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Thoughtforfood said:
My welcome?

You throw up a lob and I knock it out of the park and I am the one with the problem? Dang, throw harder pitches is all I can say.
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The problem you have is that you see every post as a ball to be hit.

By the way - when I wrote 'backdoor', I used it in the traditional manner ('back door man' - look it up if you have to). Give the lube reference, I suspect you interpreted it to fit your own context.
 
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yourwelcome said:
The problem you have is that you see every post as a ball to be hit.

By the way - when I wrote 'backdoor', I used it in the traditional manner ('back door man' - look it up if you have to). Give the lube reference, I suspect you interpreted it to fit your own context.
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Ok I checked it Back Door Man - is this live from the Astana party?
 
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yourwelcome said:
Sorry, I'm too lazy to surf up your YouTube link and am done with the forum for today, but meantime, enjoy yourselves here obsessing about LA ;-)
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Actually it was just a little light hearted humour....
 
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I'd love to know what LA did to the little club of obsessive haters in this forum... he can't have had time to backdoor all of you ;-)
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How is this for starters:
http://www.diariosur.es/20090727/deportes/ciclismo/fiesta-privada-contador-20090727.html

"A Tale of solitude. It happened on Thursday, a few hours before the Annecy ITT. Contador came downstairs to the entrance of the Palace of Menthon, the luxurious Astana hotel. The Tour was on. He looked right, then left. Nobody, nothing. No Astana cars or helpers. Cold sweat. Quick time check. Where are they? The hotel is several kilometers from the start. There he was, the leader of the Tour, in flip-flops, bag in hand and alone. He went to the hall looking for an answer: Armstrong had ordered the helpers to go pick up his wife, kids and friends to the airport.
Contador left his room last because he was the last one starting the ITT. Armstrong had managed to take away his means of transportation. The straw that broke the camel's back. Hot flashes, he was rabid. He called his brother Fran. He came to pick him up by car and took him to Annecy in a private vehicle. He left last and finished first. His best victory. In the ITT. In solitude. The same way he has won his second tour.

Contador's toughest climb was not recorded in images. It was narrated by others. It was fought in the hotel and the bus: during one stage, Armstrong sat his guests at the very back of the bus, right in Contador's usual seat. One more provocation. Armstrong to the luxury suite. Contador to sleep with Paulinho, the only ally. Same deal during the entire tour. Mouth shut, listening to Armstrong's jabs: "It doesn't take a Nobel price to figure out what happens with side winds". Contador didn't reply in the hotel. He did on the road. He attacked in the first mountain finish in Arcalis. Without permission from Bruyneel, Armstrong's DS. That night the Astana hotel was a funeral. Red eyes from the Texan (anger? crying? not sure). The first cyclist that stood up to him. And he did it in silence."
 
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LaBici said:
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I agree with rhubroma . And so would the Badger, The Cannibal, and Master Jacques. Lance has accomplished much. But only in the Tour. One race. The real champions won over the whole season. They didn't focus on ONE month.

Hinault said. "He would have impressed me if at the height of his career, he raced the Giro [d'Italia], the classics. He is the champion of the Tour, nothing more."

And what Lance and Johan have tried to do to Alberto is despicable.

History will be the final judge on Armstrong and where he ranks in the pantheon of the greats.
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Bang on target and the facts as they stand. The tour is out of it lets see lance go at the Giro next year and parisroubaix
 
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Without knowing if Lance and/or Contador were on drugs, it's pretty hard to judge their athletic accomplishments.
 
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How is this for starters:
http://www.diariosur.es/20090727/deportes/ciclismo/fiesta-privada-contador-20090727.html

"A Tale of solitude. It happened on Thursday, a few hours before the Annecy ITT. Contador came downstairs to the entrance of the Palace of Menthon, the luxurious Astana hotel. The Tour was on. He looked right, then left. Nobody, nothing. No Astana cars or helpers. Cold sweat. Quick time check. Where are they? The hotel is several kilometers from the start. There he was, the leader of the Tour, in flip-flops, bag in hand and alone. He went to the hall looking for an answer: Armstrong had ordered the helpers to go pick up his wife, kids and friends to the airport.
Contador left his room last because he was the last one starting the ITT. Armstrong had managed to take away his means of transportation. The straw that broke the camel's back. Hot flashes, he was rabid. He called his brother Fran. He came to pick him up by car and took him to Annecy in a private vehicle. He left last and finished first. His best victory. In the ITT. In solitude. The same way he has won his second tour.

