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P McQ practically defends doping

May 26, 2010
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according to the CN aricle it appears to me that UCIs P McQ is trying to defend dopinbg with statements like the following;

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/afld-wants-additional-controls-at-tour-de-france

"We're not going to work with somebody who we have lost complete confidence in. Somebody, who, from our point of view is out to damage cycling and indeed to damage the Tour de France by his actions," UCI president Pat McQuaid said.

Someone needs to investigate the UCI and P McQ, the guys is a joke...:mad:

the more testing the better and if anyone disagrees they are cheats or worse protecting cheating...
 
hes not defending doping,the test will be still done by world antidoping agency

i wonder how the riders respond to even more testing coz they were *****ing before that there are too many tests during tour and they wake them up early in the morning,stuff like that
 
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Pat McQuaid should be beheaded.

Man, I mean, I am all willing to fight for a clean sport, but...I am not calling for a jihad or anything. Cool out man, its not like he drew a picture of Mohammed or something.
 
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You have to be kidding....

Pat McQuaid said:
We're not going to work with somebody who we have lost complete confidence in. Somebody, who, from our point of view is out to damage cycling and indeed to damage the Tour de France by his actions,

I assumed he was referring to FLandis, but the pronoun here is AFLD?
 
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Benotti69 said:
according to the CN aricle it appears to me that UCIs P McQ is trying to defend dopinbg with statements like the following;

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/afld-wants-additional-controls-at-tour-de-france

"We're not going to work with somebody who we have lost complete confidence in. Somebody, who, from our point of view is out to damage cycling and indeed to damage the Tour de France by his actions," UCI president Pat McQuaid said.

Someone needs to investigate the UCI and P McQ, the guys is a joke...:mad:

the more testing the better and if anyone disagrees they are cheats or worse protecting cheating...

I actually agree with Pat on this one (and I don't often). Has nothing to do with defending doping.
 
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goober said:
I actually agree with Pat on this one (and I don't often). Has nothing to do with defending doping.

why do you agree?

sounds to me like the UCI doesn't want to work with an organization that might not have protecting the sports celebrity riders from scandal as its primary aim.
 
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"We're not going to work with somebody who we have lost complete confidence in. Somebody, who, from our point of view is out to damage cycling and indeed to damage the Tour de France by his actions," UCI president Pat McQuaid said.

'We', 'from our point of view' = McQuaid, Bruyneel, Armstrong, Sarkozy

'his' = Pierre Bordry. Starved of cash and obstructed at every turn.

Another clean Tour then.
 
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Is the UCI blatantly corrupt ? They discredit an agency that will shed light on blatant cheating. They discredit an agency which will test riders unannounced. Who holds the control ?

French Anti Doping Agency

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agence_Française_de_Lutte_contre_le_Dopage


what a mess

"In 2010, a threatened reduction in the grant from the French government, which had decided against increasing a tax on television rights for sports that was to fund it, placed the future of AFLD in doubt."
 
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This is good timing by the AFLD, I don't see how in the current environment that the UCI can refuse the request, they are just going to lose even more credibility. But if they did refuse, surely WADA could not stand in the way of AFLD's right to conduct tests.

Will be an interesting few weeks ahead until the start anyway.
 
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Mongol_Waaijer said:
why do you agree?

sounds to me like the UCI doesn't want to work with an organization that might not have protecting the sports celebrity riders from scandal as its primary aim.

For many reasons but the biggest is they are not an International organization and have shown many biases in the past to non-french riders -especially Armstrong guilty of doping or not. I wont give a history lesson on AFLD actions in the past; but, I agree with Pat. The UCI and WADA are in place as international organizations. It would be like, though not as bad, as letting China perform dopie testing during an Olympics held in China.
 
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tubularglue said:
"In 2010, a threatened reduction in the grant from the French government, which had decided against increasing a tax on television rights for sports that was to fund it, placed the future of AFLD in doubt."

So no excuse anymore for French riders...
 
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goober said:
For many reasons but the biggest is they are not an International organization and have shown many biases in the past to non-french riders -especially Armstrong guilty of doping or not. I wont give a history lesson on AFLD actions in the past; but, I agree with Pat. The UCI and WADA are in place as international organizations. It would be like, though not as bad, as letting China perform dopie testing during an Olympics held in China.

Do you mean like the special treatment the UCI gave Astana last year in the TdF or Armstrong over his career? You've got to be taking the p*iss suggesting that the AFLD is biased. Do please provide examples of the AFLD actions in the past which comprimised the impartiality of their drug testing.
 
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Do you mean like the special treatment the UCI gave Astana last year in the TdF or Armstrong over his career? You've got to be taking the p*iss suggesting that the AFLD is biased. Do please provide examples of the AFLD actions in the past which comprimised the impartiality of their drug testing.

Clearly they play a large part in the French conspiracy to take down Lance and Floyd and Tyler and all the other clean and right living American sportsmen.
 
