Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[sittingbison]

chewie posts moved to chewie thread as requested:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=21931

cheers
bison

 

[DirtyWorks]

Had I only heeded your advice long ago we'd be the ones who opened up a hotel

Dr. Maserati, the 50K was just loose cash lying around. Had the money from the pushing and enforcing until wonderboy took over. Come on get with the program, doc. No pun intended

C'mon now Betsy we ALL KNOW you were the shrew running a global drug dealing program.

Some dude who doped a whole career and defended the fraud said so like a bolt of lightning out of the clear blue sky. And I believe him.

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Wonderboy can easily lie some more in the next depo because the arbitration system is apparently little more than theater. I see manufactured delays coming. Which is okay. More legal bills for Wonderboy. Fight Wonderboy!

The lawyers reading might know the chances that we hear from Bill Stapleton??? He's another guy that has gotten off Scott free.

 

[Archibald]

Disagree completely. He could have just shut his fu*king mouth, and not aggressively pursued every person he felt besmirched him. He was/is an idiot.

this

5 - 10...

 

[86TDFWinner]

Why settle for anything less then $12,000,000?

Why settle for anything less then full boat? If he goes to the panel he will just lose, have to give a depo under oath, and have to pay legal fees. It would be great that if at the depo SCA shows up with a new Paralegal......a fat housewife from Michigan

Better call Chewy

We all know it'll never get to the point of Wonderboy having to be deposed or testifying. IMO, he'll wait till a day or 3 before the hearing and then "suddenly" settle for what they want, he doesn't want to testify, as he knows he purgered himself.

 

[86TDFWinner]

Originally Posted by Benotti69 View Post
https://abccommercial.com/contentsal...rmstrong-story

Looks great, when is it out?

 

[Benotti69]

Lance is quoted as saying, "They want $125 million. I don't have $125 million." If so, there can't be a settlement.

Weisel has the money and might want to avoid being dragged into this if Armstrong testifies against him

 

[Benotti69]

Looks great, when is it out?

Cant see a release date for it.

 

[Freddythefrog]

Don't kick a man when hs is down !

Lance wins one (or did I miss it earlier in the thread ?)
http://www.pnj.com/usatoday/article/5840623

 

[86TDFWinner]

Cant see a release date for it.

Yeah, Couldn't find one either. Thought you may have some sort of "inside scoop" as to its release date.

 

[elizab]

Yeah, Couldn't find one either. Thought you may have some sort of "inside scoop" as to its release date.

They are working on that.
note: we weren't paid a dime for being interviewed

 

[Race Radio]

One more point on the SCA case. Prior to yesterday's ruling SCA were asking for $12,000,000.......now they are asking for $15,000,000

Tim Herman just cost Lance $3,000,000

 

[Scott SoCal]

A settlement doesn't necessarily mean paying the Fed's price. If Lance can deliver cash on the barrelhead, I'd suspect that he could get a discount.

If the Feds get a judgment for more money than Lance can command, then Lance would be insolvent with no reasonable future prospects for paying off the debt. That potential future might also motivate a discount.

The feds may have substantial litigation expenses. That may also motivate a discount.

A lot of factors are in play.

It's a civil action. They can make him insolvent (take everything he has) and lien him for anything he might ever make until the awarded amount is met. Think OJ Simpson v Goldman and Brown Families.

Only tax qualified monies would be untouchable. If the Feds win they will likely ruin Lance now and the next couple of decades or more.

 

[ScienceIsCool]

In one of the articles I read, it said that he was being represented by Zia Modabber and not Tim Herman. I've never heard of Modabber, so I looked him up. Apparently he represented Michael Jackson for a while, but was fired for incompetence... So what's up with Lance's new counsel? Did he ditch Herman? Is Modabber cheaper by the hour?

John Swanson

 

[Berzin]

A few thoughts-

1) No one has asked Armstrong what he thought of poisoning his body with PED's after his cancer diagnosis. It doesn't seem to enter into his thought process, yet it seems an important question that deserves clarification.

If he was so willing to play with his health in such an extreme fashion, it's no wonder he was so vindictive and cruel to people he considered his enemies.

2) The silence from Chris Carmichael and Bob Roll has been rather deafening.

3) The contention that he would have gotten away with it had he not come back in 2009 is rather dubious. His comeback was just part of a bunch of dominoes that fell into place at the worst possible time for him.

If Landis had been offered a job by Bruyneel or if Armstrong had helped him find a place with a continental pro team, there was still the matter of Tyler Hamilton, who I believe was always going to publish his book, eventually opening up the can of worms that we refer to as "The Armstrong Lie".

Who knows if Hamilton would have been taken as seriously or if he would have been marginalized out of existence if Floyd had not dropped his bombshell first. On it's own "The Secret Race" is still a pretty damning picture of the culture of doping that existed at the time, but it's gravitas definitely increased due to the Landis allegations.

 

[Race Radio]

In one of the articles I read, it said that he was being represented by Zia Modabber and not Tim Herman. I've never heard of Modabber, so I looked him up. Apparently he represented Michael Jackson for a while, but was fired for incompetence... So what's up with Lance's new counsel? Did he ditch Herman? Is Modabber cheaper by the hour?

