Paris-Nice 2023, March 5-12

[nightowl]

What is the plan here for Ineos? They’re just burning riders for nothing at the moment?

 

[Netserk]

Ineos have reduced the peloton:

 

[Netserk]

Does Pogi have anyone other than Grossschartner in the group?

 

[Samamba]

In before Martinez is Ineos' best rider around 7th place.

 

[Netserk]

Does Pogi have anyone other than Grossschartner in the group?

Bjerg is there too.

 

[Netserk]

In before Martinez is Ineos' best rider around 7th place.

Fewer helpers should mean a more tactical ascent. That seems like an obviously good scenario for them.

 

[BR2]

No idea what Ineos is doing.

 

[Samamba]

Fewer helpers should mean a more tactical ascent. That seems like an obviously good scenario for them.

Doubt a tactical final matters when you only have Martinez with descent legs. Sivakov looked horrible few days ago.

 

[Netserk]

Doubt a tactical final matters when you only have Martinez with descent legs. Sivakov looked horrible few days ago.

Gaudu was also the only FdJ rider with good legs the other day, but a tactical ascent still benefited him.

 

[Samamba]

Lol 2nd group just comes back between the cars

 

[DNP-Old]

If Skjelmose didn't break something I'll be amazed.

 

[nightowl]

Eek that crash just reminds me how easy it would be to flip over those barriers

 

[Samamba]

This is why De Gendt doesn't ride in the peloton!

 

[RedheadDane]

Skjelmose is not fine...
But from what I understand, he's got a bike, and is still in the race.

Nevermind, he's out...

 

[BR2]

"Man könnte sogar von einer Art Machtergreifung des Franzosen sprechen." Ja, könnte man. Muss man aber echt nicht.

sorry for the German

 

[Netserk]

Couillole, baby!

 

[Red Rick]

Can't imagine anything other than Jumbo launching Vingegaard early

 

[Didinho]

Pogi isolated already.

This Foss guy could be a good time trialist me thinks.

 

[BR2]

So far the team profiting seems to be Groupama. It's interesting how some teams always feel responsible or important enough (like Ineos) to do their thing, independent from the situation, while others behave / are treated like they aren't even relevant for the race.

 

[KZD]

Martinez dropped. Ineos having a few bad days in PN and Tirreno.

 

[Netserk]

Too bad for Martinez. I hope he'll find the legs for Itzulia.

 

[limak_]

This Foss guy could be a good time trialist me thinks.

Yeah, he might be a decent one. But imo not anywhere close to beat guys like little Merckx, Ganna or Kung.

 

[perico]

For all the hype he’s received since he signed with Ineos, Martinez has yet to really live up to expectations. I think more was expected than your random 1 week GC rider who occasionally can pull off a win in the Basque Country

 

[Netserk]

For all the hype he’s received since he signed with Ineos, Martinez has yet to really live up to expectations. I think more was expected than your random 1 week GC rider who occasionally can pull off a win in the Basque Country

So he should have delivered more in GTs?

He was clearly ill in the Tour last year, and I think he did quite fine in the Giro in 2021.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

For all the hype he’s received since he signed with Ineos, Martinez has yet to really live up to expectations. I think more was expected than your random 1 week GC rider who occasionally can pull off a win in the Basque Country

A lot of the hype has also been based on how he rode in support of Bernal in the 2021 Giro.
His results in non-GT races haven't been very bad afterwards, but he obviously needs to step up if he wants to be a challenger in the Tour this year.