Official London Olympics Doping thread

[King Boonen]

Jess Ennis 100m Hurdles - 12.54 lol

fastest 100m hurdles race by heptathlete

12.54 is the same time Dawn Harper ran in Beijing2008 to win the individual 100m hurdles

She's always been a fantastic hurdler, lets wait and see how she goes in the other events.

She's still not beating the mens' times.

 

[roundabout]

Her PB was 12.79

She ran the 100m hurdles in 12.90s in the last 3 worlds

meh.

Fast track.

 

[maestro01]

Jess Ennis 100m Hurdles - 12.54 lol

fastest 100m hurdles race by heptathlete

12.54 is the same time Dawn Harper ran in Beijing2008 to win the individual 100m hurdles

Not bad for someone labelled as 'fat' a few weeks ago

 

[taiwan]

zomg is there video of this somewhere?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19104330

Dude is 19, direct of speech in the typical German way, can't really fault him

They just need to have a blanket ban on GB cyclists giving interviews, that's all.

 

[King Boonen]

Her PB was 12.79

She ran the 100m hurdles in 12.90s in the last 3 worlds

meh.

Fast track.

Probably nice and springy

Like I said, lets wait for the other events. I'm not saying she isn't cheating, just that more evidence is needed considering this is her best event (I think?)

 

[thrawn]

Jamaican's not happy with Powell getting drug tested.

http://www.smh.com.au/olympics/athl...ver-dope-test-wakeup-call-20120803-23kyc.html

 

[Frosty]

Jamaican's not happy with Powell getting drug tested.

http://www.smh.com.au/olympics/athl...ver-dope-test-wakeup-call-20120803-23kyc.html

He complained about that in Beijing too

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/beijing/2008-08-12-drug-tests_N.htm

 

[D-Queued]

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She's still not beating the mens' times.

So long as she isn't Asian, that is ok.

Dave.

 

[King Boonen]

So long as she isn't Asian, that is ok.

Dave.

You'll note I've not questioned the Chinese cyclists. What is their ethnicity again?

 

[python]

http://www.rt.com/sport/belarus-olympic-gold-doping-776/

this is really interesting...and weird.

the guy's 'clean' sample from 8 years ago was retested in london and deemed dirty NOW. he was withdrawn from the competition just hours ago.

the same guy tested positive in the previous olympics in beijing returned his medal, won his case in CAS and got his medal back

the glowing points through this weird story are two:
one, the improved testing finally caught up with the cheat
two, even CAS was powerless when masking beat the test.

 

[D-Queued]

You'll note I've not questioned the Chinese cyclists. What is their ethnicity again?

Athletes can come out of test tubes independent of their ancestry.

Dave.

 

[D-Queued]

http://www.rt.com/sport/belarus-olympic-gold-doping-776/

this is really interesting...and weird.

the guy's 'clean' sample from 8 years ago was retested in london and deemed dirty NOW. he was withdrawn from the competition just hours ago.

the same guy tested positive in the previous olympics in beijing returned his medal, won his case in CAS and got his medal back

the glowing points through this weird story are two:
one, the improved testing finally caught up with the cheat
two, even CAS was powerless when masking beat the test.

Good catch python.

Anything 'you know who' should be worried about with respect to retesting samples?

How did they get around the lack of an A sample here?

Dave.

 

[King Boonen]

Athletes can come out of test tubes independent of their ancestry.

Dave.

Yes, they can. So why the accusations of racism?

 

[D-Queued]

Yes, they can. So why the accusations of racism?

I wasn't making one.

Just observing, as others have, that 'we' westerners tend to get pretty myopic about the middle kingdom.

With respect to the Heptathlete challenging men's times, and the recent experience in the individual medley, ultimately the Chinese aren't any better at cheating than anyone else.

Dave.

 

[King Boonen]

I wasn't making one.

Just observing, as others have, that 'we' westerners tend to get pretty myopic about the middle kingdom.

With respect to the Heptathlete challenging men's times, and the recent experience in the individual medley, ultimately the Chinese aren't any better at cheating than anyone else.

Dave.