Contador's toughest climb was not recorded in images. It was narrated by others. It was fought in the hotel and the bus: during one stage, Armstrong sat his guests at the very back of the bus, right in Contador's usual seat. One more provocation. Armstrong to the luxury suite. Contador to sleep with Paulinho, the only ally. Same deal during the entire tour. Mouth shut, listening to Armstrong's jabs: "It doesn't take a Nobel price to figure out what happens with side winds". Contador didn't reply in the hotel. He did on the road. He attacked in the first mountain finish in Arcalis. Without permission from Bruyneel, Armstrong's DS. That night the Astana hotel was a funeral. Red eyes from the Texan (anger? crying? not sure). The first cyclist that stood up to him. And he did it in silence."
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I went to the link and cannot find the translation to english (my spanish ain't half bad, but it's not good enough to reliably convey what I think it says to others)
Is there by chance an english language link?

I went to the english version of the site, no luck, can't even find the sports section. I copied the spanish and popped it into a web translator, that's a regular horrorshow. Someday they will figure that out. Not today. ::shrug::

After the last 3 weeks of 'who wants to show some class?' Lance is a real piece of work. I don't think Hinault treated LeMond half that poorly. At least most of it was in the race itself.

Give a piece of trailer trash a couple hundred million dollars and all you get is monied trailer trash.

And Lance's fans, I am thinking the typical response from them is 'so what'. It doesn't take a nobel prize winner to recognize a person with deep issues.
 
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ggusta said:
I went to the link and cannot find the translation to english (my spanish ain't half bad, but it's not good enough to reliably convey what I think it says to others)
Is there by chance an english language link?

I went to the english version of the site, no luck, can't even find the sports section. I copied the spanis and popped it into a web translator, that's a regular horrorshow. Someday they will figure that out. Not today. ::shrug::

After the last 3 weeks of 'who wants to show some class?' Lance is a real piece of work. I don't think Hinault treated LeMond half that poorly. At least most of it was in the race itself.

Give a piece of trailer trash a couple hundred million dollars and all you get is monied trailer trash.

And Lance's fans, I am thinking the typical response from them is 'so what'. It doesn't take a nobel prize winner to recognize a person with deep issues.
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Sorry, those are the paragraphs I translated, there is no English version of the article.
 
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ggusta said:
I went to the link and cannot find the translation to english (my spanish ain't half bad, but it's not good enough to reliably convey what I think it says to others)

I went to the english version of the site, no luck, can't even find the sports section. I copied the spanis and popped it into a web translator, that's a regular horrorshow. Someday they will figure that out. Not today. ::shrug::

After the last 3 weeks of 'who wants to show some class?' Lance is a real piece of work. I don't think Hinault treated LeMond half that poorly. At least most of it was in the race itself.

Give a piece of trailer trash a couple hundred million dollars and all you get is monied trailer trash.

And Lance's fans, I am thinking the typical response from them is 'so what'. It doesn't take a nobel prize winner to recognize a person with deep issues.
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+1..........................
 
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fulcrum said:
How is this for starters:
http://www.diariosur.es/20090727/deportes/ciclismo/fiesta-privada-contador-20090727.html

"A Tale of solitude. It happened on Thursday, a few hours before the Annecy ITT. Contador came downstairs to the entrance of the Palace of Menthon, the luxurious Astana hotel. The Tour was on. He looked right, then left. Nobody, nothing. No Astana cars or helpers. Cold sweat. Quick time check. Where are they? The hotel is several kilometers from the start. There he was, the leader of the Tour, in flip-flops, bag in hand and alone. He went to the hall looking for an answer: Armstrong had ordered the helpers to go pick up his wife, kids and friends to the airport.
Contador left his room last because he was the last one starting the ITT. Armstrong had managed to take away his means of transportation. The straw that broke the camel's back. Hot flashes, he was rabid. He called his brother Fran. He came to pick him up by car and took him to Annecy in a private vehicle. He left last and finished first. His best victory. In the ITT. In solitude. The same way he has won his second tour.

Contador's toughest climb was not recorded in images. It was narrated by others. It was fought in the hotel and the bus: during one stage, Armstrong sat his guests at the very back of the bus, right in Contador's usual seat. One more provocation. Armstrong to the luxury suite. Contador to sleep with Paulinho, the only ally. Same deal during the entire tour. Mouth shut, listening to Armstrong's jabs: "It doesn't take a Nobel price to figure out what happens with side winds". Contador didn't reply in the hotel. He did on the road. He attacked in the first mountain finish in Arcalis. Without permission from Bruyneel, Armstrong's DS. That night the Astana hotel was a funeral. Red eyes from the Texan (anger? crying? not sure). The first cyclist that stood up to him. And he did it in silence."
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Wow. Words just fail.... :eek:
 
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Hahahahaha. I hope more little stories of Lances bitterness come out soon. Its really interesting to hear how petty he can be in his actions. Particularly in his little comments to the press and compulsive Twittering.

