No wonder Vos is winning everything

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Bavarianrider said:
Let's face it good looking girls just aren't into cycling.
The ratio of good looking to bad looking is much worse then in other sports.

Come again?

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happychappy said:
The roadies might be porkers but not the MTB women.

Yes, because Marta Bastianelli and Mara Abbott's eating disorders were such obvious evidence that 'roadies' are porkers. Because scrawny climbers like Sylwia Kapusta and Anna Sanchis aren't thin.

Wild may not be at peak fitness here, and may not be the finely toned muscle machine some may demand, but ultimately the toned, skinny delgadas of the world aren't going to be the ones in the big breakaway in the Tour of freaking Qatar, so they aren't going to be getting photographed.
 
Jan 27, 2012
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But then it would be in another forum ;)

I don't know. On one had do women really need more pressure about body image but on the other hand you rarely see fat pro male cyclists. Maybe it does speak on a lack of professionalism still in a young sport or maybe woman do need the extra weight for whatever reason.
 
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Ulle Relaxes said:
But then it would be in another forum ;)

I don't know. On one had do women really need more pressure about body image but on the other hand you rarely see fat pro male cyclists. Maybe it does speak on a lack of professionalism still in a young sport or maybe woman do need the extra weight for whatever reason.

Two points here:

1. A male pro can build a season around one event (e.g. the Tour) and focus on getting as skinny as possible for that. It's a level of fat that is not healthy and only sustainable for a few weeks. The ladies have to perform all season long and never really 'peak'.

2. Male cycling is far more competitive. There are lots of very matched riders, so every kilo counts. For the women, less so. That means that a couple of pounds here and there isn't really going to matter. If the men could get away with being less thin, they would.


I'd add (not as a response to anyone in particular), that the sexism in this thread by some is appalling. The only other field that has similar body fascism is the fashion industry - but at least they have excuse that they're mostly gay and are really attracted to 20 year old boys.
 
Libertine Seguros said:
but ultimately the toned, skinny delgadas of the world aren't going to be the ones in the big breakaway in the Tour of freaking Qatar, so they aren't going to be getting photographed.

Fair enough, but I don't see cyclists that look like KW in the men's field at Tour of Quatar. Maybe the Tour of Quatar for Clydesdales.
 
Mambo95 said:
Two points here:
I'd add (not as a response to anyone in particular), that the sexism in this thread by some is appalling.

This isn't about looking hot. It's about looking like you're a professional athlete in the sport in which you're competing. Showing up looking like you just went 12 rounds with the closest all-you-can-eat establishment isn't exactly "pro".
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
This isn't about looking hot. It's about looking like you're a professional athlete in the sport in which you're competing. Showing up looking like you just went 12 rounds with the closest all-you-can-eat establishment isn't exactly "pro".

I know it's not about looking hot. But girls naturally have more fat. A lot of this thread is 'look at those fat pigs, aren't they appalling'. And they're not. They're in decent shape and able to do their job just fine.

If you want them to starve themselves to unhealthy levels for a race then you're going to have to pay them a lot more money. The other option is to bully them and call them unprofessional.

There's been a history of eating disorders in cycling without the chauvanistic dinosaurs on display in this thread chiming in.

Some reading: http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/features/?id=2003/eatingdisorders1
http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/features.php?id=features/2003/eatingdisorders2
 
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Yeah let's not exaggerate. The women in the first two posts look 'average' (like a suburban house wife that's had a few children) not like contestants on the biggest loser.
 
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Ulle Relaxes said:
Yeah let's not exaggerate. The women in the first two posts look 'average' (like a suburban house wife that's had a few children) not like contestants on the biggest loser.

Pre-season CN style:

An overweight Contador wins: "Wow! Awesome! He says he's 5kg overweight. Imagine how brilliant he'll be when he loses it"

An overweight Wild wins: "Look at that fat biffa. What a disgrace. How unprofessional"

You're sexist pigs.
 
Mambo95 said:
Pre-season CN style:

An overweight Contador wins: "Wow! Awesome! He says he's 5kg overweight. Imagine how brilliant he'll be when he loses it"

An overweight Wild wins: "Look at that fat biffa. What a disgrace. How unprofessional"

You're sexist pigs.

Did you just compare Contador's "overweight" status with Wild's? Are you freaking serious right now?

Yeah, let's compare Contador with Wild. Good call, genius.
 

