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I posted before about guys who came back when, after ACL surgery, and how the average for an athlete is 9 months (about 39 weeks). Which would mean Mahomes would be playing maybe week 2. Adrian Peterson came back after some 32 weeks and had a fantastic season. Jerry Rice tried to come back after 15 weeks and promptly broke his knee cap (later admitting it was a big mistake coming back so soon). Then of course there was RGIII with a partially torn ACL, Washington put him out there, and against Seattle his knee was completely trashed and his career over after a sensational rookie year. But most guys aren't the same until a year after the surgery, or longer, even if they don't get hurt again.
My gut tells me Mahomes plays week 1 though. There were debates they rushed him into surgery (about 24 hours after the injury), and maybe into rehab (about 3 days later). He also didn't tear just his ACL, but LCL as well. Searches tell me there are debates on all this (of course). To me though the Chiefs seem to realize there isn't this huge window of numerous years left, and are sort of in a win-now mode. Witnessed by Kelce coming back for one more season, and KC paying him a whopping $12m. So if Mahomes can play at all week 1 and they don't think it will lead to another injury, they'll play him.
My gut tells me Mahomes plays week 1 though. There were debates they rushed him into surgery (about 24 hours after the injury), and maybe into rehab (about 3 days later). He also didn't tear just his ACL, but LCL as well. Searches tell me there are debates on all this (of course). To me though the Chiefs seem to realize there isn't this huge window of numerous years left, and are sort of in a win-now mode. Witnessed by Kelce coming back for one more season, and KC paying him a whopping $12m. So if Mahomes can play at all week 1 and they don't think it will lead to another injury, they'll play him.
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Like I said before, I don’t think Mahomes will play well due to the injury and the team around him. If he returns to former or even 75% of his previous running ability by next season that would be a miracle. Otherwise they’d be lucky to get to 10 wins. I think in two seasons with this one working on his pocket passing and progression he’ll be better. I just hope he doesn’t have a worse injury. The team already doesn’t run some plays due to him getting on that qb sneak. It’ll be bad if they condense their playbook even further. That’s why I thought getting Taysom Hill would be a good idea.
On what the Chiefs think it’s a 50/50. Either they have compete faith that Mahomes can recover and take them on a deep playoff run or they know there will be issues and are getting more offensive support in order to take pressure off him.
On what the Chiefs think it’s a 50/50. Either they have compete faith that Mahomes can recover and take them on a deep playoff run or they know there will be issues and are getting more offensive support in order to take pressure off him.
Agree with what you say. Pre season is time to audition another sub-starter for that role and ease Patrick into it. For what it's worth: Chiefs defensive upgrades could go a long way taking off some pressure off the situation. Kenneth Walker will provide some early season challenges for any defense as long as Kelce can play like he should and a little O-line time emerges.
Much depends on the schedule. If they start with the Broncos they should protect Mahomes. Denver's D will be knee hunting immediately. Should they platoon another QB for the first 6 games or so that will help as long as losses in the division don't stack up early(common sense). A healthy Mahomes in the back part of a season is more valuable than limping through the first half and losing him altogether.
His quick surgery schedule hopefully will help and likely possible due to minimal swelling. The source of the ACL is part of the recovery, though. If they grafted some of his own hamstring material the recovery can be quicker and not as subject to rejection concerns. If those tendons are retrievable without grafts; so much the better. The way he was limping for the last few games; those scenarios seem far fetched.
Sure he hasn't lived up to the #1 OA pick but neither has Winston, Murray, Mayfield or Lawrence. And if we use the metric as at least getting to the SB for the expectations of a #1 OA pick, only Stafford, Burrow & Goff have achieved that mark out of the current #1's in the league (it's too early of course to judge Williams & Ward, though Williams is looking promising with a playoff win just in his 2nd yr of starting).
I think if Carolina doesn't make the playoffs and Young plays poorly, I can see the organization moving on from him. But that would be the only scenario, IMO. Look at the Chargers - Herbert can't win a playoff game in 3 tries already & there's no indication that they're going to move on from him (they'll just keep changing OCs. Lol). And also look at Dallas - no playoffs last year but Dak played magnificently (top 10 in most QB stat categories) & Jerry Jones has not hinted one bit at moving on from Dak.