I was not a Contador fan up until this tour as I always regarded him as a bit of a shady character but after seeing how he has behaved as a true pro during the tour I now have allot of respect for the little boy.
 
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Hahahahaha. I hope more little stories of Lances bitterness come out soon. Its really interesting to hear how petty he can be in his actions. Particularly in his little comments to the press and compulsive Twittering.

I was not a Contador fan up until this tour as I always regarded him as a bit of a shady character but after seeing how he has behaved as a true pro during the tour I now have allot of respect for the little boy.
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Apparently not enough not to refer to him as a man. :eek: Baby steps I guess....
 
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My welcome?

You throw up a lob and I knock it out of the park and I am the one with the problem? Dang, throw harder pitches is all I can say.
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I get it now, all you gotta do to hit a homerun is say you did. And maybe I'm having flashbacks (entirely possible) but I thing you've used the same tired "My welcome?" about 4 times now while p1ss1ng back and forth with the same guy. It doesn't even matter anymore whether I agree with you or not, I am just tired of the noise. You don't debate as much as you cyber shout down. Well had enough of this I'm off to bed, good night all.
 
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Apparently not enough not to refer to him as a man. :eek: Baby steps I guess....
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Good point.:) But as he’s the same age as me and my team mates like to call me that I guess I meant it as a term of endearment.

Anyway, its allot better than what I used to call him! And WAY nicer than anything I've ever called The Mighty Headed One.
 
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Hugh Januss said:
LMFAO, guess he is on board with the VS official designation for climbers of Spanish heritage.:confused:
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Afraid that ones over my head. Dont get VS (versus?) in Austraaaalia, mate.

Back to the point Lance Armstrong, Lance Armstrong, Lance Armstrong, Lance Armstrong, Lance Armstrong, Lance Armstrong, Lance Armstrong,
 
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Another good article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ighty-contador-ushers-in-new-era-1761969.html

Confirms what many of us knew. Armstrong was trying to establish he was the leader of the team. Had he taken yellow, Contador would have been in a bad position. That's why Contador attacked on stage 7 and Lance went whining to the press.

But how was the great Lance Armstrong beaten by someone so supposedly dumb? A dumb person would have trusted LA and JB. Contador knew completely what he was up against. He executed masterfully.

And we got to enjoy Lance's sad puppy eyes on the podium.
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It doesn't "confirm" anything, except that the writer is a dumbass IMO.

By that, I mean that he bought into the whole idea that the Armstrong of 2009 was the Armstrong of 2005 and now he was "dethroned" by Contador.

Here is one quote:

But at the same time it is also to Contador's immense credit – and this, even if he stops racing tomorrow, will be his legacy – that Armstrong has never before admitted that another rider was superior to him.
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No--Contador's legacy so far is that he has won 4 Grand Tours by the age of 26 and that he will win a ton more. That fact that he defeated Armstrong at age 37 will be a footnote. The idea that Armstrong "never admitted another rider was superior" is just silly. What did he think Armstrong was going to do--still claim "I am the greatest!" for the rest of his life?

Newsflash: When a 37 year old comes out of 3+ yrs of retirement, and is beaten by a young stud who is the best stage racer on the planet--that ain't big news. I don't care what Armstrong said or what he thought he might be able to achieve. A professional cycling journalist should have known better than to take any of Armstrong's public pronouncements--or Contador's either--at face value.

Here's another:

Contador's worst fears were realised when Armstrong came within a whisker, just 22 thousandths of a second, of taking yellow after the team time trial in the Tour's first week.

The American immediately began behaving as if he was team leader, making no secret of his ambition to win the race.
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He made no secret of his ambition to win the race before it even started. It's not like there was some evil plot hatched after the TTT. And everyone with any brains knew that, as soon as the race hit the mountains, someone from Astana was going to have to chase down Andy Schleck--and it wasn't going to be Armstrong.

I get really frustrated because it seems like you only get 3 alternatives when it comes to Armstrong coverage--fawning @ss-licking (versus, wilcoxson, etc), Taliban-like fundamentalism (walsh, kimmage, lemond), or this crap. It ****es me off that these guys get paid to follow the Tour, but cannot come up with anything more insightful that what I can see on my TV.

This guy writes like he spent the whole Tour at the free donut table---or admiring the crease in Bernie Hinault's official khaki pants.
 
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Hugh Januss said:
I get it now, all you gotta do to hit a homerun is say you did. And maybe I'm having flashbacks (entirely possible) but I thing you've used the same tired "My welcome?" about 4 times now while p1ss1ng back and forth with the same guy. It doesn't even matter anymore whether I agree with you or not, I am just tired of the noise. You don't debate as much as you cyber shout down. Well had enough of this I'm off to bed, good night all.
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Wow, I really make your dick hard, huh? I hope your bed has plastic sheets.
 
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