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Seahawks will need to have major changes this off-season if they want to get out of mediocrity. They haven’t been past the divisional round since SB 49. Even if they won that SB to go back to back, those one and done or lose in the divisional round runs were so mediocre that perhaps Pete would have retired earlier or been fired/asked to resign. Pete is a good coach, 10/14 seasons in the playoffs, one SB title, going to another the following season, winning the division 5 times, the team had a nice run with him at the helm, but stagnation is a problem. The team is talented on both sides, yet they are not improving. He has one more year on his contract and an option for 2025. This is likely his last season. The only thing that would have convinced everyone (perhaps including himself) of staying for another season or two would have been another playoff berth and a playoff win. That loss last week was tough, but they really should have been in the playoffs, comfortably, with this roster. Showed glimpses, but not enough.

End of an era and time for ‘new blood.’
I don't see PC leaving unless he wants to leave.
 
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Another strange game with the only real difference being a long return for a TD. On to the playoffs!

Several coaches unemployed already this AM.
 
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Another strange game with the only real difference being a long return for a TD. On to the playoffs!

Several coaches unemployed already this AM.
i think the Falcons coach would have survived if they had won their last two games and made the playoffs. But the owner went from : "he will probably be back, to wait and see ! " Rivera was obviously moving on. QB is obviously the biggest missing piece and their solid defense has disappeared. Their run game is still pretty good. Rebuild time. They need some hits in the draft. Harbaugh might be one on their coaching list.

The Miami game wasn't too impressive for either team.
 
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I hope the Chargers allow a different player each week to be the player coach, a Pete Rose hybrid, by not having any real coaching the Chargers will be able to remain consistent. I was excited to see that Andy Reid woke up from his nap, and did what was necessary to beat LAC, I got nervous w less than 2 minutes left that the Chargers were going to win.
Falcons and Jags, especially Trevor Lawrence didn't show up.. Someone wrote here that it would appear counterintuitive to rest players on Philadelphia, they have dumped 5 or the last 6 and who knows if playing everyone would have seen them find some lacking coordination. Who knows.
 
Wentz wins the Ginger Bowl !

Green Bay got the job done. Brutal way to go out for the Jags. Seattle win didn't matter nor did the Saints win

Eagles play the Buccs. Pick the winner with any confidence !

Green Bay/Cowboys could be a good game as will Rams/Detroit.

What does the banged up Miami have left ?
I can't imagine the angry angst brewing in Philly.
 
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MIA@KC - I don't see KC losing this game. Having it hover around 15 degrees and windy could even things out, but Miami relies as much on the pass as KC.
It's going to be worse than that. With this being a night game, the forecast is for 0 with minus 10-15 windchill at kickoff (they're saying this could be the coldest game played in franchise history). This is that polar vortex with the bullseye being right over the Midwest (here in Denver, we're going to get the outer fringes with 20's for highs & single digit lows).

The good news is Arrowhead has that state of art turf heating system that can heat the turf up to 50 degrees in the coldest of conditions. This should prevent frostbit toes & soften the turf up so impact on the ground isn't so brutal (remember the famous "ice bowl" game in the 1967 NFC championship between Dallas & GB where players were suffering from frostbit toes & fingers. They say it was so cold that Laundry's fedora froze to his head. Lol).

For the Buffalo-Pitt game, the forecast is for cold, snow & wind (no surprises there for this time of year). Now the break in the weather is LAR playing in the warm, cozy confines of Ford Field. Lol.
 
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I just can't see any miracle turnaround from the Eagles at this point...
I've been watching sports for over 40 years, the one thing I've seen over and over is I don't care how good your team is on paper, how loaded or stacked they are with talent, if you are not playing well you don't just flip a switch and all of a sudden it's sunshine and lollipops. Doesn't happen.
Think Rams/Detroit could be the game of the weekend.
Agree. I went back and watched some highlights. A key is in a few games the Lions are prone at times to giving up big chunks of passing yards, especially over the middle. Lamar for example repeatedly burned them on 20-30 yard throws. Stafford lacks Lamar's mobility, of course, but he has a very good arm and a lot of savvy, and is capable of the same. However, the Rams have also been gashed by the run, and dynamic offenses have burned them. This is exactly how Detroit plays. So it should be a fun game to watch.
Texans/Browns could also be entertaining.
Agree. They played a few weeks ago with Cleveland winning in Houston 36-22, and Flacco looked great. But CJ Stroud didn't even suit up for that game.

