I think this thread should be renamed…he’s so far beyond another Stybar.
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I think this thread should be renamed…he’s so far beyond another Stybar.
Was it the team or his ego that dropped the ball?
Who's going to ride with him? He'll have to do most of the work in the break by himself.He should try go into the break or at least attack on stage 7. Let UAE chase. I assume Ineos and Movistar are smart enough to not do anything. Or the other way around. If Porte attacks, I hope JV won't chase him. Let UAE do the work. Taking yellow by showing how good you are on stage 20 and stage 5 is quite different (although he is not in yellow yet, but you know what I mean). 15 stages where Pogi will have to defend his position.
We'll see how much GC there still is to fight for by that time. His GC duties had been toned down this year to begin with, and he's not in the shape he was last year due to the surgery. If Roglic never gets into podium contention due to his injuries from the crash earlier, it makes no sense for Van Aert to needlessly waste time in the Tour when he could be resting/recoverinig and doing specific training for Tokyo.He can't get off like that since he has GC duties to perform. He is not in a similar situation as Van der Poel
Sure, it could make sense for Van Aert to DNS after the second rest day, but that doesn't excuse a lack of commitment in the stages before that.We'll see how much GC there still is to fight for by that time. His GC duties had been toned down this year to begin with, and he's not in the shape he was last year due to the surgery. If Roglic never gets into podium contention due to his injuries from the crash earlier, it makes no sense for Van Aert to needlessly waste time in the Tour when he could be resting/recoverinig and doing specific training for Tokyo.
Too bad he didn't wait for Roglic 3 or 4 days ago aye.
Seriously, with Roglic done, the team has no real podium contender. Maybe Vingegaard can finish top 10, but i think Van Aert should try to go for yellow tomorrow, and if that doesn't work out, that he goes for a stage next week, to get out after the second week to work towards the Olympics. Him going for GC now isn't realistic.
How isn't Vingegaard a podium contender? Especially if it wasn't him, but Van Aert who had waited after Roglic's crash.Too bad he didn't wait for Roglic 3 or 4 days ago aye.
Seriously, with Roglic done, the team has no real podium contender. Maybe Vingegaard can finish top 10, but i think Van Aert should try to go for yellow tomorrow, and if that doesn't work out, that he goes for a stage next week, to get out after the second week to work towards the Olympics. Him going for GC now isn't realistic.
Evenepoel was 1st to win the Giro according to the bookies last year, and 2nd or 3rd this year. I thought you had your doubts about that one as well? When exactly has Vingegaard shown us that he can podium the TDF then? When has he shown us that he can fight for 3 weeks every day?How isn't Vingegaard a podium contender? Especially if it wasn't him, but Van Aert who had waited after Roglic's crash.
He is currently the 3rd favourite to win the whole thing after Pogi and Carapaz, according to the bookies. The next in line are Alaphilippe, Uran and Thomas.
I asked why he isn't a podium contender. Who is? I don't think he is less likely to podium than Mas and Uran.Evenepoel was 1st to win the Giro according to the bookies last year, and 2nd or 3rd this year. I thought you had your doubts about that one as well? When exactly has Vingegaard shown us that he can podium the TDF then? When has he shown us that he can fight for 3 weeks every day?
It also seems like you are insinuating i said Vingegaard should have waited, i never made that claim, just that it was the right decision not to burn Van Aert.
90% of the peloton apparently was going to ride with him.Who's going to ride with him? He'll have to do most of the work in the break by himself.
Where's he going? He's not going to (be able) ride for GC, why would any GC team bother chasing him? He's not nearly as good as last year. But i doubt Alpecin Fenix will let him go to begin with.
He should pick one or two stages and get off after the 2nd week in order to get rested and ready for the Olympics.
Plenty of guys in the race have already proven to be able to finish a GT on the podium. Mas, Lopez, Carapaz, Pogacar...I asked why he isn't a podium contender. Who is?
But now he does....Where does it go from here?He can't get off like that since he has GC duties to perform. He is not in a similar situation as Van der Poel
I don't do bets of any kind. Pogacar winning last year's TDF is reason enough not to.So you already now don't think Remco will be a podium contender for the Giro next year?
And a bit weird to only list four contenders for three spots, and then have that include Lopez who has lost plenty of time and not looked good for a single moment in the Tour so far.
And of course you don't need to have finished on the podium before to be a podium contender. Vingegaard has ridden 1 GT as a helper where he didn't ride for GC, so that's a meaningless measure to use.
EDIT: Since you don't do avatar bets, what about a signature bet (where one keeps the original but gets an added line)?
Would it be possible to have a discussion without so often resorting to personal digs?I also don't understand why this seems to be such a big deal, but i'm glad you think my opinion is important.
Nowherenbecause I think he is actually really missing a bit of that high-end in form. Still good results but with last year's form he would have had one or more wins/podiums already.But now he does....Where does it go from here?