings were the other team who no one seemed to take seriously even with the good win record. Not many fans seem to trust Cousins in the playoffs and the Giants coach was superior on the day. Vikings defense has also dropped off since Zimmer left.
Another pedestrian Buccs performance and the dullest game of the playoffs so far. Even Brady's staunchest st fans would have to question a return next season it seems. Yes their offense was mediocre all season and Brady often was as well. Simply not even close to the team that won the SB a few seasons ago. Dak had a better game and the Cowboys did just about everything better except the kicking. Not sure what happened there, lots of eyes were rolling on the sidelines after the second miss, but four ! McCarthy seemed a little stunned !
Another pedestrian Buccs performance and the dullest game of the playoffs so far. Even Brady's staunchest st fans would have to question a return next season it seems. Yes their offense was mediocre all season and Brady often was as well. Simply not even close to the team that won the SB a few seasons ago. Dak had a better game and the Cowboys did just about everything better except the kicking. Not sure what happened there, lots of eyes were rolling on the sidelines after the second miss, but four ! McCarthy seemed a little stunned !
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There oline all year has been letting up pressure from 3 to 4 rushers, plus the penalties, and the bad run game. That didn’t change last night. I’d say we’re all more mobile then Brady is
. Now of course Brady being immobile only makes the oline look worse and they had to go for a lot more short and screen passes to make up for the oline and run game. We underrate how good Gronk was at blocking sometimes. Like I said, I don’t see the Niners and think the multiple stories that came out was crazy just for listing the Niners. Like @movingtarget said, they’ve had plenty of chances to take him. Like I thought the last two seasons, he should just retire already and move on to the second part of his life. NFL is moving on and leaving him behind with the younger talent and depth, it’s time to let go and be satisfied.I wouldn’t be surprised if Cowboys go for it on fourth and short and 2 pt conversions again Niners next week. Especially the way the offense looked.
Also, I’m sure Raider fans have no desire of Brady being their quarterback with McDaniels as the head coach after the tuck game.
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