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post fuentes doping...

Oct 25, 2012
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http://www.nu.nl/sport/3396917/nog-zeker-twee-nederlandse-renners-klant-bij-fuentes.html

Two more Dutch riders were clients of Fuentes, according to Berend Nikkels in an interview (AD newspaper).

But this quote struck me: nowadays, it is easy to take epo, just take microdoses and do it at a regular basis.

Still, riders think when we don't get caught, it is ok. They all claim to be a new generation....

Will it ever stop?

(why is Cancellara still riding? He won years ago with big gaps from -we kow know- doped riders in TT. He is NOT clean -he cannot be, it is nog possible that someone is that outstanding clean in a dopinggeneration (look the reams he was in: almost all riders caught Fassa Bortolo, Mapei). And he is just an exameple. I dont believe a word of the cleanness of the new generation.
 
Ferminal said:
Who is Nikkels?

I google and pic of fuentes and this guy
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Oct 25, 2012
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Nikkels is a med who was involved in someway with research on epo. he had ties with riders form Rabo annd tvm. Later on he worked with skatertrainer Peter Mueller and Spaarselect.

He spoke I think as an expert. I did not read the AD article I mentioned.
 
Oct 8, 2010
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a quick translation of the nu.nl article

"With certainty,two more Dutch riders customer to Fuentes'
The Spanish doping doctor Fuentes Eufemiano had at least two additional Dutch riders in his clientele. This is said by Berend Nikkels Saturday in an interview with the AD. The names of the two are not yet known.
Photo: Reuters

Nikkels has guided and advised ten riders in the use of illicit drugs.

Fuentes was the center in a doping network in Spain. It was previously known that Thomas Dekker and Remmert Wielinga were customers with him.

According Nikkels the two other Dutch don't have a code name with Fuentes, as was customary. '' Because they didn't undergo transfusions, they just bought EPO.'' Names must can't be mentioned because of his (Nikkels') medical secrecy.

According Nikkels the top of the former Rabobank team knew all about doping in the team. ''in rabobank You had three categories. The servants who used nothing. You had master's servants, and here they did like this (puts hand in front of face, looks through the fingers). And you had the top. These were facilitated. Three, four men. Theo de Rooij invented around 2000 the term "success risk'' for them

Nikkels says you still can use EPO without getting caught. '' If you take in micro doses, you stay under the radar. If you do it continuously. But if you stop for a while, you see that in your blood.'' He still gets requests from riders. [to dope]
 
Oct 25, 2012
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I said it because the article was about what was going on after the examination. (I mean after LA and others) the claim: we are clean, they werent, dont judge us.... Why should I believe the new generation? I dont have any evidence but what this doctor mentioned seems to be reasonable.