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You might be right DimSpace

Apologies for not picking up on the wry British style.
Sort of like French insouciance, easy to miss.
Let's hope it's all a tempest in a teapot.
Wiggo does seem to be a genuine and amiable guy.
 
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dimspace said:
never underestimate dave brailsford.. if he says they will win the tour in five years, they will win the tour in the next five years..

Be careful putting too much faith in the guy. The US had similar success in 1984. We were all excited about the success and thought we had reinvented the wheel.....until it turned out Eddie B was pulling a Fuentes in the Hotel room.
 
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he's taking the ****

I am part yank, mostly brit and this is Brad's slightly wierd sense of humour playing with the press.

He likes to feed them lines to be enigmatic.

He is a serious biker and if you look at the Sky lineup and the Garmin lineup seriously then the Man U/Wigan comparison doesnt stand up.

But if he says something like daft like the above then he gets his pic in Garmin colours on the BBC website - and you can't buy that.

Will still be interesting to see how this plays out though. Presumably Sky would buy him out then JV might have the money to get Contador - who as other posters have said, doesn't need a megabucks team around him to win. Everyone wins that way I think.

there were a few remarks about Yanks not getting Cav as well - actually that isnt a Brit sense of humour - that's just what you get from a 23 year old who is unbeatable and knows it. It's not very British to be that good http://forum.cyclingnews.com/images...forum.cyclingnews.com/images/smilies/wink.gif
 
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+1..... I felt the same way about this too. I mean, Evans says something cryptic on twitter and there are 2 threads about how he is a crybaby. Wiggins calls someone a cheat because they beat him, and everyone looks the other way. :rolleyes:

well said.....so where are the wiggo haters?
 
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I honestly cannot remember such an incredible amount of hype over a rider finishing 4th. Did this happen when Sastre was on the podium at the 2006 tour? What about when Kloden finished 2nd in the Tour?

They take out the Pyrenees saving Wiggo another 5 minutes he would have lost, he manages 4th and is now the hottest property on the market. Hilarious. He's had his moment it's downhill from here unless they take out the Alpes as well as the pyrenees next year.

I agree. I have my doubts he will ever improve on this "4th place". Depends on the nature of the course though, This year''s course allowed a weaker climber (who also had a strong TTT) to place high imo.

Obviously a lot of the hype has to do with him being brit tho.
 
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I had the misfortune of living in England for 3 years, I understand and even appreciate British humor. I do not however understand why Wiggens is trying to pretend he was misquoted, when it is clear on the tape the article was accurate.

Pretending not to know Phinney's name is funny, but the Man U/Wiggin line fell flat.

i dont think hes saying he was misquoted, hes saying it was B*****X...

brad is renowned taking the mickey.. some of his comments during the tour bordered on hilarious.. and he is rumoured in the peleton for being one of the funnier guys..

latest tweety things..

bradwiggins ******** in the sense it was said with the greatest affection, Wigan are a good side and certain people have taken it out of context! I could have used Ronaldo leaving ManU for Real, Rooney leaving Everton for ManU, Could have used a cow and a pig, horse and a pony???

bradwigginsI am now going down the pub!


got to say, i actually agree with his comments about larrson and the 1 minute intervals as well.. i was amazed when i saw it was only a minute.. ive never known that..
 
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just another entitled brit whinging like a sunt

he acts like team sky has some sort of rep like ManU

blame the bike when the motor stops in the tt you pussy
 
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Ok first of all I am/was a wiggo fan and in fact I was cheering him on this summer at Verbie and the grand st bernard. However the article that I was talking about has been changed. It originally said that he was going and did see a future with Garmin and calling Garmin a second rate team. Not cool! While he says he is joking, and I am well versed in British humor, how is it funny to equal Garmin to a second tier football team? I don't get it.

I understand that he will want to go too sky, fair enough. But don't be disrespectful to a team that helped you.
 
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Ok first of all I am/was a wiggo fan and in fact I was cheering him on this summer at Verbie and the grand st bernard. However the article that I was talking about has been changed. It originally said that he was going and did see a future with Garmin and calling Garmin a second rate team. Not cool! While he says he is joking, and I am well versed in British humor, how is it funny to equal Garmin to a second tier football team? I don't get it.

I understand that he will want to go too sky, fair enough. But don't be disrespectful to a team that helped you.

It wasn't the team, it was the gluten free diet. Just ask JV...
 
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I noticed something yesterday when watching the race on Universal Sports. All the riders had the national jerseys and on those jerseys they had the team they ride for on them. If Wiggins rides for Garmin, why did he have Sky on his jersey?
 
