Paris-Nice 2025, March 9-16

[Salvarani]

It's cheaper than in Norway and Sweden.

Maybe things like beer, but otherwise the DKK been valued quite high in comparison.

 

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They definitely did a better job with the restart this time, and the race director explained (in French) exactly how they would do the restart with time gaps. Much better than we usually get on these kind of occassions.

yeah, definitely, I thought so too.

Naesen (riders' representative in the peloton) was not happy with how it went, though, as there apparently was not enough time given for everyone to get ready for the restart, and then other teams took advantage of the situation.

Oliver Naesen is vlijmscherp na neutralisatie en herstart: "0,0 solidariteit: dit is koersvervalsing" | sporza

Ze trilden aan de finish niet meer zoals ze onderweg hadden gedaan, maar de renners in Parijs-Nice hebben een helse dag achter de rug. Dat de koers een tijdlang geneutraliseerd werd, was de juiste beslissing, zo klonk het in koor. Maar Oliver Naesen hekelt wat er meteen daarna gebeurd is.

sporza.be

 

[KZD]

Very happy to see Almeida beat Vingegaard here. Its a real shame that UAE lost so much time yesterday because he has the legs to push the Dane to the limit in this race.

 

[Samamba]

yeah, definitely, I thought so too.

Naesen (riders' representative in the peloton) was not happy with how it went, though, as there apparently was not enough time given for everyone to get ready for the restart, and then other teams took advantage of the situation.

Oliver Naesen is vlijmscherp na neutralisatie en herstart: "0,0 solidariteit: dit is koersvervalsing" | sporza

Ze trilden aan de finish niet meer zoals ze onderweg hadden gedaan, maar de renners in Parijs-Nice hebben een helse dag achter de rug. Dat de koers een tijdlang geneutraliseerd werd, was de juiste beslissing, zo klonk het in koor. Maar Oliver Naesen hekelt wat er meteen daarna gebeurd is.

sporza.be

Problem isn't really the organizers then (I'm sure they didn't tell anyone to go sit in their cars), but other riders/teams like Movistar who thought it was a good idea to basically attack on a neutralized descent.

 

[Netserk]

yeah, definitely, I thought so too.

Naesen (riders' representative in the peloton) was not happy with how it went, though, as there apparently was not enough time given for everyone to get ready for the restart, and then other teams took advantage of the situation.

Oliver Naesen is vlijmscherp na neutralisatie en herstart: "0,0 solidariteit: dit is koersvervalsing" | sporza

Ze trilden aan de finish niet meer zoals ze onderweg hadden gedaan, maar de renners in Parijs-Nice hebben een helse dag achter de rug. Dat de koers een tijdlang geneutraliseerd werd, was de juiste beslissing, zo klonk het in koor. Maar Oliver Naesen hekelt wat er meteen daarna gebeurd is.

sporza.be

I think this is another case where it would be better if the riders only had the official race radio in their ears. Then everyone gets the same message at the same time.

 

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Problem isn't really the organizers then (I'm sure they didn't tell anyone to go sit in their cars), but other riders/teams like Movistar who thought it was a good idea to basically attack on a neutralized descent.

yeah, there was a press conference afterwards, and the organization said that detailed information were transmitted to the teams via radio tour, and it was up to them to inform their riders

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEiiQ5TtulE


As far as I remember, the Ag2R car was the one which crashed, though, so maybe they were just busy with other stuff.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Tomorrow's stage will be very interesting. I hope Almeida can be good enough, that hill is not good for him.

 

[armchairclimber]

Well that was an entertaining read. The last few kms were nearly as much fun.
Nyhaven is expensive, but a nice place for herring and beers. There, I've said it.
And I didn't see any rats.

Good from Martinez today. Shame about the TTT.

 

[YavorD]

Tomorrow's stage will be very interesting. I hope Almeida can be good enough, that hill is not good for him.

I like the stage but it's really bad for him with all these short and steep hills.

I hope he can perform well though

 

[Netserk]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896664826287689974

View: https://x.com/lapreuvepar21/status/1896664826287689974

 

[tobydawq]

Tomorrow's stage looks amazing. Strange to have a tappa dei muri in PN and not in Tirreno.

 

[Sciatic]

yeah, there was a press conference afterwards, and the organization said that detailed information were transmitted to the teams via radio tour, and it was up to them to inform their riders

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEiiQ5TtulE


As far as I remember, the Ag2R car was the one which crashed, though, so maybe they were just busy with other stuff.

In addition to the teams, the riders themselves have a certain degree of responsibility here too. Since there was no specific restart time it would make sense to stay close to the front of the stoppage point, even if folks needed to go back to cars to get warmer clothes and food. It's like getting to the airport and despite the plane already being there, something needed fixing and the airline posted that there is a 3-hour delay. One could go to a distant airport restaurant order a big meal, have several beers, and saunter back to the gate in 2 hrs. I almost missed a flight once because they ended up fixing the problem much more quickly than anticipated so instead of a 3-yr delay they were boarding folks just 45 minutes after the original departure time. When there is a delay--in sport, in life, where ever--the length of a delay is always an estimate. Riders who didn't want to get left behind or scrambling madly when the race restarted needed to be somewhat cognizant of that.

