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Nordic Skiing/Biathlon Thread

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Not the smartest idea to have a teenager doing ski classics all season and keep skipping junior races. Good chance he burns out.
I mean, the debate last year that doing Vasaloppet would have been harmful for him because of hi young age was obviously BS, but Ski Classics specific training and all those races is clearly not the best way to develop the overall skills of a young talent.
 
I mean, the debate last year that doing Vasaloppet would have been harmful for him because of hi young age was obviously BS, but Ski Classics specific training and all those races is clearly not the best way to develop the overall skills of a young talent.

Obviously, Myhlback is a super talent, but his racing schedule and, consequently, the training program to compete in those races, continues to baffle me.
 
Oh yeah, doing that at such a young age all season long is clearly not beneficial when it comrles to develop him into a well rounded skier.
Sometimes I actually wonder what the team and trainers envision for Myhlback's future. If the goal is to develop him into a well-rounded skier with a long career, this seems like such a strange way to try to accomplish that. But I guess we'll see.
 
Since this is a cycling forum, some news about Winter Sport athetes in big cycling granfondos recently:
Best girl Lisa Vittozzi finished 4th in the short version of the Maratona dles Dolomites. Meanwhile Austrian Nordic Combined Start Lamparter raced the Ötztaler and finished 71., after being in the front group for most of the race. Austrian Ski Jumping legend Goldberger also raced the Ötztaler, but the guy also did lots of MTB upill races last Summer and even started the Crocodile Trophy before crashing out of the race. Probably still good enough to make Roglic his whipping boy. ;)
A bit more to add to this, as Slovene junior Lena Repinc won L'Étape Slovenia a couple of weeks ago. It's even more impressive when you realise that it's a pretty solid parcours especially considering what women's pros get to so, and Repinc hadn't in fact trained for it; instead one of her friends who was doing the event with his girlfriend asked her on short notice to fill in as his girlfriend had had to withdraw due to illness and she agreed; although they had tried to process the change this was not able to be done in time so Repinc entered using the other person's details thinking it would not be a problem since she was just entering ad hoc, so after she won the race and explained what had happened to the organisers she had to be removed from the results after the finish.

Now, Lena is hardly a rank amateur when it comes to cycling though, on the IBU's profile of her there's a picture of her atop the Passo Pordoi on her bike (sadly for me, in this same interview she also professes her fandom for Jessica Diggins which is greatly upsetting :laughing:); she's shown in the youth and junior (and at the European Championships among seniors as a 17-year-old; she's now 20) to be a crazy strong natural talent in biathlon. But competing for a smaller team with a lesser budget she's likely to hit against the development constraints that often hit young prospects that aren't from the biggest nations. If she does get disillusioned, she looks like she has plenty of potential from a cycling point of view.

Also, she's not very tall and is extremely skinny, so would certainly seem like she'd be a pretty useful climber if she put her mind to it.
 
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A bit more to add to this, as Slovene junior Lena Repinc won L'Étape Slovenia a couple of weeks ago. It's even more impressive when you realise that it's a pretty solid parcours especially considering what women's pros get to so, and Repinc hadn't in fact trained for it; instead one of her friends who was doing the event with his girlfriend asked her on short notice to fill in as his girlfriend had had to withdraw due to illness and she agreed; although they had tried to process the change this was not able to be done in time so Repinc entered using the other person's details thinking it would not be a problem since she was just entering ad hoc, so after she won the race and explained what had happened to the organisers she had to be removed from the results after the finish.

Now, Lena is hardly a rank amateur when it comes to cycling though, on the IBU's profile of her there's a picture of her atop the Passo Pordoi on her bike (sadly for me, in this same interview she also professes her fandom for Jessica Diggins which is greatly upsetting :laughing:); she's shown in the youth and junior (and at the European Championships among seniors as a 17-year-old; she's now 20) to be a crazy strong natural talent in biathlon. But competing for a smaller team with a lesser budget she's likely to hit against the development constraints that often hit young prospects that aren't from the biggest nations. If she does get disillusioned, she looks like she has plenty of potential from a cycling point of view.

Also, she's not very tall and is extremely skinny, so would certainly seem like she'd be a pretty useful climber if she put her mind to it.
Getting an early start on the Diggins sh*t I see. Trolls gotta stay sharp.
 
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Stort update from Sweden.

Elvira Öberg smashed everyone in her lastest, looks very strong. Her sister looks fine. Persson, Magnusson, Brorsson and Johansson seems to have all sorts of problem. Hopefully atleast Magnusson will compettive when season starts. Mens side looks like normal. Samuelsson, Nelin and Ponsilouma have had an ok summer training vise. Brandt and Stefansson looks promising (like they have done for a few years now).

For Cross Country not much to report - except the discussion threads about Alvar Myhlback in Swedish forums is starting to look the Remco-thread in this forum.
 
Stort update from Sweden.

Elvira Öberg smashed everyone in her lastest, looks very strong. Her sister looks fine. Persson, Magnusson, Brorsson and Johansson seems to have all sorts of problem. Hopefully atleast Magnusson will compettive when season starts. Mens side looks like normal. Samuelsson, Nelin and Ponsilouma have had an ok summer training vise. Brandt and Stefansson looks promising (like they have done for a few years now).

