Roglic is way ahead of Bernal...
Oh, I forgot that Bernal's Tour was the previous decade. For sure, Roglic is ahead this decade but Bernal's full career so far beats Roglic's.
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Roglic is way ahead of Bernal...
Would you swap 3 vueltas, a monument and Olympic TT for a Tour and a Giro?Roglic is way ahead of Bernal...
Right now ? Yes, Career-wise? Not at all, and there is a high chance Egan will have more important titles by the end of his career. Roglic, may have 1-2 more actual good years on him (as in having serious chance to win a GT), Bernal has 4x that.Roglic is way ahead of Bernal...
Oh, I forgot that Bernal's Tour was the previous decade. For sure, Roglic is ahead this decade but Bernal's full career so far beats Roglic's.
"Prediction"
There is no prediction here, unless he is Armstrongned(and in that case he will not be the only one) TP is head and shoulders above the competition, by the time a genuine contender may arise (and no, Remco will never be one), we would be in the mid-20s and it will be too late for any change.
You can't be serious, he might end up top15 of the decade...lolThe fact is Roglic has tried win the most-prestigious GT (TdF) and second-most prestigious GT (Giro) and failed every single time.
He needs to win many, many more Vueltas to come close to Pogacar's 2 TdFs or even Bernal's 1 TdF + 1 Giro. Outside of that. he has 1 less monument than Pogacar.
Roglic is good rider and might end up Top 15 of the decade but it's too much to make up as a 32-year old to come close to the top.
But he'll end up top15 maybe they sayJust Roglic 2020-2021 results would probably make him top 8 or so in the 2010s decade.
Do people really believe that? I must be living in some parallel universe it seems. I'm not saying when it's all said and done Bernal career won't be better than Roglič's. He is younger and has probably more prime years ahead of him. But right now? So far? Let's have a look:... but Bernal's full career so far beats Roglic's.
I'd say the careers are a dead heat if you ignore the monument and OGTT gold, that's what pushes Roglic to the fore.Do people really believe that? I must be living in some parallel universe it seems. I'm not saying when it's all said and done Bernal career won't be better than Roglič's. He is younger and has probably more prime years ahead of him. But right now? So far? Let's have a look:
Roglič (left) vs Bernal (right)
GT wins: 3 vs 2
GT stage wins: 15 vs 2
WT stage races: 6 vs 3
Monuments: 1 vs 0
Semi classics: 4 vs 1
Roglič has also an Olympic gold and a WC ITT silver medal. Not to mention the shitload of WT stages and other smaller races he won, giving him a total of 60 wins against Bernal's 19 wins. The only thing Bernal has going for him is that one of his GT wins was the Tour. But does this do enough to compensate the enormous deficit he has to Roglič otherwise? Also considering the Tour he won had one of the weakest fields I can remember and the second strongest rider was his teammate? I don't know how it is even debatable tbh.
Bernal might not have won the most prestigious version of the TDF and Giro, but if we're talking palmares/wins, a TDF + Giro quite easily trumps 3 Vueltas. In fact, i think a lot of pros would chose Bernal's palmares regardless it lacking a monument or more one week WT races etc.Roglič (left) vs Bernal (right)
GT wins: 3 vs 2
GT stage wins: 15 vs 2
WT stage races: 6 vs 3
Monuments: 1 vs 0
Semi classics: 4 vs 1
Yeah it's the difference between ability and palmares.Bernal might not have won the most prestigious version of the TDF and Giro, but if we're talking palmares/wins, a TDF + Giro quite easily trumps 3 Vueltas. In fact, i think a lot of pros would chose Bernal's palmares regardless it lacking a monument or more one week WT races etc.
I'm not advocating Bernal is the better rider, but well... he did win the Tour. That said, i'm not yet sure Bernal will go on to win a lot more in the future. And i see Roglic being relevant for another year or two. But that's another reality in this regard, it's only 2021, early in the decade, and Roglic is already 31 years old.
At this moment you'd have to say Pogacar is the easy pick. Let's hope he'll get some competition, be it from Evenepoel or someone else. But if the team keeps buying other potential rivals (Ayuso, Almeida...) we'll have to see who would be able to take that step. The problem is, that from a physical point of view, it's possible Pogacar will even improve ever so slightly over the next 4 or 5 years, so that anybody who comes after him, even if he's "the next Pogacar", will always be behind the curve. Let's say Ayuso might be just as good as Pogacar at that age, it doesn't mean he'll be able to win the Tour 2 times when he's 23, because he'll face a more mature Pogacar.
Pidcock is my main prospect to compete with the guys above, since he'll have both one-day and stage race potential.
Evenepoel is a category of his own, just due to the sheer fashion in which he triumphs. He might not get away with his "trick" in bigger races in the future, so his palmares might not be all that great, except if he improves his race intellect. (Maybe that can be said for VDP as well)
“6-8 monuments,” “12-15 of these combined”?Perhaps. I think it depends on how Van Aert and Van der Poel will prioritize in the coming years. Van Aert is IMO the best candidate to be the first to win all five monuments since De Vlaeminck. But then he must have to focus less on CX racing, sprints and mountain stages. If he does this, I could definitely see him winning 6-7-8 monuments during the 2020s even competing against Van der Poel in some of them.
And Van der Poel has a combination of explosivity and engine I've rarely or ever seen. That makes him especially suited for races like RVV. And he is probably the best suited rider I've ever seen to explode on Poggio and win MSR a least a couple of times during his career. There are 40 monuments left in the 2020s. In addition to 10 Olympics/Worlds. I could easily see these two guys at least winning 12-15 of these combined. But that presume that the avoid serious accidents, and that they go all in for road racing.
Of course Van Aert could win LBL. Perhaps Il Lombardia also. Van der Poel might only have 3 chances each year.The 2 of them have 1 monument each, and have both blown chances to add a 2nd, and realistically neither of them are winning Liege or especially Lombardia absent a dramatic change in parcours, so there’s really only 24 left. They have time on their sides, but let’s not go awarding them more wins than Moser in races that haven’t happened yet.