Now Arizona did move on from Murray. However, I believe that was more because of injuries missing 21 games in the last 3 seasons. And this past season he couldn't even make it past week #5 before done for the season with the foot season. They got him two excellent weapons in Harrison Jr & McBride but if he's injured all the time he can't take advantage of these players.
And now the Vikings want to sign him? Lol. How long is he going to last with them? Maybe make it through a half of season? I believe when all is said & done, Murray will go down as an injury bust. I think it was started downhill for him with that ACL tear.
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- DE Bryce Huff announced his retirement after six NFL seasons on Instagram. He played four with the Jets, one with the Eagles, and one with the 49ers. Huff, 27, had a career-high 10 sacks in 2023 with the Jets, leading to a lucrative contract with the Eagles but was traded to the 49ers after one season.
Surprised the 49ers spent that much on Greenlaw. Maybe he should be thinking more like Huff at this stage.
It's probably time for the Chiefs to turn him into more of a pocket passer. There's some research on this that shows post-ACL surgery QBs are not running as much (or for as many yards) taking more sacks & getting rid of the ball quicker to avoid a hit, which is turned into more turnovers.
3 things we know about Kyler Murray’s 2023 season based on past quarterbacks post-ACL recovery
These QBs and their post-ACL stats show how hard it is to produce at a high level coming off an ACL, but there is a silver lining
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And you can clearly see this with Danny Dimes. The 2022 playoff season with the NYG (pre-ACL injury) he rushed for 708 yds on 120 carries, which was the most rushing yds by a NYG QB in a single season. He was averaging 44 yds on 8 carries a game - excellent for a dual-threat.
With Stechien at Indy, he runs much less & throws from the pocket more. In the 13 games before the Achilles injury, he rushed for 164 yds on 45 carries. That's only an average of about 12 yds on 3 carries per game. A complete turn around from 2022. And in scrambles & scramble yards, he was only 21st in the league which shows more pocket passing.
Bad news for "Rocket Joe" - he now has competition for the backup spot.
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I question if Greenlaw has, or ever will fully heal from his achilles tear. Remember, he was one the very best coverage LBs in the NFL before that. And after he got hurt in that SB, Reid and Mahomes knew where to attack. In fact Greenlaw would have been covering Hardman on that last TD.
No more "Bazooka Joe?"
No more "Bazooka Joe?"
Yeah the Greenlaw injury in the SB was horrible timing for the 49ers. He was all over the Chiefs in the first half.I question if Greenlaw has, or ever will fully heal from his achilles tear. Remember, he was one the very best coverage LBs in the NFL before that. And after he got hurt in that SB, Reid and Mahomes knew where to attack. In fact Greenlaw would have been covering Hardman on that last TD.
No more "Bazooka Joe?"
No, he says his nickname is actually "Rocket Joe" & prefers to be called such:I question if Greenlaw has, or ever will fully heal from his achilles tear. Remember, he was one the very best coverage LBs in the NFL before that. And after he got hurt in that SB, Reid and Mahomes knew where to attack. In fact Greenlaw would have been covering Hardman on that last TD.
No more "Bazooka Joe?"
It's interesting how some coaches are not handing the backup job to the incumbent from the year before. If you recall Milton's situation at NE, he said he felt "disrespected" & wasn't given a fair chance to compete against Maye for the starting job (c'mon Joe, Maye is a #3 OA pick & you're a 6th rounder - you weren't drafted to be a starter). So, Milton requests a trade & off to Dallas where he wins the backup. But now he's got to do it all over again against Howell, a 5th rounder, who I think isn't all that bad of a QB (started the entire 2023 season for the Commanders).
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That's no fun though. Rocket Joe? There's no reference. Bazooka Joe has a great historical reference. Rocket Joe...Lame. Milton's issue is the same as those other "rocket" guys I named: Boller, Druckenmiller, etc.: Poor accuracy. The Jim Kelly quote will never get old: "I can throw the ball 70 yards in the air, but it doesn't matter if I can't hit the broad side of a barn."
