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A huge blunder indeed not to go over it when it’s a possibility and hadn’t been done since the rule change. Chiefs players had also said they had the game plan to go for 2 if they went second and needed a touchdown to win, maybe even go for 2 if they went first. That is a lot of preplanning Niners lacked and one has to wonder if all Shanahan saw replaying through his mind was Super Bowl 51 when they went out for the coin flip. Shanahan also blundered not using their 3 timeouts to try and get the ball back before regulation ended to set up a field goal. Or even calling a timeouts in overtime to give the defense rest though maybe they thought if time ran out the game would end if Chiefs didn’t score too.
Shanahan knew and some still agreed with his tactics. As for his time management, that's always been an issue re Mike McCarthy sometimes. 49ers needed to win it in regulation time. Why the senior players didn't know is very odd and the ref reminded them at the beginning of OT. The look on Warner's face was hard to read but it did seem that he hadn't heard the refs explanation before then. One thing that was odd was at the beginning of the game when the teams came out for the coin toss, all of the Chiefs captains had their helmets on while the 49ers were the opposite. Seemed to be some game playing going on with the Chiefs..............
 
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Do I sense a Mahomes' hater here? Lol. No question that Mahomes & the O didn't play well until the 4th qtr, but this is what comebacks are all about. This is his third double-digit comeback & most in SB history (Brady is next with two).

The Gunslinger's numbers were very impressive in the 4th qtr: 16/22 154 yds 1 TD (107 rtg), and 4 rushes for 33 yds. But how these runs came is what took the wind out of the SF D: 3 were 3rd down runs for 1st downs & the other was a critical 4th down run for a 1st - all extending the drives. In fact, the 4th down play was a read option where he faked the run to Edwards-Helaire & took off through the alley (I can't ever recall him running a read option play before where he actually took off running).

So, he's clearly the MVP in my opinion because you wouldn't be able to have this kind of a comeback without that caliber of a QB...period. Mahomes can beat you with his arm, feet & mind. Football is about making plays - and when your QB is a top playmaker - and wins close games - that puts a smile on the coach's face and keeps them employed. (just go ask Belichick how things worked out over there with Jones & Zappe? LOL).

Is this Nick Wright’s burner account? First it was the second half Mahomes and the offense started playing well, then it was the fourth quarter and overtime. Brady has come back down 35 points (fourth quarter and middle of third), Mahomes has come back 30 points (1 fourth quarter, start of the second half and he led his team for a touchdown to be down 3, and being down for 4 mins before halftime when they kicked the field goal). Two of those occasions his team received the ball to start the second half. One is not like the other. Then if we want to go even further, Brady has led a scoring drive in the 4th quarter to take the lead in every Super Bowl bar one, 2012 against the Giants when last they scored was the third quarter.

Yes he played extremely well in the fourth quarter and overtime. Total he had 399 yards 2 touchdowns, 1 interception, and 2 fumbles Chiefs recovered but killed their drives. Yet despite how well he played, they still would have lost without that pivotal punt. We didn’t reward the MVP to Hurts despite him outplaying Mahomes. That’s my point, no single person had a better game but the defensive and special teams units as a whole were better. You can make the same case for Brady’s first where he only looked good in fourth quarter and that final drive when the defensive unit as a whole was the MVP yet he received the reward. When there isn’t another player that matches or surpasses the quarterback the reward will go to him everytime, no matter how well the other 2 teams played compared to the quarterback.

Chiefs could have had that comeback with multiple quarterbacks; Allen, Jackson, Hurts, Burrow, and Purdy with maybe a few others depending on their form that day. You’re making it sound like they were down 10 in the fourth. They were down by 4 majority of the third quarter until that recovery put them up by 3. You’re delusional if you don’t think other quarterbacks could have won that kind of game that was played. That leadership and mentality you speak of didn’t kick in until the punt recovery, you could see it in the offense and the way they were acting.
 
