Zultronova said:What's the likelihood that Phil Liggett received a few brown envelopes from Armstrong so that he could act as another spin doctor......
Brown envelope with reach-around included @no extra charge.
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Zultronova said:What's the likelihood that Phil Liggett received a few brown envelopes from Armstrong so that he could act as another spin doctor......
Yingge said:Could be that one winner out of all this in the commentator stakes might be Matthew Keenan.
Moose McKnuckles said:Liggett's brain retired long ago. Unfortunately, his mouth didn't.
cineteq said:Condensed interview from 4 Corners
http://cyclocosm.tumblr.com/post/33772421864/firephilliggett-phil-seems-ready-to-concede
He still owes an apology to the USADA riders whom he called liars.
+ UCI complicity + Intimidation +++++D-Queued said:Did everyone else pay their doping doctor $1m?
Isn't that like having an Indy 500 pit crew for your commuter car?
How could anyone else compete?
Dave.
cineteq said:+ UCI complicity + Intimidation +++++
For Lance it was winning at all costs.
D-Queued said:He owes an apology to a few more people than that.
He is now transitioning to the worst of the fanboy apoligisms is the whole level playing field nonsense: everyone else was doping, too.
This is the worst apologist line as even a cursory understanding underscores the extreme nature of the competitive disadvantage. It remains amazing that this apoligism has any legs left.
The most obvious rebuttal:
Did everyone else pay their doping doctor $1m?
Isn't that like having an Indy 500 pit crew for your commuter car?
How could anyone else compete?
Dave.
dadane said:Just caught part of an article on the evening news (I was cooking). Liggett has been interviewed somewhere and has used the adjective 'disgraced' re LA.
Christchurch said:Apologies if this has been posted before. I might not have seen it through my tears of laughter.
He is a weathered old soul isn't he?
http://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=#newliggettisms
there goes lance, his tight buttox like two epeleptic turtles in a lycra casing , Paul, did i say that aloud? #newliggettisms
131313 said:This should surprise no one. This old fool has been complicit from the very beginning. He's a liar and a fraud, just like his hero, so this is just par for the course.
Rides on the Livestrong jet, lots of free meals and other occasional "benefits", and Phil is a friend for life. At the end of the day, these guys are just as responsible for the problems of doping than Lance Armstrong himself. Only with willing and complicit journalists could the fraud have continued for this long.
Bosco10 said:Gawd.. Lance looks older than Phil in that picture.
Christchurch said:Apologies if this has been posted before. I might not have seen it through my tears of laughter.
He is a weathered old soul isn't he?
http://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=#newliggettisms
D Avoid said:That is not even vaguely true!! Bring him down but obvious untruths?
Liggett has been a constant supporter of Armstrong through the rider’s career and through numerous doping allegations. He admitted to not having read the report, with his information having been received second-hand through news sources. He told Cyclingnews: “It is a witch hunt, lets face it, because they only want Lance. Call it what you like, the fact is they only have one ambition and that’s to get Lance.”
Liggett, who has commented on the Tour de France for a number of television networks in a career that has spanned 40 years and 35 Tours, added that he was still a supporter of Armstrong, despite the fact the revelations around Armstrong's doping had made him ‘look like a fool’.
“If he’s been taking drugs then of course it’s right [to sanction] but they still lack the absolute proof as far as I’m aware. I still am a supporter of Armstrong. Whatever way we look at it Lance has been good for the sport. No one can condone, if it’s finally proved, that he’s ridden his whole career on drugs. I had an email from an eminent scientist from the US yesterday. An SMS actually. It said if Lance Armstrong had taken the drugs outlined by USADA he’d have been dead ten years ago. He’s an eminent scientist and a very intelligent man. I don’t know his name, the SMS came from a secondary person.”
gooner said:So Phil says he is not a friend of Lance.
Suddenly he wants Verbruggen out of the UCI.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...d-no-reason-not-to-believe-lance-8219480.html