Question Pogacar vs Evenepoel - 200 KM FLAT ITT On Road Bikes

[Rou]

Hypothetical race. Let's vote and discuss.
My money is on Pogacar.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I will take your money.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I will take your money.

Thief.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Thief.

But he's offering it!

 

[red_flanders]

Who gives a ****. We have the answers to the real races.

 

[kingjr]

The more important question is: Who wins over 300 km?

 

[Revelation]

Remco in April. Pog in October.

 

[Lorzenz08]

No matter which race including ITT, the only way for Remco to beat Pog is for Pog to not prioritize the given race and not train for it.

If Pog trains for a race, no one beats him. Including a 30km all flat ITT with ITT bike.

NO ONE.

 

[houtdffan]

No matter which race including ITT, the only way for Remco to beat Pog is for Pog to not prioritize the given race and not train for it.

If Pog trains for a race, no one beats him. Including a 30km all flat ITT with ITT bike.

NO ONE.

An out of shape Remco beat Pog in a 33 km ITT already in July

 

[AmRacer]

No matter which race including ITT, the only way for Remco to beat Pog is for Pog to not prioritize the given race and not train for it.

If Pog trains for a race, no one beats him. Including a 30km all flat ITT with ITT bike.

NO ONE.

MSR and PR are saying Hello

 

[AmRacer]

An out of shape Remco beat Pog in a 33 km ITT already in July

Pogi trained for TdF

 

[Brullnux]

No matter which race including ITT, the only way for Remco to beat Pog is for Pog to not prioritize the given race and not train for it.

If Pog trains for a race, no one beats him. Including a 30km all flat ITT with ITT bike.

NO ONE.

How many flat TTs has Pogacar ever won.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

TT bikes are for weirdos. Road bikes? A different story, Pogi in the miner position still smokes Remco.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

TT bikes are for weirdos. Road bikes? A different story, Pogi in the miner position still smokes Remco.

The topic is about a flat 200k TT on road bikes. Not a 200k TT on road bikes with the final 70k flat with alternating climbing sections after 3 hard climbs in the first 130k. Snap out of it.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The topic is about a flat 200k TT on road bikes. Not a 200k TT on road bikes of the final 70k flat with alternating climbing sections after 3 hard climbs in the first 130k. Snap out of it.

I get it, just wanted to tease a bit with top experts on Remco (Logic and his friends).

 

[BigCoward]

How many flat TTs has Pogacar ever won.

How many has he specifically trained for?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I get it, just wanted to tease a bit with top experts on Remco (Logic and his friends).

I kick your bidon.

 

[BigCoward]

MSR and PR are saying Hello

He didn't train specifically for them, he had lots of other competing priorities. If he'd trained for just those he wouldn't have been in top shape for the tour. I'm guessing if he went all in for PR he'd be at least 5kg heavier than he was.

 

[Berniece]

Didn’t he show today it would easily be Evenepoel? Completely flat? As if it’s a challenge.

 

[Brullnux]

How many has he specifically trained for?

We have an actual comparison point in the 2024 amd 2025 Tour... and Evenepoel won both by a decent enough margin. It's not like Evenepoel trained specifically for them, either. He was all in one trying to climb as best as possible for both.

 

[chickenlips]

Another thread talking about the same things in other threads.

 

[Jan the Man]

Completely flat and as a pure TT Remco obviously even on a Road Bike, he is the best TTer every probably (certainly will be by the time he hangs up his cleats) and therefore the best at pacing an effort

 

[Rou]

Remco's huge advantage over Pogacar is his flexibility in the TT position and his aerodynamic advantage as a whole.
On a road bike those advantages are greatly reduced. After a certain time and for a longer 4-5 hours effort (like a 200 KM Flat TT) Pogacar's bigger aerobic engine will prevail.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Unless it would be a circuit i doubt 200km pancake flat ITT is feasible. There would highly likely be some marmalade on the top of it.

 

[BigCoward]

We have an actual comparison point in the 2024 amd 2025 Tour... and Evenepoel won both by a decent enough margin. It's not like Evenepoel trained specifically for them, either. He was all in one trying to climb as best as possible for both.

12 and 16 seconds?