John Swanson

Zia is a long time groupie. Was Hincapie's lawyer for a while but George let him go once he figured out lying to the Feds was not an option. His primary focus for Lance was that goofy class action suit that had no chance. Funny thing, he is also good friends with the producer of "The Armstrong Lie"

Tim Herman's role has been reduced significantly......far too late, should have stopped listening to him years ago

 

[Scott SoCal]

A few thoughts-

1) No one has asked Armstrong what he thought of poisoning his body with PED's after his cancer diagnosis. It doesn't seem to enter into his thought process, yet it seems an important question that deserves clarification.

If he was so willing to play with his health in such an extreme fashion, it's no wonder he was so vindictive and cruel to people he considered his enemies.

2) The silence from Chris Carmichael and Bob Roll has been rather deafening.

3) The contention that he would have gotten away with it had he not come back in 2009 is rather dubious. His comeback was just part of a bunch of dominoes that fell into place at the worst possible time for him.

If Landis had been offered a job by Bruyneel or if Armstrong had helped him find a place with a continental pro team, there was still the matter of Tyler Hamilton, who I believe was always going to publish his book, eventually opening up the can of worms that we refer to as "The Armstrong Lie".

Who knows if Hamilton would have been taken as seriously or if he would have been marginalized out of existence if Floyd had not dropped his bombshell first. On it's own "The Secret Race" is still a pretty damning picture of the culture of doping that existed at the time, but it's gravitas definitely increased due to the Landis allegations.

My opinion, but Hamilton has zero credibility and even more important, zero platform if Landis doesn't blow the lid off.

Additionally, Landis maybe isn't as furious with Lance and JB if Lance just sticks to golf after his first retirement.

I'm of the opinion that LA totally screwed the pooch coming out (for a ton of money) of retirement. To me, THAT was the height of his hubris.

 

[Stingray34]

Forget 'The Armstrong Lie' and the forthcoming LA biopic; the definitive Lance film will be 'Blue Jasmine.'

 

[Stingray34]

The guy used to run on EPO and HgH. Soon it will be Stoli and Xanax.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Zia is a long time groupie. Was Hincapie's lawyer for a while but George let him go once he figured out lying to the Feds was not an option. His primary focus for Lance was that goofy class action suit that had no chance. Funny thing, he is also good friends with the producer of "The Armstrong Lie"

Tim Herman's role has been reduced significantly......far too late, should have stopped listening to him years ago

Tim Herman has committed to defending Lance right up until his last cent.

 

[mewmewmew13]

My opinion, but Hamilton has zero credibility and even more important, zero platform if Landis doesn't blow the lid off.

Additionally, Landis maybe isn't as furious with Lance and JB if Lance just sticks to golf after his first retirement.

I'm of the opinion that LA totally screwed the pooch coming out (for a ton of money) of retirement. To me, THAT was the height of his hubris.

With Lance I still think the adoration and relevance he craved was even bigger than his greed.

 

[Stingray34]

Tim Herman has committed to defending Lance right up until his last cent.

That's true, if by last cent he actually means last 2 million.

 

[DirtyWorks]

It's a civil action. They can make him insolvent (take everything he has) and lien him for anything he might ever make until the awarded amount is met. Think OJ Simpson v Goldman and Brown Families.

Only tax qualified monies would be untouchable. If the Feds win they will likely ruin Lance now and the next couple of decades or more.

Any action will not take his savings to zero. The courts, in practice, never do. There are State protections, and only Armstrong knows where and how many different ways substantial wealth is hidden.

Unfortunately, we will never see him being an Oakley rep selling sunglasses. I know I'd hire him for sales, but I'd constantly worry about the guy selling my business out from under me.

 

[Oldman]

Weisel has the money and might want to avoid being dragged into this if Armstrong testifies against him

My thoughts exactly. I'm going to reset my Fraud Announcement Calendar to include Thursdays....it all used to be so simple.

 

[Oldman]

Any action will not take his savings to zero. The courts, in practice, never do. There are State protections, and only Armstrong knows where and how many different ways substantial wealth is hidden.

Unfortunately, we will never see him being an Oakley rep selling sunglasses. I know I'd hire him for sales, but I'd constantly worry about the guy selling my business out from under me.

All of these things were foretold...disclosure, denial, Oprah, "reconciliations", more denial. I feel strongly he'll be elbowing Pete Rose for table space in the Caesar's Palace Forum Shops sport memorabilia location.
I'll pay him to sign my book....

 

[DirtyWorks]

All of these things were foretold...disclosure, denial, Oprah, "reconciliations", more denial. I feel strongly he'll be elbowing Pete Rose for table space in the Caesar's Palace Forum Shops sport memorabilia location.
I'll pay him to sign my book....

Which, BTW grosses Rose over $1 million USD. The good news is Wonderboy was a cyclist, so no sports memorabillia (sp???) show would be interested.

He could be a shop geek at MJ's. He'd hate it, he'd hate the customers and discover that bike shops live on pennies per dollar profit.