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Alpe d'Huez

Alpe d'Huez

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Who is the "front office" exactly? They use Sheila Ford as a trigger, but she isn't the GM, Brad Holmes is, and executive VP. And above him sits Ron Wood who is the president and CEO of the org. She's considered active in team and league issus, but with this many layers I seriously doubt Ford made a call saying "low ball that long haired #34! I need the cash!" Granted, they had the cap space to pay him what TB did, but they have to keep building a team for the present, and future.

I think Simms is right.
 
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Strange article claiming that there's a lack of fanfare & hype on Mendoza because of the style of QB he presents. Article states that Mendoza is presented as a "traditional pocket passer" along the lines of Brady, Goff & Ryan as opposed to the dynamic, highly'mobile pocket passers/dual-threats like Mahomes, Allen, Maye, Williams, etc.

I'm not sure how this conclusion was reached. Granted, Mendoza isn't a dynamic scrambler/running type QB but he's far from immobile & would take off running as opposed to getting sacked or having to throw the ball away.

Last year at Indiana he rushed for 276 yds on 90 carries (about 6 rushes per game) & 7 scores. Comparing him to some of the other top passers in this class, he had 3 times as much yardage as Simpson had last season at Bama & more yardage than Beck & Nussmier had in their careers at Miami/Georgia & LSU, respectively.

What I've seen on tape is Mendoza can scramble out of a collapsing pocket, and you give him a lane...he's gone.
 
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That was cool. Agree with all those old guys. The game has forever changed and the day of a genius QB sitting in the pocket picking apart a defense are over. Everyone from here on out (or until they radically change the rules) will be a true dual threat or highly mobile. As RGIII pointed out a couple years ago, this creates true 11 on 11 football.

Cool seeing McNabb. Liked that guy a lot years ago. Very dynamic and ahead of his time. Had he won that SB over a superb NE team, he'd be a HOF candidate. This play is not from the SB, but I remember when it happened, and it's still amazing to this day:

 
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I don't remember that play specifically but I saw a lot of McNabb. He was very mobile & could scramble with the best of them plus he had elite passing skills (and very agile for a 240 pounder).

Here in an interview with Cam Newton he talks about how if he had won that SB, he might have a Gold jacket. Nonetheless, he's in the Eagles' Hall of Fame, Philadelphia Sports Hall of Fame & they retired his #5:

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/AR3ynYUzILI?si=VazsgMo5raniL39z

No question it's dual-threats or highly mobile QBs. That's exactly the two types of QBs that are dominating the college ranks as well. No HS kid is coming in as pure pocket passer anymore.

And I think the NFL is down to one last pure pocket passer starter...Stafford (?). I incorrectly claimed last year that Darnold was a pure pocket passer & not very mobile. But after seeing that dynamic run he had against NE in the SB, and looking back in his background where he's had some 200 plus rushing yard seasons, he's definitely a mobile pocket passer:

This is iimpressive - the juke he puts on the DB is crazy (and he's a big guy to boot):

 
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/I6sIksC-gS4?si=hpRo4WgqAE3192QT
 
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Darnold reminds me a little of Tony Romo, the way he could move very well within a pocket or when it breaks down. Even though neither guy is really likely to run.

Stafford once was quite mobile. But the threat of him taking off and running is now non-existent.

Jared Goff isn't very mobile. Kirk Cousins (assuming he starts a handful of games for the Raiders) isn't mobile. I'm not sure how mobile Joe Burrow or Dak Prescott will be, but they aren't pure pocket passers either.

If one wants to see the future/present just watch UFL games. All guys are dual threat or highly mobile.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
Darnold reminds me a little of Tony Romo, the way he could move very well within a pocket or when it breaks down. Even though neither guy is really likely to run.

Stafford once was quite mobile. But the threat of him taking off and running is now non-existent.

Jared Goff isn't very mobile. Kirk Cousins (assuming he starts a handful of games for the Raiders) isn't mobile. I'm not sure how mobile Joe Burrow or Dak Prescott will be, but they aren't pure pocket passers either.

If one wants to see the future/present just watch UFL games. All guys are dual threat or highly mobile.
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Darnold can run, just doesn't do it much. Don't remember Romo running much. Dak would have the occasional scramble even Stafford but it's rare. Cousins is less mobile than both of them similar to Goff. Burrow can be elusive but usually on short runs if any. Allen and Lamar are at the top. Mayfield runs more than he used to but takes some punishment and noticeably Dart, Allen and Lamar have been racking up some injuries as well with risky runs as well as Mahomes. Russell Wilson in his peak years was one of the best scramblers and rarely got injured because he always used to slide unlike Allen.
 
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Wilson was definitely one of the best dual-threats in his prime. In his 3rd year he had a 850 yd rushing season. His total rushing yards of 5568 puts him 4th on the QB all-time rushing list. Sad to see his skills diminish so badly to where it's an embarrassment now when he plays.

Rodgers is another one that was a dynamic scrambler/runner in his hey day. But now he's lost a lot of that mobility & elusiveness. I noticed with him that when the pocket breaks down he'll just fall down to avoid a hard hitting sack (smart on his part). Again sad to see him struggle when he's a shadow of his former self. What's the point of Pittsburgh sticking with him as their starter when this is not the HOF version of Rodgers? (I think he could stick around for a few more years as a backup)..

Since coming into the league Nix has shown some excellent scrambling & running ability. In two full seasons he's totaled 786 rushing yards (9 TDs) which is about 23 yds average per game - nearly identical to Mahomes' average. In fact, Payton has even dialed up some QB sweeps from shotgun where both guards pull - reminiscent of the QB sweeps from the single wing formation back in the old days.
 
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