Just sayin.....Wout is a coiled spring right now, he looks so good. I think it’s his to win.
Just sayin.....Wout is a coiled spring right now, he looks so good. I think it’s his to win.
del Grosso had a flat rear tire, according to that same interview. So the front wheel was all he had left to give.But a lot of that time was due to panic. If Jasper didn't stop and Del Grosso gives him his bike, he would lose way less
That was not my point. Sport as a competition makes sense if a better sportsman wins. If the logic that rewards a lesser sportsman prevails, sport looses and mediocracy (and show) takes over.A bit of study, history of bike racing, it is a sport of losers by the numbers, majority of riders never win or go years in between results. That is the biggest mental crush of the competition. You win, win can't stop winning as a talented junior or elite amateur and you become pro, the best go to World Tour level and you never win again, all the praise and adulation comes to a sudden stop. People who do even a cursory investigation, see guys like Wout have 52 pro wins, rest of Visma with some exceptions have 0-4 wins over their career.
A looser would be more a descriptor of a good break dancer or drunk person at a night club.
Really strong results for Mick van *** and Bissegger confirming his top10 from last year's edition.
Not even if his name was *** van Mijke would it be hit by the censor...Eh, what?
"Dijke" doesn't usually get hit by the sensor.
Rhymes with Mick, I‘d guessEh, what?
"Dijke" doesn't usually get hit by the sensor.
Nobody panicked, opposite, teammate dismounted like a well trained machine, MvdP cool under pressure put his head end in jersey pocket, replaced it after he got rolling on correct bike. Guy doesn't get nervous about anything, he has laser focus, saw a bunch of other chasers like Ganna jittery on the ground or off the road. Riding someone else's bike is a last resort for these guys,But a lot of that time was due to panic. If Jasper didn't stop and Del Grosso gives him his bike, he would lose way less
Wow.. Is that a point anyone who finished in the top @20, made the final selection are all.. Great sportsmen. The losing riders all went out of their way to shake hands, occasional hug, but all felt good, maybe not with the result but the battle for sure. The women's race coverage had some slightly different camera coverage and angles. Trek rider crashed, motorcycle hit her fallen bike, unavoidable because of the road surface and width of the road. Bicycles in all races took a beating, the rapid response by teams, side road support, feed people, Shimano neutral support couldn't have been better, riders had minimal wait times for bikes or wheels..That was not my point. Sport as a competition makes sense if a better sportsman wins. If the logic that rewards a lesser sportsman prevails, sport looses and mediocracy (and show) takes over.
Without Pog WvA never wins today (and this I could not say for VdP's win last year). He should recognise that. Since he hasn't, I assume he believes he deserved it. If this logic prevails, the sport is dead.
He's a brilliant ambassador for the sport. I'm glad he finally has his Roubaix!Nobody panicked, opposite, teammate dismounted like a well trained machine, MvdP cool under pressure put his head end in jersey pocket, replaced it after he got rolling on correct bike. Guy doesn't get nervous about anything, he has laser focus, saw a bunch of other chasers like Ganna jittery on the ground or off the road. Riding someone else's bike is a last resort for these guys,
Wow.. Is that a point anyone who finished in the top @20, made the final selection are all.. Great sportsmen. The losing riders all went out of their way to shake hands, occasional hug, but all felt good, maybe not with the result but the battle for sure. The women's race coverage had some slightly different camera coverage and angles. Trek rider crashed, motorcycle hit her fallen bike, unavoidable because of the road surface and width of the road. Bicycles in all races took a beating, the rapid response by teams, side road support, feed people, Shimano neutral support couldn't have been better, riders had minimal wait times for bikes or wheels..
If you are on planet earth, if you can't chase down a peak performing Wout Van Aert and rainbow wearing flying gazelle like Pogacar and you feel disappointed by coming close, get counseling. All the best riders raced excellent, the differences, the mistakes made by top ten were in the fraction of a second measurement scale, A bad line, bad braking, left the road because they tried to cheat cobbles and rode narrow dirt strip, made a move that works on the road, crashes you on cobbles.. And pursuit times went way up, A gap on roads made of rocks is harder to close than standard pavement.. @30 seconds is more like 2 minutes on cobbles. I feel for what I saw before, during and after the race all the best sportsmen were represented with dignity, honor, self respect and respect for others, the institution of the race..let his dedication rip at your heartstrings..
@3 minute interview and this guy absolutely hits every touchstone of being a worthy sportsman.. This is in his heart, in his mind, he is saying this immediately after racing, total sincerity.