I still look back to two losses the Browns had, losing at Denver then at the Rams back to back (the Rams game was Flacco's first). They struggled on both sides of the ball, but even when behind by 2 scores, even after turnovers, or giving up big plays, their defense never stopped fighting, hard. They didn't lose again after that (the Bengals game hardly counts).
Bills/Steelers depends more on the Bills who have had quite a few schizo games this season but the Steelers run game could test them, and Rudolph has been playing quite well.
The weather in this game could be real bad, cold and quite windy, like 30mph winds, with gusts to 40. It will be hard even for Allen to throw the ball very far.

It's going to be worse than that. With this being a night game, the forecast is for 0 with minus 10-15 windchill at kickoff (they're saying this could be the coldest game played in franchise history).
Similar happened in the Freezer Bowl, where the old astroturf heating system in that game was working but overwhelmed by the cold and wind. Kellen Winslow suffered frostbite (not the only person to) on his toes, and said he lost feeling that never completely healed. Several players were injured just falling onto the field, which was basically a frozen slab of plastic carpet over concrete. Though to be clear, the Ice Bowl was even colder, and that turf heating system in GB that day completely failed. There is old film footage of players stomping in the field trying to break through to the sheet of ice that encased the field. I embrace "bad" weather games, and love outdoor football. Some cold, wind, rain or even snow is often cool, but such conditions like the Ice Bowl should never happen again. That's beyond being tough, and there's nothing fun about it. It's both ridiculous and borders on dangerous. Respect to KC as an org for having a very well prepared field.

You are right about the forecast, 15 degrees is going to be the high temperature in KC that day. Like at 1pm. It will not be as windy as Buffalo, but it will be at least breezy, and colder. I seem to recall Mahomes playing okay in cold weather though, despite being from east Texas where it's hot and muggy much of the year. Of course Tua grew up in Hawaii (sunny and warm), played college in Alabama (hot and muggy), now in Miami (warm and...you get the idea).

So Nomad, I'm guessing you're old enough to at least partly remember the last years the Vikings played at the old Met in Minnesota?
 
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Oh wow, people are going to be freezing. Any drop issue for both teams will only get worse with it being that cold. It’ll come down to who runs the ball better, defense for field position and turnovers, and special teams for converting. With the Dolphins injuries I think Chiefs have a leg up on the overall quality of the defensive side and Chiefs special teams should be better since they practice in it.


The one plus for this wildcard is the only sure win team looks to be the Bills, every other game it could go either way.
 
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It's going to be worse than that. With this being a night game, the forecast is for 0 with minus 10-15 windchill at kickoff (they're saying this could be the coldest game played in franchise history). This is that polar vortex with the bullseye being right over the Midwest (here in Denver, we're going to get the outer fringes with 20's for highs & single digit lows).

The good news is Arrowhead has that state of art turf heating system that can heat the turf up to 50 degrees in the coldest of conditions. This should prevent frostbit toes & soften the turf up so impact on the ground isn't so brutal (remember the famous "ice bowl" game in the 1967 NFC championship between Dallas & GB where players were suffering from frostbit toes & fingers. They say it was so cold that Laundry's fedora froze to his head. Lol).

For the Buffalo-Pitt game, the forecast is for cold, snow & wind (no surprises there for this time of year). Now the break in the weather is LAR playing in the warm, cozy confines of Ford Field. Lol.
Don't expect to see much of the Miami coach..........he will be so layered up but you'll be able to see the glint of his glasses............
 
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I think if New England's job opens up that's the one that will be coveted. However I also think it's 99% likely Jerod Mayo would just get the job if Belicheck moves on. It's hard reading tea leaves from BB in the first place, but a wild guess is from limited media readings is he may just give up nearly all GM duties, and Josh McDaniels will return as OC, with Mayo promoted to full-time DC. Fans of the team need to also remember they have the best cap position in the entire NFL over the next 3 years. They are going to have a top draft pick next year (#3 overall), and a ton of cash to spend on FA to fix their OL, get a WR, a TE, etc. Who does Kraft want leading the team into that future?

