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Re: Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession
US release is now on hold due to the poor UK results.
Flop.
US release is now on hold due to the poor UK results.
Flop.
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thehog said:US release is now on hold due to the poor UK results.
fmk_RoI said:thehog said:US release is now on hold due to the poor UK results.
It's worse than that: the US rights weren't picked up until September and only went to Entertainment One (see the comments on this Hollywood Reporter story to see what people made of that). It was a US flop even before its UK opening.
Release date: TBD
thehog said:And to think Walsh was trying to have a jab at Gibney. At least his movie played in cinemas in the US!
Walsh (to HeyUGuys):
"[Gibney was] enjoying his ride with Lance, he was a friend of Lance's, he was kind of being sucked in, he was enjoying that celebrity connection. And I would say [to him], 'Alex, you just neglected your journalistic self for a few months, or for a year, whatever and you were sucked in by it. You were crazy, man.'"
"I sit silently, letting two of the best brains in the business air their thoughts, hopes and nerves without interruption. As I look out upon Auvergne's hills and pastures, post-stage analysis as my sound-track, I am acutely aware of the access I am enjoying. Other journalists will now return to their hotels for another round of dinner, sleep and breakfast with only their speculations to cling on to between stages and press events. Instead, I live among the riders, coaches, managers, mechanics and carers that keep this team in the yellow jersey, following the Tour from inside Team Sky."
Beech Mtn said:Does Lance make any money from the Walsh film (or the other one)?
"French disgust with disgraced Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong seemed to carry over to Stephen Frears' film The Program, with only 55,000 moviegoers interested in reliving the steroid saga that played out in newspapers and on television in France for years. The Program is a French-British co-production from StudioCanal."
fmk_RoI said:What happened to The Program in France, where it came and went in mid September with hardly anyone noticing?
This from the Hollywood Reporter helps explain:
"French disgust with disgraced Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong seemed to carry over to Stephen Frears' film The Program, with only 55,000 moviegoers interested in reliving the steroid saga that played out in newspapers and on television in France for years. The Program is a French-British co-production from StudioCanal."
55k tickets sold equates to abt €301k gross (£214k). For the French Top 10 in The Program's opening weekend, see Allociné.fr but remember that the number given is number of tickets sold.
A federal judge has denied a request by U.S. Justice Department attorneys to ask Lance Armstrong more questions about his controversial traffic accident last year in Aspen, Colo
thehog said:This will upset a few...
A federal judge has denied a request by U.S. Justice Department attorneys to ask Lance Armstrong more questions about his controversial traffic accident last year in Aspen, Colo
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/cycling/2015/10/29/judge-says-no-more-questions-lance-armstrongs-fender-bender/74841902/
I must say I did like it.fmk_RoI said:Personally, I'd fully agree with what Walsh said about Alex Gibney. The Armstrong Lie is a bad documentary, a poor attempt to salvage what looked like a not very good hagiography derailed by the Feds and USADA.
Fearless Greg Lemond said:I must say I did like it.
Too bad I never saw the original hagiography.
MarkvW said:Shouldn't.
Just wonder how incroyable the original would have been...fmk_RoI said:With all due respect, the majority of cycling fans see a film about cycling, go "Yay! Bikes!" and park their critical faculties.
The first half of The Armstrong Lie gives a good idea of where Gibney seemed to want to take the original film. The second - questioning - part added nothing that wasn't already known. Gibney offered no new spin on the narrative, no fresh way of looking at the story and reframing it. As a documentary, it failed to deliver anything that hadn't already been on the news and in a million think pieces.
Fearless Greg Lemond said:Did you ask Sir David on twitter about his dubious stance or did he block you?
fmk_RoI said:MarkvW said:Shouldn't.
Should, if you read the full article, of which the Aspen decision is but a small part. LA has won more time to build his argument that USPS should have known he was doping and financially profited from his doping.
fmk_RoI said:Fearless Greg Lemond said:Did you ask Sir David on twitter about his dubious stance or did he block you?
I have only ever spoken to Millar once, he phoned me after I reviewed his first book. He appears to have blocked me since I reviewed his second, even though I said some nice things about it.
thehog said:Why did he call? Did he want you to write nice things about him?
fmk_RoI said:thehog said:Why did he call? Did he want you to write nice things about him?
He didn't like what I wrote. Couldn't understand why I was being so critical. He's still too used to people blowing smoke up his derrière and can't handle cricism, IMO. Which, sadly, you normally have to expect if you publish a book.
(To bring this back on topic: while LA blocked me for a while, that is no longer the case, now it's the likes of Millar, Walsh, Froome. So chapeau Lance, you're not as silly as some.)
This exactly - but look I am honest enough to know I deserve to be blocked as I am certainly not as moderate as you...lance also unblocked me - it's all a bit bizarrefmk_RoI said:thehog said:Why did he call? Did he want you to write nice things about him?
He didn't like what I wrote. Couldn't understand why I was being so critical. He's still too used to people blowing smoke up his derrière and can't handle criticism, IMO. Which, sadly, you normally have to expect if you publish a book.
(To bring this back on topic: while LA blocked me for a while, that is no longer the case, now it's the likes of Millar, Walsh, Froome. So chapeau Lance, you're not as silly as some.)
Digger said:the tipping point for me was winter 2012 when the 'winning' side met in a bar in new York at a roller event - it sat badly with me - as though they were celebrating getting the villain whilst clapping each other on the back
i was thinking more like the celebs that pay their restaurant bills with cheques so that the owners will frame them on the wall for the autograph instead of cashing them...D-Queued said:Archibald said:with his warped sense of logic, I could see a thought process of him doing this in the hope that the other party wouldn't seek the cost of repairs or press charges... the thinking being that they'd not repair the damage, but have bragging status of pointing out to people that "this is where Lance Armstrong drove into my car" or "see that, that was done by Lance Armstrong"......
Like the many other things Lance has been "prepared to admit" to and "accept responsibility for"...
A 'I got hit by a train wreck' kind of thing?
Dave.
fmk_RoI said:Fearless Greg Lemond said:I must say I did like it.
Too bad I never saw the original hagiography.
With all due respect, the majority of cycling fans see a film about cycling, go "Yay! Bikes!" and park their critical faculties.
The first half of The Armstrong Lie gives a good idea of where Gibney seemed to want to take the original film. The second - questioning - part added nothing that wasn't already known. Gibney offered no new spin on the narrative, no fresh way of looking at the story and reframing it. As a documentary, it failed to deliver anything that hadn't already been on the news and in a million think pieces.