Political influence to protect dopers

[BroDeal]

Who the are you? I've never heard of you until a couple months ago or whatever.

RaceRadio's been one of the key sources of info. Let the mods do the moderating.

LL is a troll. "Her" opinions are not even consistent. The game appears to be to crapflood threads while pretending to engage in discussion. Opinions change depending on what is more useful for crapflooding.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Would I be right in saying it helps that USADA are not a state actor in the current political (specifically re-election) climate - and hence neither political party is disenfranchising voters with this action against Armstrong?

Not really. It's an obscure niche that won't buy lots of votes if the congresscritter spends some energy on it.

IMHO, wonderboy is
trying to get the agency to drop or screw up his case. Some ways:
-Fire the talent and replace them with more compliant people,
-Get dumber lawyers in the agency.
-quid pro quo, drop the wonderboy case and your budget is intact for the next cycle.
- and so on

 

[powys lanes]

if all the drug takers are striped of all grand tour results who win them ?
how will the sport cope with it and how does the uci keep the sport going after it clean up history ?

 

[Oldman]

Not really. It's an obscure niche that won't buy lots of votes if the congresscritter spends some energy on it.

IMHO, wonderboy is
trying to get the agency to drop or screw up his case. Some ways:
-Fire the talent and replace them with more compliant people,
-Get dumber lawyers in the agency.
-quid pro quo, drop the wonderboy case and your budget is intact for the next cycle.
- and so on

Excellent point although no budgets are moving nor are people with funding. Travis has his and will boat this lunker. Cancer support is a no- lose for positive voter support until LA and Co history is more known. Then the cockroaches will scatter from the light.

 

[LauraLyn]

if all the drug takers are striped of all grand tour results who win them ?
how will the sport cope with it and how does the uci keep the sport going after it clean up history?

Maybe no one ever won them.

Perhaps we should write this in the present continuous tense (with no "after"): "The UCI is cleaning up the sport." It would be nice to hear the UCI once admit that the "dark era" is not behind us and that doping is not just a problem of the past.

 

[Tinman]

LL is a troll. "Her" opinions are not even consistent. The game appears to be to crapflood threads while pretending to engage in discussion. Opinions change depending on what is more useful for crapflooding.

So after Laura has started to flood these pages, seemed to have called race radio's identity (posts now deleted?) and caused his leaving, is welcoming new forum posters, and seems to be ignoring posts trying to engage her, time for Laura to declare herself as she has become such an identity here. I have seen her translate Dutch and Flemish, and "Laura Lynn" apparently is a Flemish singer.

Maybe a belgian employee of LA's or Pat's PR firm on the job to 1. Sew confusion 2. Flood the forum 3. Build inside equity on these pages...? No ordinary troll I say...

 

[Anonymous]

So after Laura has started to flood these pages, seemed to have called race radio's identity (posts now deleted?) and caused his leaving, is welcoming new forum posters, and seems to be ignoring posts trying to engage her, time for Laura to declare herself as she has become such an identity here. I have seen her translate Dutch and Flemish, and "Laura Lynn" apparently is a Flemish singer.

Maybe a belgian employee of LA's or Pat's PR firm on the job to 1. Sew confusion 2. Flood the forum 3. Build inside equity on these pages...? No ordinary troll I say...

And LL is still here.

Ironic to say the least.

 

[Benotti69]

And LL is still here.

Ironic to say the least.

Not ironic, pretty sad really.

 

[Tinman]

Maybe a belgian employee of LA's or Pat's PR firm on the job to 1. Sew confusion 2. Flood the forum 3. Build inside equity on these pages...? No ordinary troll I say...

I think I'm on it: LL is a PR agency account with content provided by different employees with different backgrounds with varying opinions

Mods any chance checking source IP address(es)?

 

[the big ring]

John McCain presented at the 2008 Livestrong Summit.

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&r...3oCoDw&usg=AFQjCNF5JkIs-zlMB4jW6syNWLHDjrXPDg

In 2005, McCain had this to say: http://www.newsrx.com/health-articles/262563.html

Senator McCain, 68, is a melanoma survivor, having been diagnosed in 2000. Senator McCain is cancer-free today as well. "Lance Armstrong has been instrumental in demonstrating to people affected by cancer that fighting not just the disease but the fear and isolation is paramount," said McCain. "When people realize they are not alone, they gain the strength to handle the obstacles they face when their lives are affected by cancer. That sense of unity is a powerful tool."

