Poll - How has your Opinion of Jan Ullrich changed since Armstrong's confession?

[Turner29]

How has your opinion of Jan Ullrich changed since Armstrong's confession?

Much improved!

 

[Bratam]

Unchanged. Jan Ullrich by all accounts is a very decent human being. Most cycling gurus would agree that given a dope free playing field, Ullrich would have likely dominated the Armstrong TDF era. This is based on pure natural ability and Ullrichs domination through his youth years.

 

[babastooey]

Ullrichs domination through his youth years.

Has Jan talked at all about at what age he began doping?

 

[Cobber]

Unchanged. Still my favorite rider from the "dark years".

 

[WildspokeJoe]

Unchanged.
He doped just like the rest.

 

[Steel4Ever]

Can we get a Vino opinion poll, please!

 

[hrotha]

Why would it have changed? None of this was about Ullrich. We already knew Armstrong was a sociopath and Ullrich a nice guy.

 

[blackcat]

we r always told about Armstrong's sans GED vaunted intelligence, and Ullrich was just a simple guy from Rostok.

Seems we had it all @rse backwards. Ullrich's tactical brilliance was to walk away and live free from this cesspool.


irony is

ex GDR athlete free as a bird

GWBush's hate us cos of our freedom athlete, jailed on a treadmill to make more greenbacks that lose their value every second of Bernanke's monetary easing weasel word

 

[mewmewmew13]

Why would it have changed? None of this was about Ullrich. We already knew Armstrong was a sociopath and Ullrich a nice guy.

Yep.
Nothing has changed...always has been my fave...from that time.

 

[ElChingon]

Why would it change?

 

[movingtarget]

Why would it have changed? None of this was about Ullrich. We already knew Armstrong was a sociopath and Ullrich a nice guy.

Nice guys don't dope ? Plus he came though the East German dope factories. Ullrich's silence says it all. Telekom was riddled with dopers. What do personalities have to do with cheating ? Armstrong is loathed more because he never comes across as very likeable but he didn't put a gun to the head of any other dopers. They had choices. They put a place on the Tour team above anything else and they have to live with it.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Unchanged.
Ullrich is just another blood and EPO doper.

 

[Joachim]

Unchanged....

.....but, what a contrast between Ullrich and Armstrong, but also people like Basso. Ullrich just got out and stayed out. Didnt try and be cynical. Didn't have the gall to do a Basso.

He maintains a bit of my respect for that, regardless of his doping.

 

[hrotha]

Nice guys don't dope ? Plus he came though the East German dope factories. Ullrich's silence says it all. Telekom was riddled with dopers. What do personalities have to do with cheating ? Armstrong is loathed more because he never comes across as very likeable but he didn't put a gun to the head of any other dopers. They had choices. They put a place on the Tour team above anything else and they have to live with it.

Where did I say Ullrich didn't dope? Don't be ridiculous.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Much improved, he has not been out in the media kicking the american now when he is down, like Virenque and so on.

Good on you Ulle!

 

[Don Quixote]

Much improved, he has not been out in the media kicking the american now when he is down, like Virenque and so on.

Good on you Ulle!

Agree with this. Even Pevenage was blaming Lance and Johan last year for pushing Ullrich to dope.

Lance humiliated Ulle more than once, and maintaining a dignified silence now does actually speak volumes.

So, yeah, my opinion of the guy has improved.

 

[spalco]

Unchanged. Jan Ullrich by all accounts is a very decent human being. Most cycling gurus would agree that given a dope free playing field, Ullrich would have likely dominated the Armstrong TDF era. This is based on pure natural ability and Ullrichs domination through his youth years.

Many cheaters are good guys. That's what happens when doping is ubiquitous in a certain sport.

 

[Benotti69]

What a pointless thread!

This is a question which could easily have been asked in the Ullrich thread with need for a poll.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

"If you look back at what happened and still can't put two and two together, then you are beyond my help" - Jan Ullrich

Ullrich's response to the USP scandal

Cycling was something that got in the way of cakes and beer.

 

[thehog]

Ullrich tells Focus magazine, "I will surely not go the way of Armstrong and speak before an audience of millions, even if some people keep pushing me to do it and perhaps even expect it of me."

 

[blackcat]

even expect it of me."

this is the problem.

the fans

their expectations.

this is irony. they dont realise they are the enablers.

 

[roundabout]

Ullrich tells Focus magazine, "I will surely not go the way of Armstrong and speak before an audience of millions, even if some people keep pushing me to do it and perhaps even expect it of me."

Did he ever admit anything?

 

[roundabout]

Well, apart from his lame statement how he made mistakes.

No balls to use the d-word in relation to his career.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/ullrich-apologizes-for-fuentes-dealings

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Only ever indirectly with the 2+ 2 quote.

I do wish that he would break omerta. If nothing else it would hopefully remove the truly odious Kloden, Rogers, Holm, Zabel, Aldag, Riis etc from the peloton if he were speak out.

I wish he'd do the right thing for once.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Only ever indirectly with the 2+ 2 quote.

I do wish that he would break omerta. If nothing else it would hopefully remove the truly odious Kloden, Rogers, Holm, Zabel, Aldag, Riis etc from the peloton if he were speak out.

I wish he'd do the right thing for once.

on behalf of cycling Ullrich is a coward, but he is not alone.