Clearly, among the 146 data points in this meta analysis, many are non sensical. Maybe the author could have spent some time weeding out the worse results.
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I suppose a hypothetical person who has such a small VO2max decrease has a super-high blood cells content (a high mountain resident) and on top of that poor physical fitness (isn't able to utilize high oxygen amount circulating in his blood at a lower elevation).
OscarSoliz, positive to EPO Cera at the Vuelta a Colombia 2017.Oscar Soliz or some other crazy Bolivian cyclist.
The Struggle, Ambleside 2.67 miles, 8% avg
Andrew Feather 11.48 7.3w/kg
Nominative Determinism
Andrew Feather 11.48 7.3w/kg
Nominative Determinism
Interesting article on Pogacar.
What is funny is that this is far beyond what was deemed possible just a few years ago. Anything above 6.5, I believe, was deemed impossible. Now you are just called greatest cyclist ever and admired, instead of question marks. Geraint is ridiculed for not attacking him for instance... Odd times.
What is funny is that this is far beyond what was deemed possible just a few years ago. Anything above 6.5, I believe, was deemed impossible. Now you are just called greatest cyclist ever and admired, instead of question marks. Geraint is ridiculed for not attacking him for instance... Odd times.
The article is incorrect since they are using Arensman data to make predictions, but the problem is the strava of Arensman was incorrec because he had problems with the weight. He had more 4/5 kg than his normal weight.
He probably did something close to 6.2 w/kg on Grappa. Arensman said he gained weight during the Giro, almost 5 kg heavier. I'm not saying Pogi is not doping, of course he is but 6.5 w/kg is an all time performance, being in the same league as Riis in Hautacum.
Paul Double | St. Marti Sacalm | 20:35 (KOM) | 7.1W/Kg
No wonder Pogacar isn't going to Slovenia.
No wonder Pogacar isn't going to Slovenia.
Greatest Climbing Performances Of All-Time on Plateau de Beille | Tour de France 2024 Stage 15 - Lanterne Rouge
Tadej Pogačar and Jonas Vingegaard both did the best and second-best climbing performance of all time on the Plateau de Beille climb, making this the greatest climbing stage of all time.
lanternerouge.com
Pogačar did 6.98 ᵉW/Kg for 39:50 min, which is by far the greatest climbing performance ever, taking into account conditions and the stage difficulty. Sea normalised power for this historic effort is 7.27 ᵉW/Kg. Pogačar’s adjusted altitude score was 696, which means this performance was equivalent to pushing 6.96 ᵉW/Kg for 60 minutes at sea level. Jonas Vingegaard, despite losing 68 seconds did the second-greatest climbing performance of all time. The Dane did 6.85 ᵉW/Kg for 40:58 min. His altitude score was the second highest in history with 685. Until today, Marco Pantani’s Alpe d’Huez in 1997 was the best in history. Remco Evenepoel lost 2:51 min on a climb to Pogačar, but his performance still was the 23rd best of all-time as he pushed 6.53 ᵉW/Kg for 42:41, which for sea level normalised is 6.81 ᵉW/Kg. Evenepoel’s performance still is the third best in the 21st century. Pogačar’s Stage 14 effort on Pla d’Adet is the fourth best.
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Again, just a few years ago many people in the know stated this would be impossible (excess of 6.5wkg) Now it's just admired? I am confused. It also was not done on an easy stage but after huge energy expenditure.
Muscular fatigue on multi mountain stages is no longer a limiting factor for climbing times, at least for the nuclear kids.
No journalists working on anything doping related ? At least in Denmark the journalists are a breed of fans with a consistent view around that sport has changed.
We might not know the name of the fuel the riders drive on but there is absolutely no intelligence in stating they beat records by doped to gills riders such as Pantani, Ulrich and Lance.
I urge everyone to reach out to their respective sports journalists and ask them to dig deeper.
We might not know the name of the fuel the riders drive on but there is absolutely no intelligence in stating they beat records by doped to gills riders such as Pantani, Ulrich and Lance.
I urge everyone to reach out to their respective sports journalists and ask them to dig deeper.
Old article: https://sportsscientists.com/2010/07/cycling-performance-what-is-possible/
I am of the opinion, like Prof Aldo Sassi, that a value above 6.2 W/kg is indicative of doping.
We are now far above it. Carbs intake is also a bit ridiculous since that should not improve over past climbing TTs for instance. As those were started fresh.
I am of the opinion, like Prof Aldo Sassi, that a value above 6.2 W/kg is indicative of doping.
We are now far above it. Carbs intake is also a bit ridiculous since that should not improve over past climbing TTs for instance. As those were started fresh.
Yeah, Tucker used to post good stuff during the tours. As did veloclinic.
Many things can of course be explained away for the general public, but ultimately the oxygen cost implied by the performances cannot. Ok, one can muddy the waters a bit by making assumptions about rider efficiency and also fractional utilisation during say 40min effort, but the ballpark yielded will tell the story anyway.
Many things can of course be explained away for the general public, but ultimately the oxygen cost implied by the performances cannot. Ok, one can muddy the waters a bit by making assumptions about rider efficiency and also fractional utilisation during say 40min effort, but the ballpark yielded will tell the story anyway.
The magical 7 number will be broken soon like the two minute mile
Greatest Climbing Performances Of All-Time on Plateau de Beille | Tour de France 2024 Stage 15 - Lanterne Rouge
Tadej Pogačar and Jonas Vingegaard both did the best and second-best climbing performance of all time on the Plateau de Beille climb, making this the greatest climbing stage of all time.
Pogačar did 6.98 ᵉW/Kg for 39:50 min, which is by far the greatest climbing performance ever, taking into account conditions and the stage difficulty. Sea normalised power for this historic effort is 7.27 ᵉW/Kg. Pogačar’s adjusted altitude score was 696, which means this performance was equivalent to pushing 6.96 ᵉW/Kg for 60 minutes at sea level. Jonas Vingegaard, despite losing 68 seconds did the second-greatest climbing performance of all time. The Dane did 6.85 ᵉW/Kg for 40:58 min. His altitude score was the second highest in history with 685. Until today, Marco Pantani’s Alpe d’Huez in 1997 was the best in history. Remco Evenepoel lost 2:51 min on a climb to Pogačar, but his performance still was the 23rd best of all-time as he pushed 6.53 ᵉW/Kg for 42:41, which for sea level normalised is 6.81 ᵉW/Kg. Evenepoel’s performance still is the third best in the 21st century. Pogačar’s Stage 14 effort on Pla d’Adet is the fourth best.
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Again, just a few years ago many people in the know stated this would be impossible (excess of 6.5wkg) Now it's just admired? I am confused. It also was not done on an easy stage but after huge energy expenditure.
Vingegaard placerer sin og Pogacars præstation blandt de bedste nogensinde
Jonas Vingegaard og hans faste slovenske konkurrent leverede tider på søndagens afgørende stigning, der slog rekorder.
Vingo to Danish media about yesterday: "The other guys on the team have said, that people have estimated how many W/Kg we (himself and Pog) have pushed, and [the estimates]- to put it bluntly - is very accurate".
The one hour marathon, the fifteen meter long jump, you know, whatever you need to illustrate your point.What two minute mile are you talking about ?
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