I am trying to reconcile this factoid, but find it very curious (or encouraging) given McCain then turned around in 2012 and essentially backed USADA against Lance and his cohorts.

 

[Bala Verde]

So after Laura has started to flood these pages, seemed to have called race radio's identity (posts now deleted?) and caused his leaving, is welcoming new forum posters, and seems to be ignoring posts trying to engage her, time for Laura to declare herself as she has become such an identity here. I have seen her translate Dutch and Flemish, and "Laura Lynn" apparently is a Flemish singer.

Maybe a belgian employee of LA's or Pat's PR firm on the job to1. Sew confusion 2. Flood the forum 3. Build inside equity on these pages...? No ordinary troll I say...

Eddy Merckx?

 

[MacRoadie]

Eddy Merckx?

Axel.......

 

[FitSsikS]

So after Laura has started to flood these pages, seemed to have called race radio's identity (posts now deleted?) and caused his leaving, is welcoming new forum posters, and seems to be ignoring posts trying to engage her, time for Laura to declare herself as she has become such an identity here. I have seen her translate Dutch and Flemish, and "Laura Lynn" apparently is a Flemish singer.

Maybe a belgian employee of LA's or Pat's PR firm on the job to 1. Sew confusion 2. Flood the forum 3. Build inside equity on these pages...? No ordinary troll I say...

Hmm...and Laura Lynn food products are a brand pushed on LieStrong.com.

Click: here

Note: Ingles Market founder Robert Ingles has a product line named after his daughter Laura Lynn.

She also pretends to be a Dr too.

 

[the big ring]

Hmm...and Laura Lynn food products are a brand pushed on LieStrong.com.

Click: here

Nice. Chapeau.

 

[Tinman]

Red herring. See Feedback forum, sockpuppet speculation thread. Last few posts.

 

[Briant_Gumble]

Hmm...and Laura Lynn food products are a brand pushed on LieStrong.com.

Click: here

Note: Ingles Market founder Robert Ingles has a product line named after his daughter Laura Lynn.

She also pretends to be a Dr too.

Exposed, I think this poster should be banned now.

 

[Puckfiend]

Hmm...and Laura Lynn food products are a brand pushed on LieStrong.com.

Click: here

Note: Ingles Market founder Robert Ingles has a product line named after his daughter Laura Lynn.

She also pretends to be a Dr too.

I live in Ingles country. There is an apocryphal story of Bob Ingle bodily throwing a salesman out of his office who tried to sell Ingle on a Laura Lynn line of feminine sanitary products!

 

[Microchip]

Hmm...and Laura Lynn food products are a brand pushed on LieStrong.com.

Click: here

Note: Ingles Market founder Robert Ingles has a product line named after his daughter Laura Lynn.

She also pretends to be a Dr too.

Good find.

 

[the big ring]

There's even more to it.

Lanny Breuer, Eric Holder and their connection to Covington & Burling, Diane Feinstein's recommendation of Andre Birotte, the appearance of a quid pro-quo donation to Planned Parenthood from Livestrong (to the delight od Senators Boxer and Feinstein). On and on...

Yeah, Cali is as corrupt as it gets.

I found a little more info on this... tl;dr:

Janury 31: Komen for the Cure drop Planned Parenthood funding for breast cancer screening & education (~$680k)
February 3rd: LAF donates $100k to PP, matching Mayor Bloomberg's
February 3rd: Komen reinstates funding to PP
February 4th: Birotte drops LA federal case


Here's what Lance himself said they were doing: http://www.lifenews.com/2012/02/03/lance-armstrongs-livestrong-to-donate-100k-to-planned-parenthood/

“The donation is going to the Planned Parenthood Cancer Services Fund. The donation will be restricted to this fund which goes to provide cancer screening services in local communities.”