The Chargers position has some appeal due to quality players under contract, a new facility, and good weather. The negatives? Dean Spanos hasn't been a very good owner, he's stingy with his money, and too big of a chunk of their salary cap is pegged to one good player, who hasn't quite lived up to that money (yet) in Herbert. Can a new coach change that?

Washington is likely another place someone will want to coach, depending on how the structure is set up. Josh Harris has already proven to be a massively better owner than Daniel Snyder. There is going to also be a lot of support from the league overall for this team to appear in a good light, and very likely a new stadium in the next couple years.

As a Raiders fan I know a lot about their situation. If I were the owner I'd just make Antonio Pierce the HC today (not sure how the Rooney rule comes into play here though), and pour everything into keeping Patrick Graham as DC, and get ready to find a top flight OC. But I also have no clue how Mark Davis thinks. He has a long history of both liking shiny things and splashy hires, as well as making one surprisingly good decision followed by a surprisingly bad one. So who knows?

Carolina is of course the huge question mark. There's no question David Tepper can write the fattest check to whomever wants the job. But who wants the job? Tepper also fired Scott Fitterer as GM (who I can't imagine went kicking and screaming. His desk was probably happily cleaned out days ago). So the question becomes, who's in charge there? Usually a GM hires a coach. But if it's a big name coach, that coach has more GM power and the GM often just works with contracts, cap room, and team business with the team's president. But the team now needs both, this is Tepper, and he's very likely in charge of everything, and everyone will report to him on a daily basis. So no guesses what happens here.

The pressure in Carolina will be extra challenging also because whomever is hired as HC is going to not only be expected to turn the team around fairly quickly, but also develop (fix?) Bryce Young, who didn't show much this year, no matter who was coaching or calling plays, blocking, running routes. This season made his ceiling look perhaps above average as a player, that's it. So the stress of showing that isn't the case, with a limited deck of cards, will be big.

Oh wow, people are going to be freezing. Any drop issue for both teams will only get worse with it being that cold. It’ll come down to who runs the ball better, defense for field position and turnovers, and special teams for converting. With the Dolphins injuries I think Chiefs have a leg up on the overall quality of the defensive side and Chiefs special teams should be better since they practice in it.
I tried again looking up KC games in winter, and Mahomes has played quite well in such games. Not lights out big numbers, but he's done just fine, and I imagine he will here. The question becomes, as you say, drops. But also timing. From what Nomad posted the field should be in very good shape (KC one of the best run organizations in the NFL), so route running shouldn't be too bad, just catching and holding onto a frozen brick.

I still think Miami is going to have even more trouble with this, even if they get some of their offensive players back.
The one plus for this wildcard is the only sure win team looks to be the Bills, every other game it could go either way.
From what I can tell TJ Watt has an MCL sprain and is very likely out for this game, which is the worst news for the Steelers. The "best" news is as I posted before, it's going to perhaps be cold, but very windy in Buffalo. If that holds true, it could turn the game into a running grind, or one where a couple interceptions change things, that could give the Steelers some hope. But Buffalo has been increasingly better at running the ball as well, and with no Watt...
 
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I think if New England's job opens up that's the one that will be coveted. However I also think it's 99% likely Jerod Mayo would just get the job if Belicheck moves on. It's hard reading tea leaves from BB in the first place, but a wild guess is from limited media readings is he may just give up nearly all GM duties, and Josh McDaniels will return as OC, with Mayo promoted to full-time DC. Fans of the team need to also remember they have the best cap position in the entire NFL over the next 3 years. They are going to have a top draft pick next year (#3 overall), and a ton of cash to spend on FA to fix their OL, get a WR, a TE, etc. Who does Kraft want leading the team into that future?

The Chargers position has some appeal due to quality players under contract, a new facility, and good weather. The negatives? Dean Spanos hasn't been a very good owner, he's stingy with his money, and too big of a chunk of their salary cap is pegged to one good player, who hasn't quite lived up to that money (yet) in Herbert. Can a new coach change that?