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I don't know if this statistic still holds true, but it was historically true that the team that scores first wins the majority of the time, and the team that is ahead at halftime has a higher probability of victory.
Last night I watch late-night shows ,all trying and often failing to put comedic spin on events.. Super Bowl highest amount of viewers in history, highest international viewers of any Super Bowl and highest female audience and highest audience sub 14 years old.
It either sounds silly or it doesn't that pro football players would be unaware of the new overtime rules..
Yes historically, but that changed when Patriots started trying to double up on people by scoring before the half and start of the third quarter receiving the ball. Kicking or receiving first has their ups and downs, receiving the ball second in overtime just has ups.
 
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This is unbelievable that this guy [Trubisky] couldn't make it as a franchise QB. How does something like this happen? He's now potentiality a top-10 all-time bust. Lol.
Don't forget, the Bears traded up to get him too! They swapped 2nd and 3rd picks with SF (even though there was little more than smoke and mirrors that SF would take Trubisky, or any QB), plus three more picks.

Not learning from their mistake, three years later they dumped him, and traded up again, this time with the Giants, moving from 20 to 11 overall to select Justin Fields, dreaming he would be the next Lamar Jackson. They gave the Giants four picks to get Fields. Two first round picks, a fourth and fifth round pick.

Trubisky is another in a growing trend of guys who start 1-2 years in college, and look impressive one season, or one series of games, and NFL teams go insane falling in love with the guy. Ironically, SF did the same thing with Tre Lance.
Probably the same guys that rated Purdy..................
And are now saying in this off-season Shanahan will go for and sign Kirk Cousins, so SF can finally have a real QB. :confused:
Then if we want to go even further, Brady has led a scoring drive in the 4th quarter to take the lead in every Super Bowl bar one, 2012 against the Giants when last they scored was the third quarter.
Ahh yes, ball on the NYG 44, up by two in the 4th Q, just four minutes to go, Brady tosses a 25 yard pass to Welker, who...drops it.
When there isn’t another player that matches or surpasses the quarterback the reward will go to him everytime, no matter how well the other 2 teams played compared to the quarterback.
Hence Eli Manning's two SB MVP awards. Games when the NYG defense held Brady & Co. to 14 points in one game, and 17 in another. Plus as you mentioned Brady's first SB MVP was rather ho-hum. Joe Montana had a single clutch TD pass in the first win over the Bengals, but otherwise did little all game. Peyton Manning didn't beat the Bears the year the Colts won the SB, the Colts defense did. I'm sure someone could find more examples.
 
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Anyone here close to St. Louis? Battlehawks season tickets (5 games) for just $105. That's total, season ticket, not price per game!

The average price for a single game ticket to a KC Chiefs game down the road is $419. One game.

Within days UFL fans will known if AJ McCarron and/or PJ Walker will be coming to the new UFL. I'm thinking Mitch Trubisky should call up some UFL teams before the signing deadline ends, his NFL career is about toast.
 
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I saw a "Go Taylor's Boyfriend" shirt yesterday! :D

Does anyone else watch "Inside the NFL"? Its the only show that I watch every week in its entirety (mostly). They had a pretty solid SB discussion last night. I like the the guys on the current version for the most part , but Clark, while he has great insight, is a bit annoying at times.

It doesn't look like last nights episode is up yet, but maybe by this evening?

 
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I saw a "Go Taylor's Boyfriend" shirt yesterday! :D

Does anyone else watch "Inside the NFL"? Its the only show that I watch every week in its entirety (mostly). They had a pretty solid SB discussion last night. I like the the guys on the current version for the most part , but Clark, while he has great insight, is a bit annoying at times.

It doesn't look like last nights episode is up yet, but maybe by this evening?

I catch it on accident, I think it's one of the better shows on sports. Pat and his spin wear on me.
 
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I think Shanahan also thought his defense needed the rest. But as I pointed out before, there were ways to help with that without taking the ball first. For example, as regulation ended SF had two time outs and the ball on offense. They could have taken the two time outs before the clock got to zero. Plus tossed two quick passes out of bounds. Then taken a knee to end the game. There's 5 minutes of rest for the defense. There are also tricky ways for coaches to delay other parts of the game. For example, he could have taken an extra minute to get his guys out there for the coin toss. Then they could have deferred, and right after the kick off in OT taken a time out (as they had three fresh ones to burn). We're talking about a good 10 minute rest here between plays for his defense. Also, if the Chiefs got into the red zone and he felt his defense was tired, he could have burned time outs then.
 
