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Race Radio and the Hog.. Don't make us start a new thread to keep you here.. we will do it ! you are very appreciated and help make this an interesting forum.
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DomesticDomestique said:Here is my letter to Senator Feinstein. I'm sending a similar one to Senator Boxer.
Susan Westemeyer said:It is difficult to find the right balance of too many threads on one topic and one massive thread. If users will be more careful about opening new threads, it will be easier for all of us.
Susan
the big ring said:You, sir, are the definition of articulate. The tone of the letter was perfectly informational without a hint of condescension, arrogance or alarmism.
Chapeau.
Not all pros had to leave school before 16 I take it?
I'd write one too but think the US senators care little for Aussie sentiment.
thehog said:I too might leave here soon.
Tinman said:Mods any chance creating a part of the forum, or separate thread(s) that allows posting by "qualified" posters only, you know who they are, and read access only by others. You have built a site which is contributing to the change in cycling we need, a place where one gets the critical questions asked and some real inside scoop. As well you have created a commercial asset. Please don't allow those with possible alterior motives or other plain idiots to ruin this for you and us.
the big ring said:You, sir, are the definition of articulate. The tone of the letter was perfectly informational without a hint of condescension, arrogance or alarmism.
Chapeau.
Not all pros had to leave school before 16 I take it?
I'd write one too but think the US senators care little for Aussie sentiment.
I hope you're right. As an American surrounded by the inanity of the pro-Lance stance, I'm somewhat curious as to how this thing is playing outside of the USA. Would there be an uproar if the UCI, after reviewing USADA's report (assuming it contains the detail we expect), refused to go along with USADA's stripping of Lance's 7 TdF titles? Or would people merely shrug it off as 'business as usual'?JMBeaushrimp said:I know Americans may have a hard time coming to grips with the fact that the entire Universe doesn't revolve around them, but this is pretty much 'fait a compli'.
All the political wrangling in the world isn't going to help him...
Tinman said:Mods any chance creating a part of the forum, or separate thread(s) that allows posting by "qualified" posters only, you know who they are, and read access only by others. You have built a site which is contributing to the change in cycling we need, a place where one gets the critical questions asked and some real inside scoop. As well you have created a commercial asset. Please don't allow those with possible alterior motives or other plain idiots to ruin this for you and us.
Qualification can be by identity (you as admins knowing who the poster is and the identity qualifying the poster), or by post quality over time. I'm sure you can think of other criteria.
You may also consider more active moderation, the forum is one of your major assets, the community you have created. If one had Omerta ambitions your forum would be one of the first targets, ie clog it with heaps of ****. Easy to do, create lots of identities, some with ambiguous styles, and just drown out all the good threads over time...
Please find a better way.
Yours truly, a simple cycling fan who wants to be informed (and ask questions) beyond the average journo contributions in the main stream media. Thanks.
silverrocket said:I agree that something should be done.
silverrocket said:how on earth would moderators judge who was qualified or not? Auditions? CV?
silverrocket said:it is up to all of us to simply not allow threads to be bogged down and derailed, just as we would do in a regular conversation
Tinman said:...Suggestion is to only have a small part of the forum, a few threads, with VIP "post" and general public "read" access. If non-VIPs want to comment they can do so in general threads. VIP's can pick up comments from general threads and re-post these in theirs, or indeed post in general threads...
JMBeaushrimp said:I know Americans may have a hard time coming to grips with the fact that the entire Universe doesn't revolve around them, but this is pretty much 'fait a compli'.
icebreaker said:So, in all the furor over the "outrageous" actions of USADA, and the ridiculous efforts of politicians and others to protect the "constitutional rights" of an "American Hero" has anyone pointed out to any of these genii that USADA is their entry into the WADA code, and without that the US of A isn't getting into the Olympics ??
I suppose that would be grounds for sending cruise missiles into Lausanne?
Idiots need to actually think once in a while.
Oldman said:You are talking about American politicians. The shelf life of their interest in Lance's case and USADA in general is proportionate to how distasteful the information is. It is very bad and getting worse to be a defender; bear in mind also that some of these Pols are very liberal. They will provoke an equal response from the opposing side if it becomes too much of an issue.
BroDeal said:As far as I am concerned, this letter is a good thing. The USADA will be forced to bury Armstrong with the evidence, and sooner rather than later. It needs to stop the snowball from gathering speed and mass.
I have been worried the USADA will write a thin document explaining Armstrong's ban that will be mostly conclusions. Armstrong's PR campaign and some foolish legislators buying into it will force the USADA's hand. They will have to provide more than conclusions.
One of the more surprising things is that Armstrong is going down this route, especially at this time. He should have waited a while and stuck with the unfair/unconstitutional system argument until the USADA process played out. Then he could attack whatever evidence came to light. By going with the "there is no evidence" line, he is forcing the USADA to release more information than they might have and release it quicker.
dolophonic said:Race Radio and the Hog.. Don't make us start a new thread to keep you here.. we will do it ! you are very appreciated and help make this an interesting forum.
Mongol_Waaijer said:It concerns me that these politicians are apparently Liberal.
The recent Armstrong "waste of taxpayer money" and the anti-French, anti-Government comments from the chorus of the deluded online seem to me to be far more tea party than California democrat.
Defending a dishonest multi millionaire against a small do-gooder govt agency doesn't strike me as a liberal position.
BroDeal said:As far as I am concerned, this letter is a good thing. The USADA will be forced to bury Armstrong with the evidence. . . .
One of the more surprising things is that Armstrong is going down this route, especially at this time. He should have waited a while and stuck with the unfair/unconstitutional system argument until the USADA process played out. Then he could attack whatever evidence came to light. By going with the "there is no evidence" line, he is forcing the USADA to release more information than they might have and release it quicker.
python said:brodeal and others who advocated impulsive release of the evidence, please have patience !
it was fully expected that armstrong will try to misdirect the doping evidence against him into a political/pr mud wrestling BEFORE usada's rear front is secured..that's the game he can control and the game usada should stay away from.
in stead, usada should - as it did so far - continue methodically working under wada code towards the goal under its OWN time schedule dictated by the complex changing circumstances. armstrong's money connections, and power are actively engaged in derailing usada.
when wada and the other understanding parties are fully on board, the political ramblings of those political cronies can be simply ignored.
usada clearly stated more than once that the evidence will be made public at the right time. the last statement narrowed the time frame to 1-2 weeks.