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Ulle Relaxes said:
Yeah let's not exaggerate. The women in the first two posts look 'average' (like a suburban house wife that's had a few children) not like contestants on the biggest loser.

Ulle, being called fat in the CN Forum is an honor.

Puts you in the same class as Jan and HWMNBN.
Two years ago we were posting pictures from Austalian Micky D's yum.

The ladies would consider the source and laugh it off.
"Bunch of salad tossing Alberto fanboys lol."
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
Did you just compare Contador's "overweight" status with Wild's? Are you freaking serious right now?

Yeah, let's compare Contador with Wild. Good call, genius.

Yes I am comparing the two. I may not be a genius, but I'm not a misogynist either. I'm not comparing the riders themselves (Wild is more like Greipel), merely the attitudes towards them.
 
Why dismiss a winner of a race?

It is hard to follow womens racing, so who knows how hard this desert encounter was. Would Wild have crushed Vos in a sprint? Hard to know. In any case womens cycling is still in its early days. It can go in the direction of Womens football or Cross Country. Who knows.
 
Mambo95 said:
Yes I am comparing the two. I may not be a genius, but I'm not a misogynist either. I'm not comparing the riders themselves (Wild is more like Greipel), merely the attitudes towards them.

There is nothing misogynistic about pointing out she's fat. If people say Contador is overweight, does that mean they're misanthropes?

Your comparison is silly. Contador isn't fat. He's over his racing weight. Wild is clearly fat. Nobody is saying she should look like Mara Abbott. The point is that she should look like a pro cyclist. Contador looks like pro cyclist. The argument applies equally to men and women. Salvatore Commesso looked like a tank too, but Wild is carrying it too far.
 
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I can sort of forgive the 'yeah yeah she's a bit of all right' that's gone in this thread because frankly we are animals that like sex.

As has touched on before women are physiologically obviously different to men (carry more fat around their waists etc, need a higher amount of body fat for their body to function properly etc).

I think we can all agree on is that women's cycling is 'young'. Some say it is not 'competitive' yet, others say it is not 'professional' yet but we generally mean the same thing. In any case unfortunately the incentives are not quite there yet which is a UCI problem.

I mean the problem with Contador being 'overweight' is that he still looks damn skinny. Maybe it's because I'm not attracted to men and less discerning when it comes to male body weight I can't tell the difference a couple of kilos here or there unlike when I admit to seeing a woman on the street and think to myself, 'Damn if she lost like 3.28 kgs she'd be amazing'.

Anyway when are the damn women of this forum going to defend womanhood and not leave it to enlightened or chivalrous (take your pick) men to defend them ;)
 
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Polish said:
Ulle, being called fat in the CN Forum is an honor.

Puts you in the same class as Jan and HWMNBN.
Two years ago we were posting pictures from Austalian Micky D's yum.

The ladies would consider the source and laugh it off.
"Bunch of salad tossing Alberto fanboys lol."
Your posting style is like haiku. I like it.
 
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Dazed and Confused said:
It is hard to follow womens racing, so who knows how hard this desert encounter was. Would Wild have crushed Vos in a sprint? Hard to know. In any case womens cycling is still in its early days. It can go in the direction of Womens football or Cross Country. Who knows.

Women's racing is hardly in it's early stage. There are some really fast, really talented female bike racers. The talent pool is very shallow. The body types described in this thread are made for flat, fast finishes. Trying to comapre the sexes on bikes is futile.

The US women's professional soccer(football) season was just canceled for the upcoming season . Men's pro soccer in the US is growing,slow but growing
 
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skidmark said:
That's embarrassing. He's ugly too. Men's cycling is a joke.

Wiggins doesn't look attractive but at least he looks like he has been putting the work in.
 
Mambo95 said:
Pre-season CN style:

An overweight Contador wins: "Wow! Awesome! He says he's 5kg overweight. Imagine how brilliant he'll be when he loses it"

An overweight Wild wins: "Look at that fat biffa. What a disgrace. How unprofessional"

You're sexist pigs.

Show a photo of contador's fat rolls around his waist and stomach at San Luis. Show a photo of his shorts cutting into his thighs like they're 3 sizes too small like you see in these pictures then your argument might have some credibility.

Crap, look at the GE rider in the picture beside her for crying out loud. That's what shorts look like on muscular legs as opposed to fat legs. Sexist schmexist, she's plainly significantly overweight. We're astonished because she's a pro cyclist, and that just ain't what you'd expect to see.