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But don't worry SF fans, experts are determining that the 49ers are going to get rid of Brock Purdy, who is just a game manager and couldn't get them the win in this game (against KC's very soft pass defense), so they are going to spend $40m to bring Kirk Cousins to the rescue. Even though SF is already scheduled to be $11m over the cap.

Cousins expected to take Purdy's job.

Cousins linked to familiar destination (SF).

SI's Connor Orr (who correctly predicted KC would repeat), says Cousins is headed to SF. "Shanahan wants fast processors who don’t miss throws. His affinity for Cousins is known. If the 49ers plan on running it back, it makes sense to bolster the QB room." (His SB pick next year is Cincinnati over Detroit).

Fox Sports Ben Maller says it's time for SF to move on from "game executive" Purdy and get a real QB, and that QB will be Kirk Cousins.

 
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Is this Nick Wright’s burner account? First it was the second half Mahomes and the offense started playing well, then it was the fourth quarter and overtime. Brady has come back down 35 points (fourth quarter and middle of third), Mahomes has come back 30 points (1 fourth quarter, start of the second half and he led his team for a touchdown to be down 3, and being down for 4 mins before halftime when they kicked the field goal). Two of those occasions his team received the ball to start the second half. One is not like the other. Then if we want to go even further, Brady has led a scoring drive in the 4th quarter to take the lead in every Super Bowl bar one, 2012 against the Giants when last they scored was the third quarter.

Yes he played extremely well in the fourth quarter and overtime. Total he had 399 yards 2 touchdowns, 1 interception, and 2 fumbles Chiefs recovered but killed their drives. Yet despite how well he played, they still would have lost without that pivotal punt. We didn’t reward the MVP to Hurts despite him outplaying Mahomes. That’s my point, no single person had a better game but the defensive and special teams units as a whole were better. You can make the same case for Brady’s first where he only looked good in fourth quarter and that final drive when the defensive unit as a whole was the MVP yet he received the reward. When there isn’t another player that matches or surpasses the quarterback the reward will go to him everytime, no matter how well the other 2 teams played compared to the quarterback.

Chiefs could have had that comeback with multiple quarterbacks; Allen, Jackson, Hurts, Burrow, and Purdy with maybe a few others depending on their form that day. You’re making it sound like they were down 10 in the fourth. They were down by 4 majority of the third quarter until that recovery put them up by 3. You’re delusional if you don’t think other quarterbacks could have won that kind of game that was played. That leadership and mentality you speak of didn’t kick in until the punt recovery, you could see it in the offense and the way they were acting.
I've never even heard of "Nick Wright?" - I had to look him up. Lol. Yes...Chiefs could have had that comeback with Allen, Jackson, Hurts & Burrow - not sure about Purdy though. But Burrow & Purdy haven't won a SB. And Allen & Jackson can't even make it to the SB. Lol.

My point that I stand firm on is Mahomes was the reason they won this SB...simply put. Mahomes is the reason they were even in the SB in first place. In fact, he's the sole reason KC is a dynasty. You can't be intellectually dishonest & not concede this fact if you examine the history of the Kansas City Chiefs. The Chiefs haven't experienced this kind of success since the 1960's - though they only won one SB (IV) prior under legendary HOF QB Len Dawson & Hank Stram (they won a few of the old "AFL" championships prior to the merger). Now KC has three SBs in the span of just FIVE years! Mahomes sat his rookie season...then to the championship game in his first year of starting...then SB champion the next year! (Lombardi would be impressed with this team). Geez...I wonder who's primarily responsible for that? Couldn't be #15. Lol. Much like Dawson made Stram look great, Mahomes has made Reid a future HOF coach.

But the success of Mahomes has made it even worse now for 1st rd high-drafted QBs.  Any QB drafted in the top-15 or so spot is going to be compared to Mahomes & expected to lead their team to the promised land - and very quickly nonetheless (patience is not a virtue with many of these owners who are paying big bucks for these top guys). These expectations & comparisons to Mahomes have already been occurring (no surprises there). That's why Trubisky, Wilson, Darnold, Rosen, Lance, M. Jones & possibly D. Jones & Fields - all top 15 picks in the last several years - have been pretty much written off, or have already been written off as saviors for their respected teams. And Scouts right now are obsessively looking at Williams, Maye & Daniels - all top 3 picks - debating which one of these guys could be the next Mahomes. Which one of these guys could single-handedly turn a bad or below-average team into a SB champion (and practically overnight!).