Stop Planned Parenthood had this to say about the donation:

http://www.stopp.org/article.php?id=9940

Lance Armstrong’s Livestrong joined the Planned Parenthood-orchestrated mob in shaking down Komen for the Cure, announcing a $100,000 matching grant to Planned Parenthood in the wake of Susan G. Komen’s initial announcement that it would no longer make new grants to Planned Parenthood. A Livestrong spokesperson claimed that, by giving the money to Planned Parenthood, it is preserving access to cancer screening and expanding access to health care. Yet, in making the grant, Livestrong is, in reality, acting in direct opposition to its mission.

Planned Parenthood does not provide breast cancer care. As far as screening, it is not licensed to do anything beyond Level 1 manual breast examinations—the same exam that can be done by a woman in her home, or in any clinic or physician's office. Planned Parenthood does not perform mammograms. It is not licensed to do so.

What Planned Parenthood say about the services they provide:

Planned Parenthood doctors and nurses teach patients about breast care, connect patients to resources to help them get vital biopsies, ultrasounds, and mammograms, and follow up to make sure patients are cared for with the attention they need and deserve.

ie they don't do any biopsies ultrasounds or mammograms themselves.

Curiously, Komen reinstated the funding to PP the same day: http://www.plannedparenthood.org/ab...ings-after-years-political-pressure-38620.htm

UPDATE: February 3, 2012: The Susan G. Komen for the Cure Foundation reversed its decision and continues to fund breast cancer screenings at Planned Parenthood health centers.

 

[sairyder]

So after Laura has started to flood these pages, seemed to have called race radio's identity (posts now deleted?) and caused his leaving, is welcoming new forum posters, and seems to be ignoring posts trying to engage her, time for Laura to declare herself as she has become such an identity here. I have seen her translate Dutch and Flemish, and "Laura Lynn" apparently is a Flemish singer.

Maybe a belgian employee of LA's or Pat's PR firm on the job to 1. Sew confusion 2. Flood the forum 3. Build inside equity on these pages...? No ordinary troll I say...

Agreed.

LL seemed to know one of the Australian UCI representatives i mentioned on another thread, personally, describing his personality. Weird - I always had the sense LL was a he.

Has been on my ignore list now for a while and i still get a little thrill looking at that squashed up LL line go by as i read on undisturbed!

 

[LauraLyn]

Interesting article that might help to explain the downfall of Lance Armstrong:

"Why Men Fail"

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/brooks-why-men-fail.html?src=me&ref=general

"Young women today, Rosin argues, are more like clean slates, having abandoned both feminist and prefeminist preconceptions. Men still adhere to the masculinity rules, which limits their vision and their movement."

 

[Anonymous]

Interesting article that might help to explain the downfall of Lance Armstrong:

"Why Men Fail"

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/brooks-why-men-fail.html?src=me&ref=general

100% off topic.

 

[Anonymous]

I found a little more info on this... tl;dr:

Janury 31: Komen for the Cure drop Planned Parenthood funding for breast cancer screening & education (~$680k)
February 3rd: LAF donates $100k to PP, matching Mayor Bloomberg's
February 3rd: Komen reinstates funding to PP
February 4th: Birotte drops LA federal case


Here's what Lance himself said they were doing: http://www.lifenews.com/2012/02/03/lance-armstrongs-livestrong-to-donate-100k-to-planned-parenthood/


Stop Planned Parenthood had this to say about the donation:

http://www.stopp.org/article.php?id=9940


What Planned Parenthood say about the services they provide:


ie they don't do any biopsies ultrasounds or mammograms themselves.

Curiously, Komen reinstated the funding to PP the same day: http://www.plannedparenthood.org/ab...ings-after-years-political-pressure-38620.htm

Pretty interesting stuff. I'm guessing this kind of pay to play is so common that those involved are not all that concerned with plausible deniability anymore.

 

[LauraLyn]

100% off topic.

Perhaps, from a man's perspective.

From my perspective it explains a lot about the hubris of men such as Lance. The psychology of success and failure does help to explain a great deal, as Travis Tygart himself seems to suggest.

 

[LauraLyn]

Pretty interesting stuff. I'm guessing this kind of pay to play is so common that those involved are not all that concerned with plausible deniability anymore.

Are you commenting on how the psychology of the actors explains their behavior? [note: check spelling]