Phillippe Gaumont - Heart Attack

[Cycle Chic]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/gaumont-in-a-coma-after-a-major-heart-attack

Gaumont confessed to using EPO, growth hormone and the drug cocktail pot belge (that includes cocaine, heroin, caffeine, amphetamines), to help him train for long hours. He wrote a book about his career and his use of doping called Prisonnier du dopage (Prisoner of doping). After retirement he opened a brasserie and has rarely been seen at races.

Another death from doping ?? or maybe the stress

Last week Gaumont gave evidence to the French Senate commission investigating doping in sport......

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Not dead yet, just in a coma.

 

[L'arriviste]

Not necessarily related either, though the CN article's florid recollection of Gaumont's doping activities tends to give that impression.

Certainly you don't do yourself a lot of favours tweaking your blood and regularly using drugs that make your heart race.

Let's hope he gets better soon and maybe he can tell us himself, though I suspect he wouldn't want to and I wouldn't blame him. He is living a private life now and, despite the hearing last week, it looks very much like he wants to keep it private.

 

[thehog]

At least he told the truth about Miller and O'Grady'a drug use.

They smacked it hard as well.

Party drugs and all that.

 

[L'arriviste]

At least he told the truth about Miller and O'Grady'a drug use.

They smacked it hard as well.

Party drugs and all that.

They certainly did and it showed us that, under the surface, pro cycling isn't always the unglamorous sport of hard work, monastic lifestyle and tireless commitment that everyone thinks it is.

 

[Schwartzchov]

Lets hope that Phillippe Gaumont can recover. I wish him well.

 

[gthx_gthx_]

Well i hope he'll recover.

Also sorry for going off-topic , but i don't understand , why would riders use heroin ?? Does it really help them to train harder ? i am not an expert in drugs , but i would not expect heroin to improve performance , don't they simply get high ?

 

[thehog]

Well i hope he'll recover.

Also sorry for going off-topic , but i don't understand , why would riders use heroin ?? Does it really help them to train harder ? i am not an expert in drugs , but i would not expect heroin to improve performance , don't they simply get high ?

Stops the pain.

Ever ridden 260km and had to back it up he next day?

If you can't afford program of EPO a pain killer will stop the voices in the legs.

A very good party drug also in low doses mixed with coke.

Speedball.

 

[sublimit]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/gaumont-in-a-coma-after-a-major-heart-attack



Another death from doping ?? or maybe the stress

Give the guy a chance. When he dies or recovers then you can wade in with your worthless opinions.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Sad either way.
Hope he makes a recovery and can get on with life.

 

[horsinabout]

Stops the pain.

Ever ridden 260km and had to back it up he next day?

If you can't afford program of EPO a pain killer will stop the voices in the legs.

A very good party drug also in low doses mixed with coke.

Speedball.

Someone with experience, no? That is to say all of the aforementioned?

 

[Zweistein]

"He’s a nutter… he’s very gifted at manipulating people."
David Millar

Still can't figure out why David Millar is looked up to but Gaumont is villified from telling the truth about everything.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

"He’s a nutter… he’s very gifted at manipulating people."
David Millar

Still can't figure out why David Millar is looked up to but Gaumont is villified from telling the truth about everything.

The irony of that quote from Millar.

 

[Athame]

Pot Bilge? Whoa~ What a trip--no pun intended.

 

[RHRH19861986]

Here, in Germany, last year, a 40 year old former Bundesliga (First division) soccer goalkeeper died from a heart attack, after apparently having had a food poisoning. No one spoke of doping.

What I want to say is: Gaumont took a broad number of doping products for years. He was professional cyclist.

Most professional cyclists dope, and they have been doing so from the beginning in 1890 or 1900. The largest number of them, nevertheless, reaches their 70ies or 80ies before they die.

I hope Gaumont recovers, I wish him the best.

This (having a heart attack aged 40) could also have happened to a clean rider.

During their careers, they do 25.000 - 40.000 kms a year, for 10-18 years. Many riders then, suddenly, go down to 1000-5000 kms a year. It´s clear that the heart doesn´t like that.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Here, in Germany, last year, a 40 year old former Bundesliga (First division) soccer goalkeeper died from a heart attack, after apparently having had a food poisoning. No one spoke of doping.