What is the old saying in the NFL..."Not For Long." Not for long for these top 1st rounders that fail to deliver the goods. Lol.
 
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But don't worry SF fans, experts are determining that the 49ers are going to get rid of Brock Purdy, who is just a game manager and couldn't get them the win in this game (against KC's very soft pass defense), so they are going to spend $40m to bring Kirk Cousins to the rescue. Even though SF is already scheduled to be $11m over the cap.

Cousins expected to take Purdy's job.

Cousins linked to familiar destination (SF).

SI's Connor Orr (who correctly predicted KC would repeat), says Cousins is headed to SF. "Shanahan wants fast processors who don’t miss throws. His affinity for Cousins is known. If the 49ers plan on running it back, it makes sense to bolster the QB room." (His SB pick next year is Cincinnati over Detroit).

Fox Sports Ben Maller says it's time for SF to move on from "game executive" Purdy and get a real QB, and that QB will be Kirk Cousins.

-Purdy is better than Cousins.
-Purdy is still improving.
-Cousins has hit his ceiling.
-Purdy is 24, Cousins is 35.
-Purdy costs ~$1 MIL next year, Cousins costs ~$40 MIL next year.
EASY decision!
 
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49ers fire DC Steve Wilks after one season.
Too funny...he couldn't stop Mahomes. Lol

And if they sign Cousins and give Purdy the boot what a clown show over there. The 9ers are so butthurt over losing to the Chiefs - in what was supposed to be a "down year" for them. I wouldn't doubt that Shanahan is having a nervous breakdown over this - maybe his days are numbered. Lol
 
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Too funny...he couldn't stop Mahomes. Lol

And if they sign Cousins and give Purdy the boot what a clown show over there. The 9ers are so butthurt over losing to the Chiefs - in what was supposed to be a "down year" for them. I wouldn't doubt that Shanahan is having a nervous breakdown over this - maybe his days are numbered. Lol
It's more than that. The 49ers started the season as the number one rated defense and it continually slipped during the season. They were lucky to get out of the Detroit and GB games but both of those teams have a much better run game than the Chiefs as well and run defense was one of their worst ratings. Part of the problem was signing Hargrave to a big contract from the Eagles and losing a lot of depth players on defense. Young didn't have the overall impact they were looking for, Hargrave had a decent season but the 49ers pass rush deteriorated and their run defense went south. They also have Greenlaw out for the season but should get Hufanga back for part of the season.

Forget Cousins. The way Shanahan has been talking about Purdy, Cousins won't be arriving any time soon. Vikings will probably sign Cousins for two more seasons while trying to find a quality rookie or Cousins lands at one of the many other teams that need a QB. Cousins usually gets his money but the Giants were paying Jones 40 million ! Be interesting to see if the Hawks as well still show confidence in Geno for the future.
 
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Clint Kubiak confirmed as the new OC at the Saints.
Let's see if he can solve the Derek Carr riddle. Carr has a long history of somehow managing to get coaches fired. My guess is if the Saints don't make the playoffs next year, Dennis Allen will get the boot there.

It's more than that. The 49ers started the season as the number one rated defense and it continually slipped during the season. They were lucky to get out of the Detroit and GB games but both of those teams have a much better run game than the Chiefs as well and run defense was one of their worst ratings. Part of the problem was signing Hargrave to a big contract from the Eagles and losing a lot of depth players on defense. Young didn't have the overall impact they were looking for, Hargrave had a decent season but the 49ers pass rush deteriorated and their run defense went south. They also have Greenlaw out for the season but should get Hufanga back for part of the season.

