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He was taking turns with him. What race are some of y'all watching?Zinoviev Letter said:Nairo sitting on Bernal’s wheel the whole way up and then sprinting past him for 12th or something. Lol.
Zinoviev Letter said:Nairo sitting on Bernal’s wheel the whole way up and then sprinting past him for 12th or something. Lol.
*** the quick said:Logic-is-your-friend said:If you don't see the difference between these two considered as GC riders, then i advise you to get your eyes checked*** the quick said:Logic-is-your-friend said:Does Kwiatkovsky even want to be a GC rider? I mean, why would they even favor him over Bernal, who could use these small GC races to boost confidence, gain experience in defending a lead etc... or would they just throw Kwiatkovski a bone and assume Bernal's time will come anyway?
Stage races GC-wise, Bernal has won Amgen (WT) 2018, Sibiu (2.1, Romania) 2017 and Colombia (2.1) 2018 (+ stage wins). And Avenir 2017, of course.
Kwiato has won Tirreno (WT) 2018, Poland (WT) 2018, Algarve (2.1) 2018 and 2014 (+ stage wins).
Can't really see the difference between these two considered as GC riders, especially as far as one-week races are concerned.
Obviously, Bernal will most likely develop (very) shortly into a rider capable of winning any GT - while Kwiato most likely will not. But in one-week races, I can easily see both of them winning GC. "Throwing a bone" (to Kwiatkowski) vs. "boosting confidence and gaining experience in defending a lead" (for Bernal) does not sound fair enough.
If I were Sky, I would see no reason to favour Bernal over Kwiatkowski, or to favour Kwiatkowski over Bernal.
Bernal went to the TDF as a domestique and he finished 15th.
Kwiatkowski went to the Vuelta as leader and he finished 43rd.
Anyway, i'm not saying Kwitakowski should necessarilly ride for Bernal. I'm just saying Bernal shouldn't ride for Kwiatkowski.
Well, I get my eyes checked and I still see both of them as GC guys in one-week stage races (which the Paris-Nice is and which is being discussed in this thread). Regarding Grand Tours - which the Paris-Nice is not - I made it clear that Bernal already is (and most likely always will be) definitely better GC candidate.
If Bernal is a designated GC guy, Kwiatkowski should ride for him. If Kwiatkowski is given with a GC contender role, Bernal should ride for him. That's very simple rule IMO.
I think we watched different races. I saw Nairo pull through.Zinoviev Letter said:Nairo sitting on Bernal’s wheel the whole way up and then sprinting past him for 12th or something. Lol.
DNP-Old said:He was taking turns with him. What race are some of y'all watching?Zinoviev Letter said:Nairo sitting on Bernal’s wheel the whole way up and then sprinting past him for 12th or something. Lol.
Lol nairo -1s to GilbertDNP-Old said:He was taking turns with him. What race are some of y'all watching?Zinoviev Letter said:Nairo sitting on Bernal’s wheel the whole way up and then sprinting past him for 12th or something. Lol.
Because of the sheer hilarity of the idea that he was Skys primary concern*** the quick said:Red Rick said:Show me more footage of Kwiatkowski failing
Why, exactly?
Sosa pulled off, Bernal took the lead, then Nairo took a pull, then Bernal took a pull, then Nairo pulled to the line.Zinoviev Letter said:DNP-Old said:He was taking turns with him. What race are some of y'all watching?Zinoviev Letter said:Nairo sitting on Bernal’s wheel the whole way up and then sprinting past him for 12th or something. Lol.
When was he taking turns with him? When he was sitting on Sky wheels with Sosa in front? Or when he was sitting on Egan’s wheel for the last km?
When they were together at the front.DNP-Old said:He was taking turns with him. What race are some of y'all watching?Zinoviev Letter said:Nairo sitting on Bernal’s wheel the whole way up and then sprinting past him for 12th or something. Lol.
When was he taking turns with him? When he was sitting on Sky wheels with Sosa in front? Or when he was sitting on Egan’s wheel for the last km?
Logic-is-your-friend said:*** the quick said:Logic-is-your-friend said:If you don't see the difference between these two considered as GC riders, then i advise you to get your eyes checked*** the quick said:Logic-is-your-friend said:Does Kwiatkovsky even want to be a GC rider? I mean, why would they even favor him over Bernal, who could use these small GC races to boost confidence, gain experience in defending a lead etc... or would they just throw Kwiatkovski a bone and assume Bernal's time will come anyway?
Stage races GC-wise, Bernal has won Amgen (WT) 2018, Sibiu (2.1, Romania) 2017 and Colombia (2.1) 2018 (+ stage wins). And Avenir 2017, of course.
Kwiato has won Tirreno (WT) 2018, Poland (WT) 2018, Algarve (2.1) 2018 and 2014 (+ stage wins).
Can't really see the difference between these two considered as GC riders, especially as far as one-week races are concerned.
Obviously, Bernal will most likely develop (very) shortly into a rider capable of winning any GT - while Kwiato most likely will not. But in one-week races, I can easily see both of them winning GC. "Throwing a bone" (to Kwiatkowski) vs. "boosting confidence and gaining experience in defending a lead" (for Bernal) does not sound fair enough.
If I were Sky, I would see no reason to favour Bernal over Kwiatkowski, or to favour Kwiatkowski over Bernal.
Bernal went to the TDF as a domestique and he finished 15th.
Kwiatkowski went to the Vuelta as leader and he finished 43rd.
Anyway, i'm not saying Kwitakowski should necessarilly ride for Bernal. I'm just saying Bernal shouldn't ride for Kwiatkowski.
Well, I get my eyes checked and I still see both of them as GC guys in one-week stage races (which the Paris-Nice is and which is being discussed in this thread). Regarding Grand Tours - which the Paris-Nice is not - I made it clear that Bernal already is (and most likely always will be) definitely better GC candidate.
If Bernal is a designated GC guy, Kwiatkowski should ride for him. If Kwiatkowski is given with a GC contender role, Bernal should ride for him. That's very simple rule IMO.
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