Please post this in the football/soccer thread, fits in line with what I was saying and I was unaware of it. What was the guys name?

 

[RHRH19861986]

Please post this in the football/soccer thread, fits in line with what I was saying and I was unaware of it. What was the guys name?

Bernd Meier. He was one of Germany´s best keepers for few years, in his time at TSV 1860 München (Munich).

 

[LaPlagne87]

Bernd Meier. He was one of Germany´s best keepers for few years, in his time at TSV 1860 München (Munich).

Any relation to Sepp?

 

[RHRH19861986]

Any relation to Sepp?

No, none. Never actually noticed that, both Meiers and both goalkeepers... But 100% no relation.

Edit: By the way, after rethinking it, it´s Bernd Meier and Sepp Maier...

 

[babastooey]

All I really remember of him is his epic P-R crash in 2001 in the Forest. Absolutely sick. Oh yeah, and he rode P-R without a helmet, even during the era where most guys had one on. It seems crazy to do that now but I kind of miss those bygone days.

I just had a look at the video, and from the looks of things, Gaumont's crash in the forest had an effect on the outcome of the race. Hincapie was in first (until his flat), then Peeters 2nd, and Gaumont 3rd. Gaumont's fall slowed the rest, then Hincapie flatted, and Peeters rode on alone while his three teammates (who also happened to be the strongest classics team) were able to rest and let George and Ludo Dierckxsens do all the work.

 

[Cloxxki]

Give the guy a chance. When he dies or recovers then you can wade in with your worthless opinions.

Some terminal dopers posed this theory themselves. They are not proud of the cheating, in the way that it may havve cost them 30+ years of enjoying their lives. And hey, top riders have top lives. Podium girl wives, big houses, some kids, easy to find jobs even if you're useless, etc. Not cool if you find yourself suspecting you lost out on more of that, by the way you cheated your way to win all that.

Hope he recovers, and shared good new intel.

 

[kingjr]

I remember that well, was the first Paris-Roubaix I've ever watched. I remember being totally confused at the finish cause I didnt know the riders had to ride one and a half laps in the stadium and Museeuw was already celebrating before Knaven crossed the line and I was like 'what the heck is going on'

 

[Zweistein]

Here, in Germany, last year, a 40 year old former Bundesliga (First division) soccer goalkeeper died from a heart attack, after apparently having had a food poisoning. No one spoke of doping.

What I want to say is: Gaumont took a broad number of doping products for years. He was professional cyclist.

Most professional cyclists dope, and they have been doing so from the beginning in 1890 or 1900. The largest number of them, nevertheless, reaches their 70ies or 80ies before they die.

I hope Gaumont recovers, I wish him the best.

This (having a heart attack aged 40) could also have happened to a clean rider.

During their careers, they do 25.000 - 40.000 kms a year, for 10-18 years. Many riders then, suddenly, go down to 1000-5000 kms a year. It´s clear that the heart doesn´t like that.

You're right. There are hardly any health problems due to doping.

Those stories about guys having to get up in middle of the night to just to keep their blood moving are just fairy tales.

Same with Hamilton's story about ****ing black and believing he was going to die because of injecting bad blood.

And Manzano collapsing and almost dying during a race.

And Riccardo Riccò almost dying following a blood transfusion.

And Rudy Dhaenens suffering heart problems and having to retire two years after winning the worlds.

And Fabrice Salanson dying of a heart attack in his sleep at 23.

And Marco Rusconi dieing of a heart attack at 24.

And the great Jose Maria Jimenez dying of a heart attack at 32.

And Michel Zanoli dying of a heart attack at 35.

And Johan Sermon dying of heart problems at 21

And Johannes Draaijer dying at 26 due to heart blockage.

And Bert Oosterbosch dying at 32 due to cardiac arrest.

And all the others.

Thank you for clearing things up. It was just a fluke that Gaumont died young of a heart attack.

Edit: Gaumont is in a coma, not dead. My bad.

 

[Willy_Voet]

It was just a fluke that Gaumont died young of a heart attack.

He ain't dead yet.

 

[Ferminal]

You're right. There are hardly any health problems due to doping.

I don't think RHRH was actually saying there was no link, just that it may not always be the case.

You missed Kirchen!