Oxyglobin, does it work...HBOC thread

[BigBoat]

I'm thinking about one day, not now but later; getting a hold of some and trying it. Some have seen good gains with hemopure/oxyglobin.

 

[purduebadger]

Bad idea...

I have some experience using this product therapeutically in animals as a veterinarian. I can tell you right now that you'd be a fool to attempt it.

This is an ultrapurified bovine hemoglobin product that is carried within the plasma portion of the blood rather than within the cells. So you're right that you will increase your oxygen carrying capacity without increasing your hematocrit. It is used in small animal veterinary practice to treat patients with severe anemia.

There are significant drawbacks to use of this product:

First of all, it is quite expensive and difficult to obtain. The manufacturer has spent years and millions of dollars attempting to obtain FDA approval for use of the product in people and has nearly bankrupted itself in the process.

As far as "undetectable" status goes, once the product has been infused the plasma has a dark red to purple "hemolyzed" appearance.

Finally, every species reacts differently to the infusion. While it tends to be well tolerated in dogs, it can cause fatal pulmonary edema (fluid build-up within the lungs) in cats even at small doses.

You'd be far better off training at altitude, I can assure you of that!

 

[blackcat]

I have some experience using this product therapeutically in animals as a veterinarian. I can tell you right now that you'd be a fool to attempt it.

This is an ultrapurified bovine hemoglobin product that is carried within the plasma portion of the blood rather than within the cells. So you're right that you will increase your oxygen carrying capacity without increasing your hematocrit. It is used in small animal veterinary practice to treat patients with severe anemia.

There are significant drawbacks to use of this product:

First of all, it is quite expensive and difficult to obtain. The manufacturer has spent years and millions of dollars attempting to obtain FDA approval for use of the product in people and has nearly bankrupted itself in the process.

As far as "undetectable" status goes, once the product has been infused the plasma has a dark red to purple "hemolyzed" appearance.

Finally, every species reacts differently to the infusion. While it tends to be well tolerated in dogs, it can cause fatal pulmonary edema (fluid build-up within the lungs) in cats even at small doses.

You'd be far better off training at altitude, I can assure you of that!

tautolology no?

 

[Cobblestones]

I'm thinking about one day, not now but later; getting a hold of some and trying it. Some have seen good gains with hemopure/oxyglobin.

I think you'd be insane to try something like that. But if you do, tell us what it did for you

 

[Turd Ferguson]

I hope your joking around about trying to get ahold of and use the product pictured above. I guess if you want to stomp that Wednesday night group ride then by all means....

There is a misconception that just taking some select PED's will shoot you right to the top from off the couch. The benefits are much greater for a trained super athlete and plus each substance may or may not work for an individual the same way that it works for someone else. DON'T DO IT BB!?

 

[workingclasshero]

now that is what i call taking one for the team bigboat. and the team is what? the cyclingnews message board?



keep us posted!!

 

[BigBoat]

No, I was kidding. I used the dog product as a joke.

Finally, every species reacts differently to the infusion.

What about hemopure though? Same effect but its designed for humans.

 

[Cobblestones]

Btw. someone should try it at the Iditarod. Anyone here from Alaska?

 

[BroDeal]

I think you'd be insane to try something like that. But if you do, tell us what it did for you

He should tell us right before he uses it. If he stops posting then we can assume things did not work out so well.

I remember looking at a white paper on potential profitability for one of these products. I seem to remember the company's plan was to sell two versions of the product, one for veterinary use and one for human medical use. The human version was going to be substantially more expensive than the veterinary version. The paper gave estimates for potential market sizes and such.