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dimspace said:
am i the only one whos sees nothing wrong with this article...?

he said he has no plans to leave the team, that he has a lot of love for garmin, that hes been happy there.. he then continues to say basically this tour made him realise perhaps he can challenge but to do that he would have to move to a bigger team, this is a fact, garmin dont have the strength and depth to support a potential tour winner... to win the tour he would have to take a step up... whats the big problem there, its true, and i dont think JV would deny it.. this is why hes so keen on contador, a guy who doesnt need support as opposed to signing riders to help one rider maybe podium...

i think this is another case of the non brits completely missing the british grammar and way of saying things.. we dont beat around the bush like some... for the same reason cav appears as brash, eddie irvine used to appear as arrogant (in f1)..

i personally see nothing whatsoever wrong with that article.. (and thats not being a fanboy.. its just analysing it so much)

edit: ive just watched the whole thing.. can nobody see the smile on his face from before he said it.. brad is stirring, stirring like he always does.. good god.. these foreigners really dont understand humour do ya...

I disagree with your thesis that Wiggins needs a better team to move up on the TdF podium. Wiggins didn't lose any time in the tour because of lack of support during the tour - he lost time because he was not as good as the others. If he cannot climb with the very best every single day, he won't do better than he's done.
 
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Ok first of all I am/was a wiggo fan and in fact I was cheering him on this summer at Verbie and the grand st bernard. However the article that I was talking about has been changed. It originally said that he was going and did see a future with Garmin and calling Garmin a second rate team. Not cool! While he says he is joking, and I am well versed in British humor, how is it funny to equal Garmin to a second tier football team? I don't get it.

I understand that he will want to go too sky, fair enough. But don't be disrespectful to a team that helped you.

ok thats being a bit harsh on wigan... very harsh in fact, they are a mid table premier league side.. they are no fools... we have 92 league clubs in england of which they are probably about 10th...
 
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If Wiggo is at Wigan, would that mean that Evans is at Hull?
Whichever 2nd rate team, he'll be playing in defence!

I haven't listened to the interview, but surley it must be a piss take?
Not defending Wiggins, as I'm indifferent; but that team reference.
In terms of GTs Garmin would be Man U and Sky would struggle to be Wigan.
If we on here know that, I'm pretty certain so does Brad.....
.....unless he is party to the names of those riders signed by Sky and as yet, undisclosed.
 
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ok thats being a bit harsh on wigan... very harsh in fact, they are a mid table premier league side.. they are no fools... we have 92 league clubs in england of which they are probably about 10th...

Maybe a bit harsh but I did say second tier not second division. And lets be honest they are not Liverpool, Man U or Chelsea or for that matter a team that is competing for the champions league which is the context he talked about Garmin in. The original article on VN I read, before they edited it was written is such a way that I understood that Wiggo was trashing Garmin. I like the Garmin team for a few reasons and don't think he is being fair even if it was tongue and cheek.

If Contador comes over that is another story and I think he should move on then and I'm sure JV would let him go in that case. It wouldn't be fair to have him and CVV ride in support of Contador.

I guess what ticks me off is that CVV busted a gut to help wiggo on one of the stages in particular. I thought that that was very impressive, almost heroic. So when I read the wigan reference I thought what a di*k

As far as a sense of humor goes, I live overseas and have friends from all over and many happen to be from the little island that once ruled the world (some Brits still think it does by the way) and I have no problem with Cav, and I'm a big fan, I don't find him brash or arrogant for a sprinter. If you can go 70 km an hour elbow to elbow with the best guys in the world you have to be a bit brash. The difference is you only hear praise about Cavs teammates from Cav.

I also disagree that the the "we dont beat around the bush like some... " the Australians are way ahead of you on that front I'm afraid:)
 
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I also disagree that the the "we dont beat around the bush like some... " the Australians are way ahead of you on that front I'm afraid:)

probably why some people find what robbie says from time to time a bit, erm, abrubt.. :D
 
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It wasn't the team, it was the gluten free diet. Just ask JV...

Maybe Sky has some other kind of diet that is even better than gluten-free?! Or maybe this topic needs to be in the clinic so we can discuss the real reason he doesn't think he can win with Garmin. Food for thought.....
 
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So now garmin are manchester united now? How so? Until the tail end of the season they had won ****** all! I am no fan of the shirt selling "club" from manchester but comparing garmin to them is insane. Sky are also not manu either though they have not done anything yet. Columbia are manU.
Garmin ARE wigan, a middle order team with not the biggest budget but make the most of what they have, no shame in that but they are not a top tier team. Amazing how americans seem to think they know anything about football:rolleyes: