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Apparently, Tønseth did some unorthodox carb loading prep for the 25k, totally depleting all sugars the day before the race and was just a one shot cannon as it seems. They don’t think he could endure more than one race with those tactics and therefore Iversen is considered more stable. Idk..
regarding distance in relays, the women’s field is too weak to increase distance, the races would become even more lopsided and Norwegian skiers would win every time. The men should probably also shorten the distance to 7.5k as the level isn’t really as high as it used to be with Italy, Germany, Sweden and others being far weaker than before. Although, personally, I like the longer distances, but it’s just not as competitive.
 
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regarding distance in relays, the women’s field is too weak to increase distance, the races would become even more lopsided and Norwegian skiers would win every time. The men should probably also shorten the distance to 7.5k as the level isn’t really as high as it used to be with Italy, Germany, Sweden and others being far weaker than before. Although, personally, I like the longer distances, but it’s just not as competitive.

You are right. If even 4x5 km 3rd place team loses by 2 minutes, then what is going to happen in longer relays? No-one is bothered to watch borefests. That's why FIS is also planning to shorten men's relay, to bring some more close action to competition. Although 4x10 feels like a good old classic and it would be good if it remained that way.

Whatever people think of team sprint, I think it's a good thing. There are more nations that can find two competitive skiers, which means closer racing, and also there is a bit of a luck element, which increases the likelihood of surprise results. It's just that the course shouldn't be so easy that no-one wants to go downhill first like we saw in Seefeld.
 
He apparently had some stomach problems. Ce la vie.

Speaking of French. Congratulations France! Jouve kept his cool and delivered superbly. It's impressive how that team kept it together to give Jouve a chance in the last leg.
 
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Like I said he was destroyed in Ulricehamn just like this. Should've been Melnichenko in the third leg and Bolshunov in the anchor leg...

Yes but still in Ulricehamm it was in the post-Tour de Ski period, not in the World Championships. Although he is not in Lahti 2017 shape he was good in the sprint and in the skiathlon skating part so like ToreBear said he was probably a bit sick.
This also doesn't take away merit to the Norwegian team that did a great relay always in the front.
 
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Yea, I thought Ustiugov would be one of the key favourites for 50 km, but now I don't know. I assume Norwegians (assuming the likes of Sundby, Röthe, Krüger race) look good for that one.

As for women marathon, the battle is going to be for second, but it's tough choice.

I would be surprised if Karlsson had endurance to survive for 30 km and I suspect she may be a bit of a spent force after some impressive races.
Don't know, how well Andersson has recovered and how 30 km suits her.
Skating should suit Kalla, but she has never been particularly strong in 30 km, so not an obvious choice.
Norwegians Östberg, Weng, Jacobsen can all be in the mix. Based on championships so far Östberg looks the strongest, but we will see.
Among other nations Neprayeva and Pärmäkoski are obviously medal contenders.
Diggins hasn't been in good form this season. If she had the form she had last season, she would be a contender too.

One final note about relay - impressive for Kazakhstan to finish 7th without Poltoranin!

Russia has become a bit of a bridesmaid of the championship. Always second. At least Sweden has managed to win some golds. But breaking that duck for Russia looks increasingly difficult.
 

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Unfortunately I think johaug will be trying to prove something tomorrow and annihilate everyone. Probably very pissed about the relay. Race for other medals has good potential though.
 
As Tore said, Ustiugov had stomach problems and couldn't ski fast (per Markus Cramer, his coach). That's very unfortunate. The second major championship in a row that Ustiugov hasn't gotten anything out of, plus in 2014 he was part of that fall in the sprint final where Jonsson got a lucky bronze and in Falun he got sick the week before and wasn't at his best there. The medal today is really only down to the work his teammates did. Fortunate enough that Hyvarinen and Jouve decided to play cat and mouse on the final lap, because if they skied like a normal race, he may have been caught. First I hope that he get healthy. Probably shouldn't worry about the 50km, even if he's recovered. There are a number of Russians who only did one race so far and they will likely get their second and last shot on Sunday, guys like Belov, Maltsev, Melnichenko and Spitsov. Believe it or not, they are all capable of a medal if they are in good form, but who knows what form they are in now. Maybe one of those four, particularly the guys that have had stronger races in skate, Maltsev, Melnichenko and Spitsov could have skied in Ustiugov's place today. Hindsight is 20/20 and Ustiugov probably started getting sick this morning, and he didn't tell it to the coaches and obviously didn't want to Not start or drop out.