For Cross Country not much to report - except the discussion threads about Alvar Myhlback in Swedish forums is starting to look the Remco-thread in this forum.
In Italy 19 year Maria Gismondi old is the big breakthrough start of the roller ski season.
She won the world cup rollerski classic mass start race on the road up to Alpe Cermis (ahead of well established specialist Linn Soemskar) and won the Croce d'Aune uphill skating race (individual start) 52sec ahead of Francesca Franchi. She just turned 19 a few months ago and seems to have a great engine. She got a 2nd and a 4th place in the only 2 junior OPA cup distance races that she did last season (both individual starts).
 
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So distances in the world championchips in 2025 will be 10km and 20km instead of 15km and 30km. I thought they would at least keep the longer distances for the big events? This sport is getting more depressing by the day.

It’s ridiculous. Have they asked the athletes, you know, the people that are actually gonna take part in these events, what their opinions are?

FIS should worry about shallow fields, particularly in the women’s field, where last season there were many races that featured less than 50 women.

There are so many fails going on at FIS right now, from political bans, to smaller fields, to shortening the distances, to easier courses, to the monotonous calendar of races, to abandoning the skiathlon, less classic races, more mass starts…FIS just keeps destroying its own sport. We’ve discussed it here ad nauseam, i hate to keep harping on that.
 
It’s ridiculous. Have they asked the athletes, you know, the people that are actually gonna take part in these events, what their opinions are?

FIS should worry about shallow fields, particularly in the women’s field, where last season there were many races that featured less than 50 women.

There are so many fails going on at FIS right now, from political bans, to smaller fields, to shortening the distances, to easier courses, to the monotonous calendar of races, to abandoning the skiathlon, less classic races, more mass starts…FIS just keeps destroying its own sport. We’ve discussed it here ad nauseam, i hate to keep harping on that.
Fis is horrible when It comes to all of it's Sports.
 
As Trump would say, "lock her up!" I'm not surprised it happened in Norway as everything's so expensive there.
https://newsrnd.com/sports/2023-10-...-in-the-credit-card-fraud-case.HyjzRUSMp.html

According to the Dauphiné Libéré, Julia Simon was placed in police custody on Tuesday morning, October 24, in the offices of the Albertville search brigade. The biathlete is the subject of two complaints, filed in December 2022 and June 2023, by her comrade and Olympic champion Justine Braisaz-Bouchet, for facts dating back to the summer of 2022. Simon, winner of the 2023 Biathlon World Cup, is accused of credit card fraud. A case that shook the whole of French biathlon.
 
Does someone of you know wehere I can find a calender/(later results) of the Russian XC skiing series? I assume they`ll organize their own series again this winter, so there should be some sort of online presence.
Thanks in adavance!
Does someone of you know wehere I can find a calender/(later results) of the Russian XC skiing series? I assume they`ll organize their own series again this winter, so there should be some sort of online presence.
Thanks in adavance!

 
I know it's Alpine Skiing, but Yesterday the Norwegian Ranghild Mowinckel got DQed in the First Race of the season for having Fluor wax/Tracks of it on her Skis.

The Fis seems to do some proper controls. She isn't a small name either, 2 Olympics medals, 2 WC medals and 3 World Cup wins.
 
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So distances in the world championchips in 2025 will be 10km and 20km instead of 15km and 30km. I thought they would at least keep the longer distances for the big events? This sport is getting more depressing by the day.

Unless the Russians are allowed to come back, Klæbo will likely win 5 gold medals in his home Championships.

I have also just taken a look to the World Cup calendar next year and its really bad once again, only two races above 20km, only one individual start race above 10km and the only individual start in the Tour de Ski its a 10km classic once again.
 
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What about the 25km handicap pursuits? 😂🤣😂. What’s the point of those? To have everyone catch up to the leaders? They may as well have a mass start.

The Norwegians will dominate again, maybe not every single race, but a majority of them. At least when the Russians were there, there were competitive races where it was more or less split. Who is going to challenge the Norwegians race in and race out? FIS is also losing viewers. Their largest viewing market is out. They don’t seem to care though.
 
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What about the 25km handicap pursuits? 😂🤣😂. What’s the point of those? To have everyone catch up to the leaders? They may as well have a mass start.

The Norwegians will dominate again, maybe not every single race, but a majority of them. At least when the Russians were there, there were competitive races where it was more or less split. Who is going to challenge the Norwegians race in and race out? FIS is also losing viewers. Their largest viewing market is out. They don’t seem to care though.
Exactly. Really the only thing to shake up things a bit might be the waxing situation. There defintiely is some potential for drama there. But we will have to wait and see if the Fluor ban will have noticebale effects.
I am also curios to see if the rise of the Italians will contiune. I predicted that they will be competitive in Milano 2026. And there definitely was progress already last year. So that`s something I am intersted in. But besides that, it most likely will be total Norwegian domination this season on a pitifull short distance calender this season.
 
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