Forget Cousins. The way Shanahan has been talking about Purdy, Cousins won't be arriving any time soon. Vikings will probably sign Cousins for two more seasons while trying to find a quality rookie or Cousins lands at one of the many other teams that need a QB. Cousins usually gets his money but the Giants were paying Jones 40 million ! Be interesting to see if the Hawks as well still show confidence in Geno for the future.
Agree with you there. Granted, losing Hufanga was a real blow, and losing Greenlaw in the SB itself, those two quite possibly would have been the difference in the end (Greenlaw likely back late next season). But this D was absolutely stacked with talent, and almost continually underperformed, if often just a little. Even if they had won the Super Bowl a lot of analytics over the off-season would have been exactly as you say. I also get the feeling Wilkes has a stern, dominating personality, and it probably rubbed several people the wrong way in that org.

Me too Unchained. :disrelieved:
 
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More fantastic news for the UFL. AJ McCarron asked to be released from his contract with the Bengals to join the UFL and return to the St. Louis Battlehawks. He should be signing with them by tomorrow! AJ played the best ball of his life last season to win the XFL MVP.

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My point that I stand firm on is Mahomes was the reason they won this SB...simply put. Mahomes is the reason they were even in the SB in first place.
No, he’s not. Their defense playing elite every single game is. A defense that kept them in every game even when Mahomes and the offense were making mistakes. If Chiefs had their defense from 2018, they’d be lucky to make the playoffs because the offense wasn’t producing. That’s not even considering their special teams playing well with their punter pinning teams back and kicker being clutch. This season was the 2019 Patriots who turned into the 2001 Patriots to win the Super Bowl.

But this year was a great year for Mahomes to settle down, get long sustained drives. and become a game manger to get the win. This is something he lacked previously that caused them to lose some games. Something I’ve criticized in the past of Mahomes and the Chiefs due to any time they tried long drives they’d make a mistake. With Rice progressing and depending on who they pick up in the draft and offseason Chiefs offense should be better next year. There’s already the rumors of Evans, Diggs, and Brown. Who else is going to come to try and get a ring now. The concern is their defensive stars that could leave and replacing them.
 
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No, he’s not. Their defense playing elite every single game is. A defense that kept them in every game even when Mahomes and the offense were making mistakes. If Chiefs had their defense from 2018, they’d be lucky to make the playoffs because the offense wasn’t producing. That’s not even considering their special teams playing well with their punter pinning teams back and kicker being clutch. This season was the 2019 Patriots who turned into the 2001 Patriots to win the Super Bowl.

But this year was a great year for Mahomes to settle down, get long sustained drives. and become a game manger to get the win. This is something he lacked previously that caused them to lose some games. Something I’ve criticized in the past of Mahomes and the Chiefs due to any time they tried long drives they’d make a mistake. With Rice progressing and depending on who they pick up in the draft and offseason Chiefs offense should be better next year. There’s already the rumors of Evans, Diggs, and Brown. Who else is going to come to try and get a ring now. The concern is their defensive stars that could leave and replacing them.
Chiefs even admitted that they were changing their style of play. Gone were the big splash plays of the past mostly and the downfield throws. More dink and dunk. more screen play and it worked. No one was talking about Mahomes as the regular season MVP. They played an efficient offense with an often lockdown defense. In the SB Aiyuk had 4 passes, Kittle 2. Deebo 11 targets for three catches. Jennings a handful. CMC's run game averaged around three yards per carry or 3.5, all very untypical for the 49ers this season. The Browns were really their only other opposition that locked down the 49ers offense all season and the Ravens managed it in the first half of their game. They were averaging up around 30 points per game and that would have been enough to win the SB. The lack of points in the first half really hurt them. They had their opportunities.
 
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It maybe got overlooked by superbowl week but Seattle hired a new offensive coordinator last week (Ryan Grubb) and it was nteresting for multiple reasons. This was a key hire for the Seahawks with a very young rookie head coach, Mike Macdonald, who was also going to be calling their defense. So it was a bit surprising to see them hire a college OC with no NFL experience and no obvious links to Macdonald. Not least because it was assumed Grubb was following his HC from Washington to Alabama and indeed had already announced himself as the new Alabama OC at a public function. This is a pretty bold move - you assume it is very much a John Schneider hire. Whether that means Seattle draft Penix or that is 2+2=5 remains to be seen