One minute power/ watts

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Lefevere stated a few hours ago in Extra Time Koers (Sporza), that Alaphilippe weighs 60kg (that means the 62kg on PCS would be incorrect). Might be interesting for this excercise.

 

[Cannavaro]

Apart from Rodez, I have calculated the following short efforts:

12.14 W/kg for 34 seconds for Zdenek Stybar on Via Costa del Borgo (Osimo) [stage 11 Giro 2018]
11.77 W/kg for 57 seconds for Simon Yates on Via Olimpia (Osimo) [stage 11 Giro 2018]
11.61 W/kg for 83 seconds for Davide Formolo on Caltagirone [stage 4 Giro 2018]
10.73 W/kg for 108 seconds for Joaquim Rodriguez on Montjuic [stage 9 Vuelta 2012]
9.64 W/kg for 94 seconds for Philippe Gilbert on Monte Berico [stage 12 Giro 2015]
9.43 W/kg for 111 seconds for Sergio Henao on Trapagaran [stage 3 Vuelta Pais Vasco 2013]
9.42 W/kg for 57 seconds for Michael Matthews on Atxulu [stage 2 Vuelta Pais Vasco 2018]

As I wrote before, there is a lot of uncertainty in this calculations.

 

[Koronin]

These are interesting.
Don't know if anyone would be interested in figuring this out or not, but it would be interesting to see the differences between Valverde and Alaphilippe with theirs on the Mur de Huy. However, when figuring Valverde's remember although he's currently racing at 61kg before last year his race weight was 63kg. (His record breaking time would be interesting to know as well.)

 

[Nobody73]

Thanks for the answers or estimates. I remember one of his teammates talking about his absolute one minute power being unreal. That first minute of an attack and then holding equals a deserved world championship especiially from the group he was in.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

A few posters can make an experiment Find a very steep mountain path (or stairs) and perform 1-minute uphill sprint and 20-minute intense effort. The ratio of 1-minute VAM to 20-minute VAM would be a good estimation of ratio of average 1-minute watts (watts/kg) to 20-minute watts (watts/kg) since gravity constitutes a vast majority of forces a human overcomes on a steep climb. This could be an even better estimate than using bike wattometers. Anyway, from posts above it seems that a ratio of 1.5-1.7 is a good estimate.

 

[Cannavaro]

These are interesting.
Don't know if anyone would be interested in figuring this out or not, but it would be interesting to see the differences between Valverde and Alaphilippe with theirs on the Mur de Huy. However, when figuring Valverde's remember although he's currently racing at 61kg before last year his race weight was 63kg. (His record breaking time would be interesting to know as well.)

I often saw his weight given as 61 kg in the past. But he has a very long career and your sources are definitely more trustful than mine. I use my old calculations with Valverde at 61 kg and Alaphilippe at 62 kg. The difference for W/kg for a steep climb like Mur de Huy are very small.

Valverde:
8.94 W/kg [2014] 2:43
8.53 W/kg [2006] 2:50
8.53 W/kg [2007] 2:50
8.41 W/kg [2018] 2:52
8.41 W/kg [2016] 2:52
8.36 W/kg [2017] 2:53
8.36 W/kg [2015] 2:53
8.20 W/kg [2010] 2:56
8.15 W/kg [2009] 2:57
8.15 W/kg [2013] 2:57
8.10 W/kg [2015 Tour] 2:58

Alaphilippe
8.62 W/kg [2018] 2:48
8.50 W/kg [2019] 2:50
8.39 W/kg [2016] 2:52
8.34 W/kg [2015] 2:53

 

[Koronin]

I often saw his weight given as 61 kg in the past. But he has a very long career and your sources are definitely more trustful than mine. I use my old calculations with Valverde at 61 kg and Alaphilippe at 62 kg. The difference for W/kg for a steep climb like Mur de Huy are very small.

Valverde:
8.94 W/kg [2014] 2:43
8.53 W/kg [2006] 2:50
8.53 W/kg [2007] 2:50
8.41 W/kg [2018] 2:52
8.41 W/kg [2016] 2:52
8.36 W/kg [2017] 2:53
8.36 W/kg [2015] 2:53
8.20 W/kg [2010] 2:56
8.15 W/kg [2009] 2:57
8.15 W/kg [2013] 2:57
8.10 W/kg [2015 Tour] 2:58

Alaphilippe
8.62 W/kg [2018] 2:48
8.50 W/kg [2019] 2:50
8.39 W/kg [2016] 2:52
8.34 W/kg [2015] 2:53

Thanks.
So the reality is, they have a fairly similar W/kg, which is what I was curious about. For that slight variances in weight wouldn't make a lot of difference.
Before his ban he raced at a higher weight than after, and last year he was experimenting with his weight for climbing.