Yes, you were.

And again, I haven't said they are. IF she was doping you could argue that she's not good at it with a performance like that, and that's IF she is.

 

[Frosty]

http://www.rt.com/sport/belarus-olympic-gold-doping-776/

this is really interesting...and weird.

the guy's 'clean' sample from 8 years ago was retested in london and deemed dirty NOW. he was withdrawn from the competition just hours ago.

the same guy tested positive in the previous olympics in beijing returned his medal, won his case in CAS and got his medal back

the glowing points through this weird story are two:
one, the improved testing finally caught up with the cheat
two, even CAS was powerless when masking beat the test.

Yeah, the retests have been in the news recently

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/olympics/7350099/IOC-admit-laxness-in-retesting-Athens-samples

Wonder why only 100 being tested? Are those all that remain?

 

[Frosty]

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Which Heptathlete is challenging men's times? None as far as i can see.

A heptathlete has won the heptathlon and another event before - Jackie Joyner Kersee took the long jump as well as the multi-event title in 1988.

 

[saosinfangirl]

She's still not beating the mens' times.

fastest 110m hurdles race by decathlon: 13.47 = 8.166m/s
Ennis: 12.54 = 7.9744m/s .. so close

btw. Ye’s time was 23 seconds slower than Lochte, and also 14 seconds slower than the last place finisher in the men’s 400-meter

 

[python]

Good catch python.

Anything 'you know who' should be worried about with respect to retesting samples?

imho, a resounding yes...

he-who-can-not-be-named should be worried IF any of his frozen urine samples have happened to stick around and usada can reclaim them.

the connection, though not a straightforward one, is obvious.

firstly, despite the ioc not telling publicly what substance was found after the 8 years being dormant, i have a solid guess that it was an anabolic steroid or a testosterone.

secondly, he-who-can-not-be-named was directly accused by the usada of using testosterone and or steroids. there are several sources (including the 3 disappeared pre-olympic T/E tests) that point to the wonderboy's love of anabolics.

 

[King Boonen]

fastest 110m hurdles race by decathlon: 13.47 = 8.166m/s
Ennis: 12.54 = 7.9744m/s .. so close

btw. Ye’s time was 23 seconds slower than Lochte, and also 14 seconds slower than the last place finisher in the men’s 400-meter

That's not the point if you read the whole discussion. The point is that she was faster than 4 male finalists over the last leg, three of who can't be claimed to be slowing down. I'd hazard that that's unheard of but I don't know.

As for Ennis that would equal about 2.5 meters difference at the end of the race. What we really need is the slowest time by a male decathlete in a final to make the comparison.

 

[Frosty]

fastest 110m hurdles race by decathlon: 13.47 = 8.166m/s
Ennis: 12.54 = 7.9744m/s .. so close

btw. Ye’s time was 23 seconds slower than Lochte, and also 14 seconds slower than the last place finisher in the men’s 400-meter

Women's hurdles are lower than the men's by about 20cm. Also, the men's hurdles are the 6th event in the decathlon rather than the 1st in the heptathlon.

Not sure what the previous heptathlon hurdles record was - it could be 12.62 by Barber in 2005. Have to wait to see how the other sprints go, could be a fast track too.

 

[D-Queued]

Yes, you were.

And again, I haven't said they are. IF she was doping you could argue that she's not good at it with a performance like that, and that's IF she is.

So now you are calling me a racist?

You might want to slow down before the next curve.

Dave.

 

[Catwhoorg]

. Have to wait to see how the other sprints go, could be a fast track too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18735617

The track is pretty much designed to be faster than Beijing.

I have little doubt that Rio will be even faster.

'Technological doping' worth a little bit of a boost here and there. (but within the current IAAF guidelines for tracks)

 

[Catwhoorg]

Ennis specifically is a world class hurdler by any definition. She would be competing for a medal in that event if she entered.

She is also the GB record holder for the high jump going in to the Olympics. Its another good event for her.

 

[King Boonen]

So now you are calling me a racist?

You might want to slow down before the next curve.

Dave.

No, I'm not. Maybe illiterate...