As far as the other three members, well, I think Bolshunov got on the best. He had good skis and skied well, making it a two man race and gave Ustiugov a much needed cushion to hold on to the silver, again, Finland and France playing the stupid game of cat and mouse helped a lot as well. Larkov said he wanted to go for it earlier but lost position on a descent and had to fight back just to get to the front. His skis were awful, it has to be said. Shades of the team sprint where both the men and women double poled what seemed like double the amount of the people around them. Bessmertnykh didn't have much better glide either, but whereas Larkov had good grip, Bessmertnykh had a tough time getting grip and skiing his normal, smooth diagonal stride and rhythm. The fact that he stuck with Niskanen and Sundby was impressive. They needed to try and gap the Norwegians in the first legs, but with those subpar skis, it was impossible. Iversen was the weakest link today, he struggled with grip as well, but unfortunately Russia and the other teams didn't take advantage of it.
 
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No Nepryaeva on the start list, and Weng has been replaced by Haga.

Oh well, and Kerttu Niskanen didn't really get going at all in the championships after winning the Cogne race. Illness I guess?
 
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No Nepryaeva on the start list, and Weng has been replaced by Haga.

Oh well, and Kerttu Niskanen didn't really get going at all in the championships after winning the Cogne race. Illness I guess?

Its too long for her and this way she can be fresher in the fight for the World Cup. Watch out for Sedova though.
Despite her shape being well below the same period last year, Haga is always a danger in freestyle.
I will go with Johaug/Oestberg/Kalla
 
If Austria takes anything positive out of this World Championships (I know, bad choice of words), it will be that Franz-Josef Rehrl is kicking all kinds of ass and the team looks healthier for dealing with the post-Gruber world than it ever did before as it still feels like they've never replaced Felix Gottwald.
 
Actively willing Diggins to fail just to shut the commentators up now. They're incredibly confused and adamant she must have had a slip or a fall every time somebody is moving ahead of her, failing to recognize that she's been dropping back on the big climbs and catching back up with the fact she has the best gliding skis of anybody out there ALL RACE LONG.

...and she has then been dropped like a bad habit by Østberg, and a wake is being held.
 
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Actively willing Diggins to fail just to shut the commentators up now. They're incredibly confused and adamant she must have had a slip or a fall every time somebody is moving ahead of her, failing to recognize that she's been dropping back on the big climbs and catching back up with the fact she has the best gliding skis of anybody out there ALL RACE LONG.

...and she has then been dropped like a bad habit by Østberg, and a wake is being held.

I hope the chasing group catch her, but it's hard to see that now. There is a lot of descending and her skis are saving her. Actually they've been saving her the entire race.
 

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Karlsson going home with 1 of each medal, i think she would have taken that. She is going to be winning a lot more over the coming years. Diggins ski technique should come with a parental advisory warning.
 
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Good race for second place. Karlsson has surprised me yet again. It's scary to think, how good she might be in the future though if she is that good already as a teenager. Clearly the hopes of someone truly taking on Johaug in the next few years rest on her. Good effort by Diggins, but not enough to save a medal to US from the championships.

About dominance the only thing I would say that it is not good for the sport in general. Plenty of countries like Germany, Italy, Czechia have thrown in the towel already. Nobody cares any more.

So far in the championships only 2 countries have won XC golds - Norway 9, Sweden 2. It's fewer countries than what has been in the past. Russia has been second in almost every men discipline. The competition keeps shrinking. I would think even Norwegians are getting bored of repetition.