Washington is likely another place someone will want to coach, depending on how the structure is set up. Josh Harris has already proven to be a massively better owner than Daniel Snyder. There is going to also be a lot of support from the league overall for this team to appear in a good light, and very likely a new stadium in the next couple years.

As a Raiders fan I know a lot about their situation. If I were the owner I'd just make Antonio Pierce the HC today (not sure how the Rooney rule comes into play here though), and pour everything into keeping Patrick Graham as DC, and get ready to find a top flight OC. But I also have no clue how Mark Davis thinks. He has a long history of both liking shiny things and splashy hires, as well as making one surprisingly good decision followed by a surprisingly bad one. So who knows?

Carolina is of course the huge question mark. There's no question David Tepper can write the fattest check to whomever wants the job. But who wants the job? Tepper also fired Scott Fitterer as GM (who I can't imagine went kicking and screaming. His desk was probably happily cleaned out days ago). So the question becomes, who's in charge there? Usually a GM hires a coach. But if it's a big name coach, that coach has more GM power and the GM often just works with contracts, cap room, and team business with the team's president. But the team now needs both, this is Tepper, and he's very likely in charge of everything, and everyone will report to him on a daily basis. So no guesses what happens here.

The pressure in Carolina will be extra challenging also because whomever is hired as HC is going to not only be expected to turn the team around fairly quickly, but also develop (fix?) Bryce Young, who didn't show much this year, no matter who was coaching or calling plays, blocking, running routes. This season made his ceiling look perhaps above average as a player, that's it. So the stress of showing that isn't the case, with a limited deck of cards, will be big.


I tried again looking up KC games in winter, and Mahomes has played quite well in such games. Not lights out big numbers, but he's done just fine, and I imagine he will here. The question becomes, as you say, drops. But also timing. From what Nomad posted the field should be in very good shape (KC one of the best run organizations in the NFL), so route running shouldn't be too bad, just catching and holding onto a frozen brick.

I still think Miami is going to have even more trouble with this, even if they get some of their offensive players back.

From what I can tell TJ Watt has an MCL sprain and is very likely out for this game, which is the worst news for the Steelers. The "best" news is as I posted before, it's going to perhaps be cold, but very windy in Buffalo. If that holds true, it could turn the game into a running grind, or one where a couple interceptions change things, that could give the Steelers some hope. But Buffalo has been increasingly better at running the ball as well, and with no Watt...
Patriots might take Vrabel in some capacity as he was just fired.

Chiefs offense also has the benefit of Dolphins maybe being the worst pass rush they’ve faced with the amount of injuries they’ve occurred and having to start practice squad players or JPP returns. Dolphins need to score on their first two drives and chiefs can’t and maybe turn the ball over.
 
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Good post. I'm not surprised Vrabel was fired at all, only that it didn't happen yesterday. He's underperformed two years in a row, and the team will soon be without Tannehill and his contract with Levis taking over. Derrick Henry spoke highly of Vrabel, but he's going to another team too I'm sure. Now is as good as time as anyone for someone else to take over.

A little surprised Matt Eberflus is still employed by Chicago. Maybe they think he can build that team, and if so it's more than 50% it will happen with Fields and the #1 pick will be up for sale. We'll see...

Agree on your assessment of Miami too. They simply have to get ahead, and stay ahead. A 14-0 lead in the 2nd quarter mostly from the run game might do it. But I wouldn't count on that.

Apparently the Rooney rule requires teams to interview at least two minority candidates, regardless of who is on staff. For the Raiders, this means they have to actually interview someone on top of Pierce, they can't just promote him from interim to HC. I found it perhaps telling with all the names coming out, the Raiders have set up interviews for four GM candidates, but zero potential HC's. Why I find this interesting is it's widely assumed in Raider circles Champ Kelly has the inside track to just stay on as GM. He almost had the job last time when Davis instead hired Dave Ziegler, and Kelly is thought of very highly in the organization. It also tells me that Davis isn't interested in who's currently available for HC (names like Frank Smith or Ben Johnson), and may patiently seek a bigger fish, or let a new GM carry a lot of that responsibility. But it's also widely assumed that if Harbaugh (for example) gets a job as HC, he'll also be the de facto GM, in near total control of player personnel decisions (like Belicheck, Payton, and to some extent Reid).
 
