Only 3 for GB.Good luck Cav

[hrotha]

Which countries will make a concerted effort to chase?

(It was a general figure).

USA for starters.

My point was that 30s, even if it's a general figure, is completely unrealistic. The gaps will be smaller.

 

[euanli]

The more interesting question have they 3 quality pro's?

What are you qualifying as a quality pro?

 

[davis_123]

Jeremy Hunt won the Aussie National championship road race in 2000

I said of note not some dud event 99% of people had no idea was on.

 

[davis_123]

Off topic but......Jonny Wilkinson.... just that.

Hugby has about 3 supporters in this country, next...

Try winning at least 1 game in this years ashes for example

Except for, you know, the last 3 Australian Grand Prix...

Anyway, I agree with what I think the general sentiment in this thread is once one looks past nationalist fervour, which is that a three-man team GB will be unable to chase down attacks and control the race in the finale, so for Cavendish to have any chance of contesting he will have to hope other countries will work for a sprint.

F1 is more about the car then the drivers, most of them are within a few tenths so if you are in the best car its hard to lose.

Anyways your missing the point, Cavendish is an arrogant ****er of the highest order who should not be allowed in our country. I would gladly have some no name rider from China win the world champs just to make sure that little weed doesn't win.

 

[Mambo95]

Try winning at least 1 game in this years ashes for example

Shouldn't be a problem. The Aussies recently lost to P.akistan FFS. England have three bowlers in the top ten of the World Rankings and the batsmen have all been getting runs (apart from Cook). I predict misery for the convicts.

(The censors won't let me write ****stan. How bizarre)

 

[Jamsque]

Anyways your missing the point, Cavendish is an arrogant ****er of the highest order who should not be allowed in our country. I would gladly have some no name rider from China win the world champs just to make sure that little weed doesn't win.

You are right, I did miss your point. Your were trying to get across that you are a bigoted nationalist moron, I foolishly assumed you were discussing cycling. My mistake.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Shouldn't be a problem. The Aussies recently lost to P.akistan FFS. England have three bowlers in the top ten of the World Rankings and the batsmen have all been getting runs (apart from Cook). I predict misery for the convicts.

(The censors won't let me write ****stan. How bizarre)

The australian cricket team are like the equivalent of cav. Smug pieces of sh!t.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Hugby has about 3 supporters in this country, next...

You never specified that it had to be in something that you cared about, only that it had to be something of note. And a World Cup in a major sport is something 'of note', no?

How about:

Jonathan Edwards (Triple Jump)
Denise Lewis (Heptathlon)
Audley Harrison (Boxing)
Pinsent/Redgrave/Cracknell/Foster (Rowing)
Jason Queally (1km track ITT)
Attrill/Dennis/Douglas/Grubor/Hunt-Davis/Lindsay/Scarlett/Trapmore/West (Rowing)
Iain Percy (Sailing)
Ben Ainslie (Sailing)
Shirley Robertson (Sailing)
Richard Faulds (Shooting)

All that needed was a quick google search for 'British gold medals Sydney Olympics'.

 

[Fester]

You never specified that it had to be in something that you cared about, only that it had to be something of note. And a World Cup in a major sport is something 'of note', no?

How about:

Jonathan Edwards (Triple Jump)
Denise Lewis (Heptathlon)
Audley Harrison (Boxing)
Pinsent/Redgrave/Cracknell/Foster (Rowing)
Jason Queally (1km track ITT)
Attrill/Dennis/Douglas/Grubor/Hunt-Davis/Lindsay/Scarlett/Trapmore/West (Rowing)
Iain Percy (Sailing)
Ben Ainslie (Sailing)
Shirley Robertson (Sailing)
Richard Faulds (Shooting)

All that needed was a quick google search for 'British gold medals Sydney Olympics'.

They're all toff sports where you need a horse or a boat and an estate to practice on they don't count.

 

[taiwan]

The more interesting question have [Britain] 3 quality pro's?

What are you qualifying as a quality pro?

Someone australian. I would have picked Millar and Hammond or maybe Millar and Cummings if the course is harder. Problem is, their trade teams may have something against Cav.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

They're all toff sports where you need a horse or a boat and an estate to practice on they don't count.

Track cycling and athletics?

 

[LugHugger]

Track cycling and athletics?

Ocker's don't get logic. Just ignore him - he'll go away and start drinking p*ss weak beer in a minute...

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Hugby has about 3 supporters in this country, next...

Try winning at least 1 game in this years ashes for example

Err, who holds the ashes currently? And who just managed to lose a test to ****stan?


F1 is more about the car then the drivers, most of them are within a few tenths so if you are in the best car its hard to lose.

Which country were those winning cars made in?

Anyways your missing the point, Cavendish is an arrogant ****er of the highest order who should not be allowed in our country. I would gladly have some no name rider from China win the world champs just to make sure that little weed doesn't win.

Your country was built by taking the scum and effluance of British society. Cav will merely continue a proud tradition

Cadel Evans for President

 

[El Pistolero]

^ Britain was build by the French.

 

[taiwan]

They should omit the "Cycling" from the title of this forum, it gives the impression that it hosts cycling discussion.

 

[Fester]

Track cycling and athletics?

Yes there are exceptions; Boxing and Athletics. The toffs wouldn't like either since athletics you have to move under your own steam, and boxing would disfigure them even further.

Track Cycling on the other hand is very inaccessible for a whole load of different reasons (tracks mainly,or lack there of). I suppose you could call it a first world sport.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

^ Britain was build by the French.