Ben Johnson is someone who had high praise for Howell.
Ben Johnson is someone who had high praise for Howell.
Be a miracle if he doesn't get jail time. Easy way to screw up an NFL career ..........
Not only accuracy problems but he throws the ball too hard on short & intermediate routes making catching difficult (Milton says no but teammates have said otherwise). All Milton can do now is win the backup job putting him in a position to play if something happens to Dak.
On Sam Howell: A little known fact is that Drake Maye sat his freshman year under him at North Carolina. Maye said he learned a lot under Howell & that they've become best of friends.
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Giants OC Matt Nagy Reveals What He Loves About QB Jaxson Dart
The Giants' incoming offensive coordinator has taken notice of one important quality in his new quarterback that he can't wait to work on.
Interesting article - Nagy compares Dart's character with that of "Mahomes." He says there's two objectives with Dart: 1) Acquire playmakers at the skill positions through FA & the draft & 2) Change Dart's aggressive running style to slide & run out of bounds more to avoid injury (definitely important when dealing with a dual-threat QB).
All eyes will be on Dart & Ward for breakout seasons in their 2nd yr of starting (the only two QBs taken in the 1st rd in last year's draft).
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I have to admit I was disappointed with Ward, until the last 3 games of the season. Changing coaches, and more, didn't help. But they went into the season saying they were focused on offense, and their offense was terrible. Dart definitely showed flashes of being a legit starter, but as you pointed out Nomad, he's already had too many concussions.
WTH? Another streaming package needed to watch the Melbourne game?
View: https://youtu.be/RohGxG7_aJI?si=4tt8FXJFC-ZHfMI9
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The solution used to be to buy the NFL package, then just stream it from your phone (or tablet) to your TV. Even the smaller package got you broadcast games, and RedZone. I don't know the latest but I believe the NFL has sold this to ESPN, and from what I can gather ESPN wants you to buy a full package of their crap, which I refuse to do. There's almost nothing on ESPN I want to watch.
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Jets set to trade QB Justin Fields to Chiefs, sources say
The Jets have agreed to trade quarterback Justin Fields to the Chiefs, pending a physical, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Monday.
Looks like Chiefs are prepping for Mahomes to either not start the first few weeks, reinjures, or has some struggles. Better than the rumor of them looking at Wilson.
Just saw news that Rams may move on from Davante Adams. Would love to see someone in AFC trade for him; then flip him to Seattle.
Nothing more fun than bending them over and COOPERKUPPING them again.
Nothing more fun than bending them over and COOPERKUPPING them again.
I have ESPN primarily for their college games & MNF. They start off early in the morning with "College Game Day" & run several games throughout the day culminating with a late nightcap game. I also like their MLB Sunday night games that start in April & run through Sept. I get ESPN1, ESPN2 & ESPN+ as part of a "Sling TV" package that's reasonably priced at $38.00 a month. I have Prime for TNF & Peacock for SNF & Epic Cycling (TDF, Vuelta, spring classics, etc).
Good move for the Chiefs since their QB room wasn't looking so good with Minshew's departure to the Cardinals (they were left with Oladukun & Haener).
Alpe is unsure if Mahomes would be ready for week #1 - could be more like week #2. If that's the case, I'm sure Fields would be the opening day starter barring a disastrous preseason or any injuries.
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NFL+ - RedZone, plus all national broadcast games , plus replays of all games (full game, condensed game, coaches film), is $49 for the entire year. Or, it was. Who knows now with ESPN buying it. If they shove me into a package like that, there is zero chance I'm buying. I'll look for pirate feeds.
Agree Fields a decent backup choice for the Chiefs. It's also likely he'll learn a lot under Reid, Bienemy and crew. Enough to turn him into the starter many thought he could be? Who knows.
I'd love to see Davante Adams traded to the Browns, Jets (again) Cardinals or Dolphins.
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