Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[RobbieCanuck]

Granville57

Oh God, No. NO. NO. NO. NO NO
Oh God, Yes.
Please? Please? Please?
Oh God, No. NO. NO. NO. NO NO

Great post. Until I saw the name Dave I thought you were mimicking my girlfriend!

 

[blackcat]

We could have an intelligent conversation about the value of the sponsorship, but this isn't going in that direction.

What eleven is saying is not sound, as eleven has applied the term 'diminishing returns' to the entire future value. If what you are suggesting is the intent (and I have noted the same in my previous post), then this is only one portion of the calculation of the value.

the contract, and inputs into the delivery of the contract, had been exhausted. yes, i appreciate this. i appreciate Eleven is making a point on after this contract has been delivered, so i see how can there be a deminishing return.

the contract was delivered, with the implied residual benefit in the contract. these residuals have a value and are fungible in negotiation of original contract.

lets forget that USPS may have signed another two contracts after the original for the sake of this residual benefit.

why USPS and the bizness benefit? why the Joffrey ballet in Houston, v Tony Cruz riding parking lot crits and Triple Crown. spose Wiesel got into them with small talk and gladhanding in washington. and symbiosis of delivery men on pushies and parking lot races. as if the banks and telcos who can afford to sponsor cycling on the continent, the continent banks and telcos that is, are all that picky about the quality of their billion impressions and if their impressions create leads or retail contract. it was cycling or buying naming rights to sports stadia, like livestrong did in stlouis or wherever. so we never saw frankie or george or lance ride stateside. and the joffrey never got the money nor MoMA.

 

[MacRoadie]

...that USPS laid out millions for that positive glow

Oh, they laid out millions for a glow alright...

 

[blackcat]

Oh, they laid out millions for a glow alright...

but not the drug glow.

good question is how would Festina go with the same decision, and how many more units did they turnover in the immediate years after 98. Did they continue for one or two more years before they did not take up the option to recontract? anecdotally, was said their sales turnover went up. ceteris paribus up, all things being equal, it went up after 98

 

[Energy Starr]

great post. Until i saw the name dave i thought you were mimicking my girlfriend!

best post in the history of the forUm.....site....hell internet!!!

I don't care who you are, that sh!t is funny!!!

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Yayy another book on the lance

The Race to Truth: Blowing the whistle on Lance Armstrong and cycling's doping culture [Kindle Edition]

http://www.amazon.com/Race-Truth-Bl...=1403893673&sr=8-1&keywords=the+race+to+truth


or

http://www.amazon.it/The-Race-Truth...tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1403893897&sr=8-1

or uk
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Race-Truth-Armstrong-cyclings/dp/0593074068

 

[Zam_Olyas]

RR, i remember you talk about the use of hemassist and how disturbed you were do you know why it never came out?

 

[DirtyWorks]

RR, i remember you talk about the use of hemassist and how disturbed you were do you know why it never came out?

It was good anti-doping practices.

The less doping controversy, the better.

 

[the sceptic]

Price asked Armstrong if what had happened to him was worth it, and necessary for the good of the sport.

“That’s a great question,” Armstrong replied evenly, “and one that I ask myself every day. My answer is not a popular one. My answer is that it wasn’t worth it.

“I can look at what it’s done to our sport, I look at how teams and sponsors are fleeing, events are folding, participation is down,” Armstrong said. “It all stems from choices I made. But with all due respect, [the USADA investigation] was not an effort to clean up cycling. Because in order to do that you have to truly take a global view and a global look at this thing, and a global commission has to do it, which I think we’ve started to do now.”

Read more at http://velonews.competitor.com/2014...ion-helped-cycling_333679#xSYl4WjkqUbKWV2G.99

Lance obviously wishes he never got busted, but I have to agree with him that cycling isnt any better now than it was 10 years ago. Doping didnt begin and end with Lance.

What I dont get is why Scott Mercier seems to have a crush on him.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Lance obviously wishes he never got busted, but I have to agree with him that cycling isnt any better now than it was 10 years ago. Doping didnt begin and end with Lance.

This is all true. But, then what happens is Wonderboy uses it like a wedge and dumps lie after lie after lie on top of it. It's a kind of manipulation that is just awesome if it wasn't so terrible.

Let Mercier be. It is the honeymoon phase. He'll be an ex-friend soon enough because that's how Lance works.

 

[mewmewmew13]

This is all true. But, then what happens is Wonderboy uses it like a wedge and dumps lie after lie after lie on top of it. It's a kind of manipulation that is just awesome if it wasn't so terrible.

Let Mercier be. It is the honeymoon phase. He'll be an ex-friend soon enough because that's how Lance works.

lol excellent and true advice DW
as JV or Tyler says..can't remember who.."something always goes haywire" with those that Lance befriends..

wait or was it TexPat?? I sure miss him..

 

[86TDFWinner]

This is all true. But, then what happens is Wonderboy uses it like a wedge and dumps lie after lie after lie on top of it. It's a kind of manipulation that is just awesome if it wasn't so terrible.

Let Mercier be. It is the honeymoon phase. He'll be an ex-friend soon enough because that's how Lance works.