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iOj23IP1j-A&pp=ygUNd291dCB2YW4gYWVydA%3D%3D
I was, am blown away
"Everybody coming to the line has his own story, and that's why it's beautiful."Nobody panicked, opposite, teammate dismounted like a well trained machine, MvdP cool under pressure put his head end in jersey pocket, replaced it after he got rolling on correct bike. Guy doesn't get nervous about anything, he has laser focus, saw a bunch of other chasers like Ganna jittery on the ground or off the road. Riding someone else's bike is a last resort for these guys,
Wow.. Is that a point anyone who finished in the top @20, made the final selection are all.. Great sportsmen. The losing riders all went out of their way to shake hands, occasional hug, but all felt good, maybe not with the result but the battle for sure. The women's race coverage had some slightly different camera coverage and angles. Trek rider crashed, motorcycle hit her fallen bike, unavoidable because of the road surface and width of the road. Bicycles in all races took a beating, the rapid response by teams, side road support, feed people, Shimano neutral support couldn't have been better, riders had minimal wait times for bikes or wheels..
If you are on planet earth, if you can't chase down a peak performing Wout Van Aert and rainbow wearing flying gazelle like Pogacar and you feel disappointed by coming close, get counseling. All the best riders raced excellent, the differences, the mistakes made by top ten were in the fraction of a second measurement scale, A bad line, bad braking, left the road because they tried to cheat cobbles and rode narrow dirt strip, made a move that works on the road, crashes you on cobbles.. And pursuit times went way up, A gap on roads made of rocks is harder to close than standard pavement.. @30 seconds is more like 2 minutes on cobbles. I feel for what I saw before, during and after the race all the best sportsmen were represented with dignity, honor, self respect and respect for others, the institution of the race..let his dedication rip at your heartstrings..
@3 minute interview and this guy absolutely hits every touchstone of being a worthy sportsman.. This is in his heart, in his mind, he is saying this immediately after racing, total sincerity.
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iOj23IP1j-A&pp=ygUNd291dCB2YW4gYWVydA%3D%3D
I was, am blown away
Lots of opinions about who is strongest, who suffered the most time-losing situations, etc. It still takes an unusually strong and focused rider to win. And a sh*tload of luck. That goes for MvP who was just on the backside of that perfect day, again. Kudos to Wout and his team.Well done WVA, great to see him win after all his troubles the past few seasons. He needed and deserved to add another big win to his palmares, just a pity it wasn't a three way dust-up with MDVP, he rode brilliantly today despite the poor luck. Props to Pogacar as well for animating things as always. Will be difficult for him to win this race if WVA/MDaVP are there in shape, though maybe the chase today dented his strength. As for posters trying to claim WVA was not a worthy winner, what are ye smoking!!
A lot to unpack there. The leading group in most races used to be out there so that their team didn't have to work and/or to help later in the race. Now the leading group is frequently the favorites who expect to win.*We're not seeing many cases of a leading group being caught in the last 10-15 kilometers (at least in the big races). A shame. It used to be one of the characteristics of cycling, and as a viewer, you knew that the suspense would increase towards the end.
Now, the motorbikes keep the speed up and reduce factors like the wind and the drag. It's not that costly to be sitting out in front.
I know some say the motorbikes have always been there, sure - but the races are also different these years. The top 5 riders are much stronger than the second best. They don't need help to be dominating.
It would be great if there was more focus on removing the mentioned external factors. We have great ways of filming the riders nowadays, with drones supplementing the helicopters well. The front view shots from motorbikes are no longer as important to the understanding of the races. I also doubt that the world really needs dozens of still photographers on the road in a race.
In any case, fairness should be prioritised above media access. My suggestion is introducing a 3 second rule as the default minimum distance between motorbikes and riders.
(And yes, I was happy to see Van Aert take the win today instead of the usual suspect, but it doesn't change my view on the tendency.)
That's absolutely not ciclismoThat was not my point. Sport as a competition makes sense if a better sportsman wins. If the logic that rewards a lesser sportsman prevails, sport looses and mediocracy (and show) takes over.
Without Pog WvA never wins today (and this I could not say for VdP's win last year). He should recognise that. Since he hasn't, I assume he believes he deserved it. If this logic prevails, the sport is dead.
"Hey JP, for this one race we want you to change your setup, don't worry you'll be fine."Who even decides to put riders on different pedals in a monument.
...and clearly the loyalty of a good dog as well.It was a heat of the moment thing, but I also sometimes get the feeling that Jasper has the intelligence of a Golden Retriever.
@ unchained
seriously?
I find it pathetic - not the dedication bit but self-contentment that it was a win OVER a world champion. He literally carried him over the finish line
“..I did stop believing a lot of times, but the next day I always woke up and fought for it again…honestly, there’s no more beautiful way than going to the line with the world champion… beating him in the sprint mano a mano is something really special for me…there were so many times where I was on the limit to stay on his wheel…” (maybe not word for word, but close)@ unchained
seriously?
I find it pathetic - not the dedication bit but self-contentment that it was a win OVER a world champion. He literally carried him over the finish line
If Wouts win bothered people today, they are either Pogacar fanboys or else cycling is the wrong sport for them. Never has cycling been about the strongest always winning, tactics and playing the game will always be part of the sport.@ unchained
seriously?
I find it pathetic - not the dedication bit but self-contentment that it was a win OVER a world champion. He literally carried him over the finish line