I assume you mean the Normans, who were a mostly Viking people, mixed with native Frankish (Germans) and Gallo-Roman (pre-French) people. The language was French but the ethnicity only a minority. Britain had surely already been built by the Romans anyway?

 

[boardhanger]

I assume you mean the Normans, who were a mostly Viking people, mixed with native Frankish (Germans) and Gallo-Roman (pre-French) people. The language was French but the ethnicity only a minority. Britain had surely already been built by the Romans anyway?

A fine job they made of it too. But I think the DNA they brought has made Brits lesser cyclists. Not a grand tour in them unlike the Irish

 

[El Pistolero]

I assume you mean the Normans, who were a mostly Viking people, mixed with native Frankish (Germans) and Gallo-Roman (pre-French) people. The language was French but the ethnicity only a minority. Britain had surely already been built by the Romans anyway?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angevin_Empire

French is as far as I know not an ethnicity and the nation state of France didn't exist during the middle ages and early modern times. The family that ruled in England originated from (modern day) France and they spoke French thus I'm calling them French. Just making a statement(by making a silly statement) about how silly it is to insult one's country by its past(the dude referring to Australia)

Cause as I see it, I'd rather have a nation(I should actually use the term kingdom here in the case of the occupation by the Plantagenet family) build up by convicts than one that's build up by the French!

Influence of the French ruling class on the English language(which is not a Romance language, but a lot of words come from the French language bc of the conquest of the British island) is huge.

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Anyhow... If Cavendish manages to win in Australia I'll eat up my hat. After I broke his knee! (sarcasm)
But if I have to be honest, I really don't want him to win. Sour grapes for what he did to Boonen!

Ps: Frankish people are not Germans. Frankish tribes (who originated from what the Romans referred to as Magna Germania which is an incorrect generalization anyway) for example "conquered"(most of the Germanic migrations to the Roman empire in the 4th and 5th century were "peaceful" mind you) parts of the Roman empire and assimilated with the local population as time flew by as they were in a large minority. It's all a mix really.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Influence of the French ruling class on the English language(which is not a Romance language, but a lot of words come from the French language bc of the conquest of the British island)

Explaining language origins and the like to me is pretty pointless - I'm a specialist in historical linguistics

English is Germanic, West Germanic in fact. Its closest extant relatives are Scots and Frisian. But it has a huge vocabulary because it is a fusion language that has taken much material - primarily lexical - from Romance languages. You have incidents where a Romance origin word and a Germanic origin word native to the language correspond, so one becomes more specific than the other ("phantom" as opposed to "ghost" for example). There's even one bizarre case where you've clearly borrowed the same word twice ("hostel" and "hotel", since the latter can only be from French hôtel, where the ô denotes the loss of an earlier s) at different phases in the development of the language.

My problem is sometimes where major linguistic shift or change has been caused, assuming that the political or social upheaval mirrors exactly the linguistic one. This, obviously, is not always the case; language and ethnicity can in many cases be mapped onto each other but are not exact matches in all but the most rare of cases.

 

[Winterfold]

I love that an ozzie can try to pretend that losing the Rugby WC in 2003 does not count or rugby is an unpopular ****tah's sport. Wind it in mate. You played like chumps in your own backyard.

BACK OT As for Cav in the Worlds, its going to be hard. Noone ele will want him within 500m of the lead at the end after MSR 2009, so the race will go bananas quite early. If he is to have a chance, it will be because HTC team mates and favours are called in. Uncle Bob Stapleton, there is one of those funny not a Brit knighthoods there for the taking if you get the chequebook and team orders out.

2011 is better, but he should still have ago this year. After all Spartacus was a sure thing in 20009 wasnt he?

 

[hrotha]

Honestly the influence of Old Norse was probably more important in shaping the English language as we know it. French contributed a bunch of vocabulary, relatively little of which you'll use in a normal conversation; the interaction between Old Norse and Old English shaped the most basic features of modern English's grammar. The influence of French is overstated.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

The influence of French is mostly lexical - but has happened intermittently throughout the history of the language.

In that four lines, however, you've used the following Romance elements:
Honestly
Influence
Probably
Important
Language
Contribute
Vocabulary
Conversation
Interaction
Features

The lexical element from Romance accounts for a huge percentage of the word stock. Grammatically though, the language is primarily still West Germanic, with some North Germanic traits from Norse.

 

[El Pistolero]

Honestly the influence of Old Norse was probably more important in shaping the English language as we know it. French contributed a bunch of vocabulary, relatively little of which you'll use in a normal conversation; the interaction between Old Norse and Old English shaped the most basic features of modern English's grammar. The influence of French is overstated.

Well, it's a West Germanic language, so of course it resembles more to Germanic languages. But the influence of the French language is not to be overlooked at: Impact on language --> cultural impact and the rule of the Plantagenet family was obviously a huge political impact. Now the only thing that's left is economical and social impact and we have Braudel's explanation of what makes a civilization!

But that's off topic sorry.

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With only a team of 3 people I don't see Cav winning. He needs a good team to fetch his watter bottles, keep him out of the wind, and help him get over the hills. He doesn't have that, so I don't even see him as a serious contender for this WC, but of course I could be totally wrong. Cycling is so hard to predict.

 

[boardhanger]

The influence of French is mostly lexical - but has happened intermittently throughout the history of the language.

In that four lines, however, you've used the following Romance elements:
Honestly
Influence
Probably
Important
Language
Contribute
Vocabulary
Conversation
Interaction
Features

The lexical element from Romance accounts for a huge percentage of the word stock. Grammatically though, the language is primarily still West Germanic, with some North Germanic traits from Norse.

I find it difficult enough to understand basic english guys and gals. Lets keep it plain, eh?!