Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[peloton]

Good post Race!

Very disappointing.
(And good post Race)

 

[Race Radio]

Very disappointing.
(And good post Race)

The story behind it is kinda funny. Some reporters were in town, from Rouleur IIRC, and they were spending the day with lance. Part of it included motorpacing TVG. Great way to show the world that everyone is fine with him, even the new generation.

 

[peloton]

The story behind it is kinda funny. Some reporters were in town, from Rouleur IIRC, and they were spending the day with lance. Part of it included motorpacing TVG. Great way to show the world that everyone is fine with him, even the new generation.

Go figure.
Another media stunt, too bad Tejay got dragged into it.

The Toxic Texan. Wish he'd at least wait until his court cases are over before doing things like this.

 

[MonkeyFace]

a cursory reading of Armstrong is the man is driven by conflict and the bellicose is the raison d'etre and this is the real, the authentic athlete more than the bike.

bike as cypher. sport as platform.

Thank you. You described Armstrong to a T. That and every other ******* that needs conflict to breath.

 

[mewmewmew13]

The story behind it is kinda funny. Some reporters were in town, from Rouleur IIRC, and they were spending the day with lance. Part of it included motorpacing TVG. Great way to show the world that everyone is fine with him, even the new generation.

This was during the ProChallenge was it not? ..it disappoints me greatly..
TJVG should have know better...obviously he does not.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Go figure.
Another media stunt, too bad Tejay got dragged into it.

The Toxic Texan. Wish he'd at least wait until his court cases are over before doing things like this.

\
TJ not the smartest knife in the light bulb drawer.

 

[Berzin]

You would think that he could connect those dots, but apparently not. I really can't understand why he just doesn't write a few cheques and move on. This crap could go on forever with appeals delays etc....

Have you ever been around someone with Armstrong's type of personality disorder?

What you are witnessing from him is EXACTLY what it's like. His arrogance and sense of entitlement will not let him take a pragmatic long view of his situation.

He couldn't show contrition if was given a script to read.

 

[blackcat]

Have you ever been around someone with Armstrong's type of personality disorder?

What you are witnessing from him is EXACTLY what it's like. His arrogance and sense of entitlement will not let him take a pragmatic long view of his situation.

He couldn't show contrition if was given a script to read.

This is Armstrong's Tour de France, and his July year round. It gives him meaning and his outlet for this verve and pugnacious personality. So, he is banned from Ironman and Kona, he can still have his competition off bike.

On multiple levels, financial, stress, harangue public interrogation, this is unpleasant. But on a dissonant level, this fuels Armstrong and he also enjoys it. I am not sure he former wife and current wife do, and I am sure his children suffer for it, but if Armstrong cannot win Kona, please god give him a civil suit to fight. And he doesnt even care if the Feds get their hands on Och's USB Zurich accts of his, or his conspicuous modern art collection? American Gothic anyone?

nah, Armstrong likes this. What else was he gonna do. He was never gonna drink beer, win 7 Kona (I think the plural of kona is kona) and diddle groupies 24-7 even if the groupies hung around.

Anyway, I am sure Och has done his job well and hidden enough in USB anon accts in Zurich. He works for Rihs now.


*this may or may not be, partly apocryphal, will liberal doses of non-artistic prosaic licence and plebeian in extremis

 

[MarkvW]

This is Armstrong's Tour de France, and his July year round. It gives him meaning and his outlet for this verve and pugnacious personality. So, he is banned from Ironman and Kona, he can still have his competition off bike.

On multiple levels, financial, stress, harangue public interrogation, this is unpleasant. But on a dissonant level, this fuels Armstrong and he also enjoys it. I am not sure he former wife and current wife do, and I am sure his children suffer for it, but if Armstrong cannot win Kona, please god give him a civil suit to fight. And he doesnt even care if the Feds get their hands on Och's USB Zurich accts of his, or his conspicuous modern art collection? American Gothic anyone?

nah, Armstrong likes this. What else was he gonna do. He was never gonna drink beer, win 7 Kona (I think the plural of kona is kona) and diddle groupies 24-7 even if the groupies hung around.

Anyway, I am sure Och has done his job well and hidden enough in USB anon accts in Zurich. He works for Rihs now.


*this may or may not be, partly apocryphal, will liberal doses of non-artistic prosaic licence and plebeian in extremis

I don't think that a civil lawsuit stokes Armstrong's combativeness. He probably finds the entire process entirely frustrating and enormously expensive. It probably makes him feel quite impotent because he must entirely depend upon the discretion and judgment of others to defend this lawsuit. He just passively asks and answers lawyers' questions as his money hemorrhages out the door.

Lance has settled disputes in the past. He's already settled with one insurer, his other sponsors, and the Times. Why isn't he settling this one? Combativeness doesn't seem a satisfactory explanation, given his prior willingness to settle. A better explanation (although also maybe not the correct one) is that Lance cannot afford to settle. There's also the dynamic that Lance doesn't want to have Floyd defeat him--more stubbornness than combativeness.

 

[Archibald]

I don't think that a civil lawsuit stokes Armstrong's combativeness. He probably finds the entire process entirely frustrating and enormously expensive. It probably makes him feel quite impotent because he must entirely depend upon the discretion and judgment of others to defend this lawsuit. He just passively asks and answers lawyers' questions as his money hemorrhages out the door.

