OCLAESP raid in France

May 26, 2010
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wonder did that come about from the recent meeting of the various bodies including Novitsky and maybe pooled information?
 
Race Radio said:
This is old news. A waste of taxpayer funds. Nothing more then a witchhunt
Ooh goody goody, what has the anti-doping fairy brought us this time? Another Oktos-Cofidis, maybe?

Well, if it isn't just a lot of hot air and procedural incompetence, we should get to know within 48 hours - that's the maximum allowed for detainment pending charges in France - although back in 2004, certain people cracked within the first 24.

Can't wait to see what they shake out of this one - it could be Christmas come early! :p
 
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Race Radio said:
This is old news. A waste of taxpayer funds. Nothing more then a witchhunt
Well you know how the French are . . .

This would never happen in a fine upstanding country like America.

:p ;)
 
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Benotti69 said:
wonder did that come about from the recent meeting of the various bodies including Novitsky and maybe pooled information?
It might very well be since the drugs probably came from North/South America.

Although, I would think that if someone imported drugs to Europe it would be easiest through Eastern Europe. If they had to bring it over the Atlantic then Spain comes first to my mind. But maybe the laws regarding drug trafficking are as tight in Spain as in France even though the athletes aren't treated equally so that it's the same risk to smuggle doping products through France as through Spain.

BTW
I've always found it funny that people take it for granted that French riders don't dope any more....
 
RdBiker said:
... I would think that if someone imported drugs to Europe it would be easiest through Eastern Europe ...
In Oktos-Cofidis, the connection was Poland. Not sure about whether there was another, more remote source but there were doctors and pharmacists involved in both Poland and France.
 
I thought the French were clean, which is why they haven't won the Tour in so long? :p

I will say this-if this latest bust had anything to do with the Interpol pow-wow, this could get very interesting indeed.
 
Berzin said:
I thought the French were clean, which is why they haven't won the Tour in so long? :p

I will say this-if this latest bust had anything to do with the Interpol pow-wow, this could get very interesting indeed.
Might be a good time to wash the old cycling jersey, there could be a lot of recruiting going on soon :D
 
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Impossible, the french are clean. I assume the raid was on a town with a large spanish, and italian population.
 
TeamSkyFans said:
Impossible, the french are clean. I assume the raid was on a town with a large spanish, and italian population.
"The French" are not all clean - I think that is a certainty.

Are the French "cleaner" than other nation's pros? There is definately an anti-doping mentality on a lot of teams which bodes well.
 
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Another news source has verified that ten people are in custody.

http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/actualite/societe/20101201.FAP1817/calvados-un-trafic-de-produits-dopants-demantele.html

Le Figaro is calling it a two day "wave", and there have been arrests.
These custody were held as part of a criminal investigation for "multiple violations of the legislation on doping products and poisons," said Ms. Denis. Le parquet s'est refusé à plus de commentaires dans cette affaire dont l'instruction est en cours.
http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2010/12/01/97001-20101201FILWWW00518-coup-de-filet-dans-le-cyclisme-a-caen.php
 
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Well its not who I was initially hoping when I saw the press reports. They live in Grenoble.. Never mind. Maybe next time.
 
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Zinoviev Letter said:
I wonder if the information that the raids took place in "North West France" (according to l'Equipe) has any particular significance?

I'd always thought that the French teams tended to be based in the South of the country?
Caen does seem a bit out of the way
 
Zinoviev Letter said:
I wonder if the information that the raids took place in "North West France" (according to l'Equipe) has any particular significance?

I'd always thought that the French teams tended to be based in the South of the country?
Normandy is one of France's cycling heartlands. Thierry Marie, Jacques Anquetil, Amaël Moinard, Mikaël Chérel, Lloyd Mondory, Jerome Pineau, Anthony Geslin (only ones I could think of offhand).
 
L'arriviste said:
Normandy is one of France's cycling heartlands. Thierry Marie, Jacques Anquetil, Amaël Moinard (only ones I could think of offhand).
Well, yes historically. But aren't the main French teams based in the South these days?

Ag2r are in the South East, Bbox are in the South West. Where are Cofidis, Saur and the rest based?

I'm not suggesting that no cyclist would travel for dope, obviously, just that Caen is a slightly surprising place to be raiding.

(edited to add: Cofidis apparently were based in the North and may still be, but even their old HQ in Wasquehal was a long way from Caen).
 
Zinoviev Letter said:
Well, yes historically. But aren't the main French teams based in the South these days?

Ag2r are in the South East, Bbox are in the South West. Where are Cofidis, Saur and the rest based?

I'm not suggesting that no cyclist would travel for dope, obviously, just that Caen is an odd place to be raiding.
If it's anything like Oktos-Cofidis (the lovely cathedral town of St Quentin - a bit off the beaten track too) - and this is pure conjecture, of course - the action could centre on an amateur-feeder club (of which there are one or two main ones in that region, I think) that supplies up through the pros.
 

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