 

[Sciatic]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896664826287689974

View: https://x.com/lapreuvepar21/status/1896664826287689974

Given that there is still chance of snow and course adjustments for the weekend stages, this could be the decisive stage for the overall. Not just because of this final mur, but also the 3-4 short, steep climbs in the preceding 50 km.

 

[ice&fire]

Note to self: when Vingegaard attacks near the finish and gets a gap don't stop watching.

 

[topcat]

Isn't Vingo so much more exciting than Pog? When he's strong he attacks, when he's struggling, he attacks. If getting beaten by Joao f...ing Almeida doesn't shock and excite you, I don't think cycling is the sport for you.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Tomorrow's stage will be very interesting. I hope Almeida can be good enough, that hill is not good for him.

Why is it not good for him? Almeida came 2nd, just 1 second behind Pidcock on Malhao in '23, and ahead of Van Wilder, Buitrago, Dani Martinez... riders who supposedly do well on such a finish. Tomorrow is only 800m shorter than Malhao. I doubt his direct competitors have any real advantage here.

 

[Sciatic]

Why is it not good for him? Almeida came 2nd, just 1 second behind Pidcock on Malhao in '23, and ahead of Van Wilder, Buitrago, Dani Martinez... riders who supposedly do well on such a finish. Tomorrow is only 800m shorter than Malhao. I doubt his direct competitors have any real advantage here.

And he looks to be the strongest right now.

 

[Lequack]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1899943735493845494

View: https://x.com/NBCSCycling/status/1899943735493845494

 

[Tricycle Rider]

In addition to the teams, the riders themselves have a certain degree of responsibility here too. Since there was no specific restart time it would make sense to stay close to the front of the stoppage point, even if folks needed to go back to cars to get warmer clothes and food. It's like getting to the airport and despite the plane already being there, something needed fixing and the airline posted that there is a 3-hour delay. One could go to a distant airport restaurant order a big meal, have several beers, and saunter back to the gate in 2 hrs. I almost missed a flight once because they ended up fixing the problem much more quickly than anticipated so instead of a 3-yr delay they were boarding folks just 45 minutes after the original departure time. When there is a delay--in sport, in life, where ever--the length of a delay is always an estimate. Riders who didn't want to get left behind or scrambling madly when the race restarted needed to be somewhat cognizant of that.

May I ask which airline you were traveling with?

 

[Sciatic]

May I ask which airline you were traveling with?

Sorry, can’t remember, but it was a domestic U.S. flight.

ed I just caught that

 

[Peyroteo94]

Why is it not good for him? Almeida came 2nd, just 1 second behind Pidcock on Malhao in '23, and ahead of Van Wilder, Buitrago, Dani Martinez... riders who supposedly do well on such a finish. Tomorrow is only 800m shorter than Malhao. I doubt his direct competitors have any real advantage here.

The final climb is his kryptonite. Too steep and very short and he can't recover after being left behind in the bottom of the climb. He has very problems with positioning himself.
But João is very unreliable. He is always there but we never know where he will give an incredible performance or a bad performance. Volta a Valenciana is a perfect example of that.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Sorry, can’t remember, but it was a domestic U.S. flight.

ed I just caught that

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

Where exactly is all this Dane bashing you claim to see?

I certainly don't feel offended, so I think it's a massive overreaction on your part to take it so seriously.

Well my point was more about the language than about danes, but admittedly this probably got lost because of my original post, which was a reaction to the entire rat talk, which did get connected to Danes. But I guess, thinking about it, isn't Samucuenca a dane as well? Because it was the "danes are cold calculating mice" post that made me post this. Becaus I thought this was getting somewhat out of hand.. The rest was a general comment about language and civility. I don't see how I massively overreacted just because I have a critical opinion about something that I articulated as a general point.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

The final climb is his kryptonite. Too steep and very short and he can't recover after being left behind in the bottom of the climb. He has very problems with positioning himself.
But João is very unreliable. He is always there but we never know where he will give an incredible performance or a bad performance. Volta a Valenciana is a perfect example of that.

I have seen him do short steep climbs very well on more than one occasion. He is quite capable of positioning himself well enough when he wants to. On longer climbs it is simply not worth his trouble, because he is used to pacing himself for most of the climb, ignoring tempo changes, until he knows the time is there for him to put all that saved energy towards his final acceleration. Him needing a long climb to fight back is simply a misconception. He is quite punchy and his jojo-ing on longer climbs is not due to a lack of ability, but a very well thought through tactic of his.

When in his career is Van Wilder going to make a step forward

He's been below par on numerous occasions (last year he was good in Romandie and UAE but disappointing the rest of the season) but i would not take this result of an indication either way. He's historically not thrived in cold and wet. And on top of that, in his interview he also indicated that the entire situation with the neutralisation was unclear and poorly communicated, which made the timing of the last thing he ate unfortunate, resulting in him running on empty the final part of the climb. Let's see how it goes tomorrow and on the last day of PN.

 

[Rob5091]

Who is Joao Almeida? Does Joao Almeida know?!
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/racin...iumphs-on-a-rain-soaked-stage-4-of-paris-nice

I am ready to show who João Almeida is.