Nicole Cooke attacks drug cheats in the womens peloton

[martinvickers]

I think I recall Cooke being outspoken against Millar and his doping in the past, does anyone have a link to what she said?

According to one of the career-obits yesterday, she had a pretty fierce rattle at Brailsford about it in 2006 - specifically his being allowed back in the GB team.

 

[Benotti69]

quod erat demonstrandum, B.

Still suffering from the Latin being beaten into you.

 

[Benotti69]

I would advise people to follow the link rather than just read sniper's selected bit. The two preceeding paragraphs detail her knees problems and that it was that that lead her to Bartolucci.

It lead to Bartolucci but as she says he did much more than fix her knees, he took over her whole medical programme.

Medical programme in cycling is another phrase for doping.

 

[martinvickers]

Still suffering from the Latin being beaten into you.

Some of us didn't need the beating, B. some of us just 'prepared' for our exams.

 

[martinvickers]

It lead to Bartolucci but as she says he did much more than fix her knees, he took over her whole medical programme.

Medical programme in cycling is another phrase for doping.

So, she openly admitted in this article to a "medical programme" - 'knowing', as an insider, that it meant doping?

She actually voluntarily gave an interview where she basically loudly 'admitted '"I'm doped like a loon, motherf***ers"?

yeah, of course she did.

 

[Benotti69]

Some of us didn't need the beating, B. some of us just 'prepared' for our exams.

Cooke just 'prepared' with her 'medical programmes' allegedly.

Hope 'preparing' with the Christian bros didn't leave too many scars.

 

[martinvickers]

Cooke just 'prepared' with her 'medical programmes' allegedly.

Hope 'preparing' with the Christian bros didn't leave too many scars.

Harrummpfff!

I'm afraid I escaped the Brothers - got landed with a seminary school instead...

never forget mind, what an old priest once told me about boys and girls schools...

"sure, martin, the brothers are brutal...but the sisters are vicious, and that's the difference!!"

 

[Hawkwood]

It lead to Bartolucci but as she says he did much more than fix her knees, he took over her whole medical programme.

Medical programme in cycling is another phrase for doping.

Where did she say `...he took over her whole medical programme.'? I can't find that.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

JV let you off the leash today?

I expressed an opinion. I did not state any fact. I also expressed a hope that she rode clean, which ha conveniently been ignored by those who wish to ignore it is cycling we are talking about. But this is the sport of cycling we are discussing. Those at the top appear to have had a total disregard for the rules.

Noted.
Thanks.

 

[Jack (6 ch)]

I think I recall Cooke being outspoken against Millar and his doping in the past, does anyone have a link to what she said?

Jeremy Whittle has one in 'Bad Blood'; couldn't paraphrase it for you now (I am travelling) but it is very clear.

 

[coinneach]

Where did she say `...he took over her whole medical programme.'? I can't find that.

Its in the article in the Independant: I quoted it earlier in the thread

 

[Mellow Velo]

Jeremy Whittle has one in 'Bad Blood'; couldn't paraphrase it for you now (I am travelling) but it is very clear.

"I really think that if someone makes the conscious decision to dope they also have the choice not to, so once they have had one chance to make a decision and make the wrong one, then they should pay the consequences."

"So, you don't agree with D Millar returning to the British national squad?"

"Rules are made - not by myself - and you have to accept the rules.
If a time comes when I could make some positive changes to the sport, then maybe I'd get interested, but I can't change the situation we're in now...........


.....I think David respects me, and I (PAUSE) respect the position that David is in.
I'm not going to waste time thinking about David's position and I don't suppose he will spend time thinking about mine."

Maybe, she had this in mind, yesterday?

 

[coinneach]

Maybe, she had this in mind, yesterday?

Maybe she had this in mind in 2006-8?

She could hardly have been given a clearer, or more unwelcome message.
If she did weaken to temptation and sign up with a dodgy Italian doctor, Brailsford would have a big part to play in it.
And for the record, I can't remember Victoria Pendleton saying one good word about Brailsford in her autobiography.

I still think her doping is extremely unlikely, though there is always the slimmer possibility she didn't know what she had been given. But surely its ok to explore these possibilities when she herself is talking about doping in cycling?