This. 100% true.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Lance obviously wishes he never got busted, but I have to agree with him that cycling isnt any better now than it was 10 years ago. Doping didnt begin and end with Lance.

What I dont get is why Scott Mercier seems to have a crush on him.

There's a technical term for a man like Armstrong: Fu(kwit.

 

[Bosco10]

Lance obviously wishes he never got busted, but I have to agree with him that cycling isnt any better now than it was 10 years ago. Doping didnt begin and end with Lance.

What I dont get is why Scott Mercier seems to have a crush on him.

Here's the video FWIW:
http://youtu.be/NYVZbcnAtyU

 

[noddy69]

Here's the video FWIW:
http://youtu.be/NYVZbcnAtyU

I actually think where Lance states that Scott had his degree to fall back on others didn't so decided to stay and fight is the most honest I have heard him. He just says I cheated, it was part of the time and I did it......took his sweet time but decent to hear it with no fake tears, nothing attached just an assessment of what he did.....I'm not saying he is great for doing it but at least he is doing it now...........however his attitude to was it good for cycling is still bolo*x

 

[Benotti69]

I actually think where Lance states that Scott had his degree to fall back on others didn't so decided to stay and fight is the most honest I have heard him. He just says I cheated, it was part of the time and I did it......took his sweet time but decent to hear it with no fake tears, nothing attached just an assessment of what he did.....I'm not saying he is great for doing it but at least he is doing it now...........however his attitude to was it good for cycling is still bolo*x

What Lance is forgetting, conveniently, is while he and his team doped the cards were stacked in his favour as he had the UCI in his back pocket. Yeah he doped but he took it to levels not seen in the sport. 7tdfs in a row and he never looked like he was going lose any of them!

No Lance was not just another doper in a sport full of it. Lance was 'the' doper of the sport.

There are plenty of jobs in society that dont require a college degree and are honourable and respectable. Dont remember Bassons having a degree, Obree neither.

Again Armstrong trying to paint himself as unfairly treated. How many other guys retired from the sport with a fortune in excess of 100million$? How many other riders had learjets?

Armstrong had his chance to do good for the sport and talk to Tygart. He thought he was too big to fall. F##K him!

 

[Bosco10]

Bill Gates ain't never got his degree neither.

 

[BYOP88]

Bill Gates ain't never got his degree neither.

Maybe he should've then Microsoft might be better.

 

[Alpe73]

He thought he was too big to fall. F##K him!

You and Foamy still confused and deeply bothered by Small & Tall.

 

[mewmewmew13]

What Lance is forgetting, conveniently, is while he and his team doped the cards were stacked in his favour as he had the UCI in his back pocket. Yeah he doped but he took it to levels not seen in the sport. 7tdfs in a row and he never looked like he was going lose any of them!

No Lance was not just another doper in a sport full of it. Lance was 'the' doper of the sport.

There are plenty of jobs in society that dont require a college degree and are honourable and respectable. Dont remember Bassons having a degree, Obree neither.

Again Armstrong trying to paint himself as unfairly treated. How many other guys retired from the sport with a fortune in excess of 100million$? How many other riders had learjets?

Armstrong had his chance to do good for the sport and talk to Tygart. He thought he was too big to fall. F##K him!

Very good post Benna

 

[gooner]

Lance wrote the foreword for Emma's new book.

Armstrong’s foreword reflects Ms O’Reilly’s belief that he should not take the sole blame for a problem that was endemic in professional cycling long before he arrived on the scene.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/irelan...foreword-for-whistleblowers-book-273876.html?

 

[Stingray34]

On Australia's ABC1 channel, The 5-star rated, 'Stop at Nothing: The Lance Armstrong Story,' is broadcast at 8.30pmEST on Wednesday, July 2.

Apparently, Armstrong is openly labelled a sociopath in the doco.

If some posters with some technical nous can rip of find a way around the inevitable geo-block, I think it will be greatly appreciated.

Doubt there will be anything new, but the the preview I saw had no-nothings openly condemn the guy. The worm has well and truly turned.

 

[gooner]

On Australia's ABC1 channel, The 5-star rated, 'Stop at Nothing: The Lance Armstrong Story,' is broadcast at 8.30pmEST on Wednesday, July 2.

Apparently, Armstrong is openly labelled a sociopath in the doco.

If some posters with some technical nous can rip of find a way around the inevitable geo-block, I think it will be greatly appreciated.

Doubt there will be anything new, but the the preview I saw had no-nothings openly condemn the guy. The worm has well and truly turned.

It's on BBC4 in the UK/Ireland this Sunday 9.00pm.

Supposed to be much better than The Armstrong Lie.

 

[Race Radio]

It's on BBC4 in the UK/Ireland this Sunday 9.00pm.

Supposed to be much better than The Armstrong Lie.

I have seen it, very good flick. Paints a much darker picture then other documentaries. Not much will new but still good movie

 

[86TDFWinner]

You guys/gals are really going to like this. Looks like everyone's favorite Weisel, found a way to "weasel" hmself out of the Wonderboy case. He skates AGAIN.


http://www.marinij.com/marinnews/ci_26018378/ross-resident-thomas-weisel-no-longer-part-case