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Soon there won't be any HCs left from the defensive side. Funny the way fashions go in the NFL. Currently, everyone wants an offensive guru and Sean McVay's housekeeper is probably going to be getting some interviews.

Personally I think Vrabel did amazingly well to have the Titans anywhere near the playoffs for a few years and the last couple of years more closely reflect the talent (or lack of) on that roster.
 
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If people are looking for NFL game weather forecast, here are two links. Since yesterday both sites have shown worse weather predictions for both KC and Buffalo, with it getting colder, and more windy. Now 6 degrees with 17mph winds in KC, making it feel like -9 degrees at kickoff. Not much better in Buffalo, 29mph sustained winds, with snow now forecast.

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So Nomad, I'm guessing you're old enough to at least partly remember the last years the Vikings played at the old Met in Minnesota?
Oh...yes, definitely remember the Vikings playing at Metropolitan Stadium in Bloomington. That was back with Sir Francis Tarkington, Chuck Foreman, Eddie Marinaro, Allan Page, Jim Marshall, the stoic HC Bud Grant, etc (do you remember "The Purple People Eaters"?).

Many of those December games were played in artic conditions with nasty winds (the stadium was not enclosed all the way around) & an unforgiving frozen field. Lol. But the Viking faithful always showed up in full force wearing their Viking battle helmets & thick, fur coats. They & the Packers had some of the toughest, most hardcore fans that would embrace any kind of conditions to sit in an outdoor stadium & support their team (unlike some of the snowflake fans of today. Lol).

And what surprises me the most was the Vikings moving into an indoor stadium in 1992 (Humprey Dome), and continuing that trend with their current indoor palace, U.S. Bank Stadium. This isn't like the traditionally, hardcore Minnesotian football fan to want to watch a game indoors. Lol. The Packers are still outdoors & they sell out games like crazy in December & January. Same with the Bill's fans - blizzard conditions...Artic blasts...who cares...let's go watch the game.

I suppose it all had to do with $$$? The powers to be in Minneapolis wanted to host a SB, and there's no way they could pull that off in January/February in Minneapolis (because of the VIPs & other dignitaries that would have to sit outside in the cold. Lol). Too bad...because outdoor football in Minnesota was a tradition, a rite of passage & something the fans were proud of.
 
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Speaking of new stadiums, I haven't heard anything lately about the Bears proposed new stadium. Washington is getting a new one. Jags stadium looked in pretty bad condition.
 
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Pete Carroll is let go from his HC job?!? WTH? (I choked on my afternoon coffee when ESPN broke this story!).

Unbelievable - he's 137-89-1 (.606) with 5 divisional titles in 14 seasons as HC with the orginization! He's a SB winning coach & future HOF. He went to the playoffs last year. Though the team missed the playoffs this year, they still finished a respectable 9-8 and that's with QB problems! (it's not like they really tanked going 3-14, 4-13, etc). Carroll is a legend for that organization!

Dismissing Carroll - what the hell is this league coming to?
 
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Pete's demotion leads me to thing one key thought: They have been at least somewhat looking for his successor for some time, and they have found that person (Quinn?). Of course, they will go through the Rooney process, just like they did when Mora Jr. was quickly canned to hire Pete. But that's my guess. Otherwise it makes little sense. Or no sense.

The Bills are getting a new stadium, and I believe it's under construction now. It will be outdoor, with a large awning covering maybe half the fans around the upper deck.

The Bears haven't even chosen a site, and debate of how covered such a stadium should be is still up in the air.

Tennessee will get a new stadium as well. The primary design I've seen is apparently covered, but open air, which I found peculiar for Nashville.

When the Vikings US Bank stadium was built there were a surprising amount of fans who wanted the stadium to be open air, no roof. Similar to Lambeau, Soldier, etc.

As to Jacksonville, their team president made an assertion that if they didn't get a new $1b domed stadium, owner Shad Kahn was going to move the team elsewhere (London?), but he walked that back in an interview. So who knows?
 
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I think it would have been very intriguing had he stayed until the end of his contract (through 2024) and they brought in Belichick as DC. Can you imagine two veteran SB winning coaches in their 70’s on the sidelines, on the same team? 😁
 
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