Lance has settled disputes in the past. He's already settled with one insurer, his other sponsors, and the Times. Why isn't he settling this one? Combativeness doesn't seem a satisfactory explanation, given his prior willingness to settle. A better explanation (although also maybe not the correct one) is that Lance cannot afford to settle. There's also the dynamic that Lance doesn't want to have Floyd defeat him--more stubbornness than combativeness.

I think that's the one - it's not the what, but the who in this case

 

[Benotti69]

The story behind it is kinda funny. Some reporters were in town, from Rouleur IIRC, and they were spending the day with lance. Part of it included motorpacing TVG. Great way to show the world that everyone is fine with him, even the new generation.

Rouleur magazine should be called Omerta magazine!

New generation same as the old generation.

 

[blackcat]

I don't think that a civil lawsuit stokes Armstrong's combativeness. He probably finds the entire process entirely frustrating and enormously expensive. It probably makes him feel quite impotent because he must entirely depend upon the discretion and judgment of others to defend this lawsuit. He just passively asks and answers lawyers' questions as his money hemorrhages out the door.

Lance has settled disputes in the past. He's already settled with one insurer, his other sponsors, and the Times. Why isn't he settling this one? Combativeness doesn't seem a satisfactory explanation, given his prior willingness to settle. A better explanation (although also maybe not the correct one) is that Lance cannot afford to settle. There's also the dynamic that Lance doesn't want to have Floyd defeat him--more stubbornness than combativeness.

Mark, read it again, i emphasised the negative elements for Armstrong. My point was one could hold these psychological stimuli for negative and positive effects

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Good post Race!

took a while but finally someone else caught up to that post. Seems strange it took that long for all the folks here who have done all the diligence to not have uncovered that gem back when you first posted it up.

I guess most in this thread are not really looking to see what is going on but rather just pile onto the group think.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

This was during the ProChallenge was it not? ..it disappoints me greatly..
TJVG should have know better...obviously he does not.

Same time.

They even got pictures on the golf course.

 

[DirtyWorks]

took a while but finally someone else caught up to that post. Seems strange it took that long for all the folks here who have done all the diligence to not have uncovered that gem back when you first posted it up.

I guess most in this thread are not really looking to see what is going on but rather just pile onto the group think.

Was it posted somewhere else on the Internets for anyone to find prior to the link given?

 

[thehog]

Was it posted somewhere else on the Internets for anyone to find prior to the link given?

It was on Armstrong's Facebook page from the 10th September. I posted the photo of his Vespa on Twitter around the same time.

Perhaps not the smartest move by TeeJay. Alas, CVV in my mind is a worse offender by his jumping about on the topic.

But what can you do? VeloNews giving them all the publicity they need.

 

[DirtyWorks]

It was on Armstrong's Facebook page from the 10th September.

That explains why I wouldn't ever see it. I might be a too literal, but that screenshot doesn't specify TeeJay.

I'm not sure why TeeJay doesn't see the impact of hanging out with Wonderboy. Maybe he's an idiot off the bike.

VN is still acting like the propaganda outlet for USAC. I'm not sure why people still read it.

 

[thehog]

That explains why I wouldn't ever see it. I might be a too literal, but that screenshot doesn't specify TeeJay.

I'm not sure why TeeJay doesn't see the impact of hanging out with Wonderboy. Maybe he's an idiot off the bike.

VN is still acting like the propaganda outlet for USAC. I'm not sure why people still read it.

You need to spend more time on Lance's facebook page, it's a hoot! sadly it's all there.

Velonews is just one big press release. Even the tech articles read like an advertorial.

I wouldn't feel bad for TeeJay. I'm sure the advice he's gertting from Och is what perhaps is influencing him.

 

[MarkvW]

It was on Armstrong's Facebook page from the 10th September. I posted the photo of his Vespa on Twitter around the same time.

Perhaps not the smartest move by TeeJay. Alas, CVV in my mind is a worse offender by his jumping about on the topic.

But what can you do? VeloNews giving them all the publicity they need.

Good post, hog.

 

[Race Radio]

That explains why I wouldn't ever see it. I might be a too literal, but that screenshot doesn't specify TeeJay.

I'm not sure why TeeJay doesn't see the impact of hanging out with Wonderboy. Maybe he's an idiot off the bike.

VN is still acting like the propaganda outlet for USAC. I'm not sure why people still read it.

Yup, no mention of Tejay

Of course I did not get it from Facebook, that place is just for Grandmothers to share pictures of their cats

 

[mewmewmew13]

Same time.

They even got pictures on the golf course.

I think I posted the golf course pics on this thread ..if someone wants or cares to dig back..
it was in the Aspen Times...

 

[Archibald]

Rouleur magazine should be called Omerta magazine!

New generation same as the old generation.

they did some nice pics of Stannard and his dog in the snow - great way of showing off the new generation...

I've been waiting for the follow up piece of Cadel with his dog

 

[Stingray34]

Lance on a vespa. Is he a mod? Oh no, that would mean a Lambretta. No wonder Wiggo has disowned him.

Won't be fooled again.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Was it posted somewhere else on the Internets for anyone to find prior to the link given?

Yes it was---- and I was not taking a shot at ya with my post. I was surprised that someone else done the digging to find it.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Yes it was---- and I was not taking a shot at ya with my post. I was surprised that someone else done the digging to find it.

Ok, cool. RR's comment popped into my head when I was reading USAC's PR disaster over at VN.