I think Condorman pretty much nailed it. Anyone with any objective brain can see that something completely stinks to the core here. I'm reminded of this famous speech.

Anyone watching those 30 seconds at the time will remember how everyone reacted.

Pat and the UCI seem to be in a very similar situation. And let's face it, at this point they are practically a political organization.

I'm also reminded of Richard Virenque calmly explaining on the stand that in cycling parlance no positive = no doping. It appears to be the same with McQauid and the UCI.

The UCI needs a total overhaul. The entire board need to be purged, Pat needs to go, and a completely new leadership needs to come in and start almost from scratch.
 
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I'm not sure why CN made this a story now, as the request happened some time ago immediately after a WADA meeting where they clarified the code. I've been harassing people on twitter about it.

This from Associated Press back on May 12.

The French anti-doping agency has asked the International Cycling Union for authorization to perform additional tests during the Tour de France.

AFLD president Pierre Bordry told The Associated Press on Wednesday that he sent an email to International Cycling Union ( UCI) counterpart Pat McQuaid to offer him the additional drug tests "in accordance with the World Anti-Doping Code."

Bordry said he would turn to the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) if McQuaid refuses his proposal.

The UCI will be in charge of the doping tests during the three-week race next July.

AFLD and UCI have clashed since Bordry accused UCI drug testers of favouring Lance Armstrong's former team Astana during last year's Tour.

"We are a national agency and we are not allowed to supervise the drug tests during international competition, but we can ask for extra controls," McQuaid said in a phone interview. "[WADA] clarified this point last weekend during a meeting of its executive committee."

According to Bordry, the UCI also refused to allow the French agency the right to use the computer files designed to locate riders.

"We want to control the riders who will be training in France before the race starts," Bordry said. "Without those files, it will be difficult to find them but we'll try and find a solution."

Bordry said the AFLD was able to perform only 13 out-of-competition doping tests before last year's race because the UCI refused to fully co-operate with the agency.

"They were giving us details of the riders' location only on the eve of the tests," said Bordry, adding that the AFLD did 80 out-of-competition doping tests prior the 2008 race when it was in charge of the testing program.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/amateur/story/2010/05/12/sp-drug-tests-tourdefrance.html

The details about the deadlines of 35 days before the race and 21 days before are here.

Accordingly, the AFLD 35 days before the Tour start in Rotterdam on 3 Should this be denied, she has to turn up to 21 days before the race the way the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).

http://www.focus.de/sport/mehrsport...dopingkontrollen-bei-der-tour_aid_507730.html

Last Sunday was the 35 day mark, but the AFLD sent McQuaid the e-mail ages ago, and the media told him it existed before he even saw it. If the UCI fails to act, the WADA can give authorization June 12.

The WADA is already keeping a close eye on the UCI testing for the Tour. My saved link from Le Temps doesn't work, but some weeks ago it was announced that WADA will have someone from AMA along for every test the UCI does at the Tour de France to make sure everything is done properly and to correct the UCI testers if there's a mistake.

With the WADA watching the UCI like a hawk, additional targeted controls by the AFLD, the OCLAESP doing police work, and the labs trying to come up with tests for microdosing and own blood infusions, I'd feel better as a fan about this Tour de France than any other.

You can help put pressure on the UCIto make an early decision (giving the AFLD more days to test pre-race) by sending a tweet to @UCI-cycling .
 
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its becoming pretty obvious the UCI, Bruyneel, and Lance are in bed together, alot. horrible 3 way image, sorry.

i have refused to pay my club racing license this year as i couldn't stand having something with the name UCI on it and my name on it together. UCI can go to hell.
 
Yeah, McQuaid is a major douche, but can you blame him? Look at the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, ATP, FIFA, etc. They all have minimal testing and minimal penalties. Positives are bad for business and fans in those sports don't really care.
 
Good point. Seems FIFA, the NBA and NFL learned that long ago.

:mad:

This year is going to be interesting to see what kind of police surveillance there is, and just how many raids there are.

Anyone want to bet that somewhere in France OCLAESP has gone to the French courts, applied for, and received, permission to wiretap or use video surveillance on specific teams, riders and support personnel when in the country?
 
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i get your point about FIFA, NBA...etc, but cycling is different in that comparatively MASSIVE advantages can be made by using PEDs compared to the gains a tennis player or a football player gets on a field. thats why its so much worse.
 

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Yeah, McQuaid is a major douche, but can you blame him? Look at the NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, ATP, FIFA, etc. They all have minimal testing and minimal penalties. Positives are bad for business and fans in those sports don't really care.

that's true, the fans in THOSE spors don't seem the care, the problem for Patty is that in this sport the fans do care, or at least seem to care
 
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the fans care, the AFLD seem to care but are not allowed to contribute. this sport is a sham. if floyds claims go nowhere i am out of this sport completely. The UCI is so complicit it may as well be selling the EPO themselves.