 

[xcleigh]

Assuming that Nichole Cook is a doper, what would be the motivation behind releasing a widely publicised anti-doping statement upon retirement? Why not quietly disappear into the background. Olympic and World Champion slips away unseen no questions asked. I'm trying to work out the logic of such a statement if she was doping and drawing attention to herself in such a way. Out of interest are there any other known dopers who made such similar strong public statements when they retired?

 

[JimmyFingers]

It lead to Bartolucci but as she says he did much more than fix her knees, he took over her whole medical programme.

Medical programme in cycling is another phrase for doping.

It is also a phrase for a medical programme. You know, medicine and stuff

 

[JimmyFingers]

Assuming that Nichole Cook is a doper, what would be the motivation behind releasing a widely publicised anti-doping statement upon retirement? Why not quietly disappear into the background. Olympic and World Champion slips away unseen no questions asked. I'm trying to work out the logic of such a statement if she was doping and drawing attention to herself in such a way. Out of interest are there any other known dopers who made such similar strong public statements when they retired?

This +100000

 

[JimmyFingers]

Maybe she had this in mind in 2006-8?

She could hardly have been given a clearer, or more unwelcome message.
If she did weaken to temptation and sign up with a dodgy Italian doctor, Brailsford would have a big part to play in it.
And for the record, I can't remember Victoria Pendleton saying one good word about Brailsford in her autobiography.

I still think her doping is extremely unlikely, though there is always the slimmer possibility she didn't know what she had been given. But surely its ok to explore these possibilities when she herself is talking about doping in cycling?

Why would Brailsford 'have a big part to play'? And having not read the book, does 'not saying one good word' translate as not mentioning him or actually slagging him off?

 

[Benotti69]

It is also a phrase for a medical programme. You know, medicine and stuff

EPO, HGH, Steroids are all known medicine's and stuff.

 

[JimmyFingers]

EPO, HGH, Steroids are all known medicine's and stuff.

S o is cough syrup. The point I'm driving it is infering doping from 'medical programme' is meaningless

 

[Benotti69]

S o is cough syrup. The point I'm driving it is infering doping from 'medical programme' is meaningless

Not in pro cycling it isn't. Plenty of evidence to suggest that. Bassons once said that cycling teams only have team doctors for 1 reason, Doping. He said he never needed the Doctor for performance and when he did need a doctor he would go to his GP.

 

[SundayRider]

S o is cough syrup. The point I'm driving it is infering doping from 'medical programme' is meaningless

Your being to literal, I think most people know that when the words 'medical and program' are used together in a cycling context the meaning is quite clear.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Your being to literal, I think most people know that when the words 'medical and program' are used together in a cycling context the meaning is quite clear.

Then a rider on a doping programme would certainly to refer to it as that when they are speaking to the press....

 

[JimmyFingers]

It's the cycling equivalent of doing a robbery dressed in a horizontally-striped shirt, a black mask over your eyes and carrying a large bag with 'SWAG' written on it

 

[coinneach]

Not in pro cycling it isn't. Plenty of evidence to suggest that. Bassons once said that cycling teams only have team doctors for 1 reason, Doping. He said he never needed the Doctor for performance and when he did need a doctor he would go to his GP.

Just re-read Matt Rendell's "The death of Marco Pantani" & the chapter on Blitz at the Giro in 2001 (when Barlalucci was detained & named) Rendell spoke with Pantani's team doctor Magnani in 05. "He (Magnani) had been pressured to treat riders with anti-inflammitory containing molecules used to treat arthritis, antioxidants used in hepatic disease. But Magnani wasn't at the Girofficial team doctors were used as fences by the doping doctors"

Makes me even more suspicious of Baralucci that he was there (albeit with a different team).
Is he still on Sky's books?

 

[sniper]

Just re-read Matt Rendell's "The death of Marco Pantani" & the chapter on Blitz at the Giro in 2001 (when Barlalucci was detained & named) Rendell spoke with Pantani's team doctor Magnani in 05. "He had been pressured to treat riders with anti-inflammitory containing molecules used to treat arthritis, antioxidants used in hepatic disease. But Magnani wasn't at the Girofficial team doctors were used as fences by the doping doctors"

Makes me even more suspicious of Baralucci that he was there (albeit with a different team).
Is he still on Sky's books?

this is a hihgly crucial, highly interesting, highly revealing bit you're citing here.