Pulling a Wiggins

[JimmyFingers]

Didn't see it but am guessing they didn't lose Wiggins.

How does getting smashed up by the Australians fit in with your Wiggins track v road narrative?

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

Who is doing the IP for England ?

Clancy
Burke
Tennant
Wiggins

Strong line-up in theory. Clancy and Burke were in the OG squad and Tennant only just got shaded by Kennaugh for selection having ridden the WC that year.

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

How does getting smashed up by the Australians fit in with your Wiggins track v road narrative?

Wiggins is even less talented now than he was in his previous track career?

 

[Dear Wiggo]

England did 3:59 in qualifying and then 4:00 in the final, which doesn't raise too many questions about how Wiggins has got up to track speed so quickly, as he's not really up to speed yet. Bobridge dropping back into the Aussie quartet and almost ripping the formation apart with his pulls mid-race in 3:54 might raise more questions, one might think!

Pretty sure Bobridge's quickest IP time would see him finish on the podium in the TP at these games.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Agreed. I was just teasing Dear Wiggo, who I think was looking forward to Wiggo powering the team to a 3:51 so he could claim further proof that talent levels on the track are low as a roadie with a few weeks training can drop straight back in at world record pace.

No. It's enough for me that the dominant BC track team can be infiltrated by a roadie has been - who then does longer turns. ie he's easily switching from road to track in 4 weeks and key in the TP.

They went quicker than at worlds

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

Pretty sure Bobridge's quickest IP time would see him finish on the podium in the TP at these games.

Between the IP and the TP in the 1996 World Champs, Boardman's IP record was faster than the GB team pursuit record!

That said, Bobridge was only just under 4:20 today in qualifying and was riding quite early, so probably wasn't coasting.

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

No. It's enough for me that the dominant BC track team can be infiltrated by a roadie has been

It's the midpoint between the OGs at the moment. The dominant GB mens TP squad is both in the past and future, but not the present. You don't dominate anyone with a 3:59 in the TP.

 

[JimmyFingers]

No. It's enough for me that the dominant BC track team can be infiltrated by a roadie has been - who then does longer turns. ie he's easily switching from road to track in 4 weeks and key in the TP.

They went quicker than at worlds.

I'll try to ignore the Admin/Mod trolling me and his squeaky little friend, Jimmy.

Red_Flanders called me a troll after I asked him to justify his claim that EBH was a clean rider, now you are doing it when I ask you to give an assessment of Wiggins' performance against an Australian squad that absolutely smashed it. Smashed it.

With three men.

Is calling someone a troll the new way of saying you don't have an answer? Is calling someone a troll...simply being a troll. And you toss in 'squeaky little friend' for a further personal insult and more avoidance of the question.

Very poor show. Run from the question. Insult the questioner.

 

[Winterfold]

Haha today's sermon looks like a big fu sir DB/sky and a renewal of his fatherly relationship with Shane Sutton

I do like him as he is a true talent/enigma but he is such a diva with it.

At least Sutton can put him in his place when needed.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Jack Bobridge (Australia) took home his second gold medal of the Commonwealth Games in as many days, despite only two weeks of training on the track. Bobridge beat his teammate Alex Edmondson in the men's individual pursuit final on Friday, one day after he helped his Australian team win the men's team pursuit, to defend both his titles from the Deli games in 2010

Just for a counter point to all the, "Wiggo couldn't ride road coz he was concentrating on the track', "do you even know how they train for track" yadda yadda.

About to lose his contract at Belkin. Should be able to podium Vuelta, right?

 

[IndianCyclist]

Between the IP and the TP in the 1996 World Champs, Boardman's IP record was faster than the GB team pursuit record!

That said, Bobridge was only just under 4:20 today in qualifying and was riding quite early, so probably wasn't coasting.

Was it with the superman position?

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Just for a counter point to all the, "Wiggo couldn't ride road coz he was concentrating on the track', "do you even know how they train for track" yadda yadda.

About to lose his contract at Belkin. Should be able to podium Vuelta, right?

The point was that to focus on the track and the road would be difficult. Bobridge may have been able to jump back to the track but how good have his road results been? You like your data points so perhaps you can give me his top 3 GT finishes on GC?

As you mention it looks like he might well lose his contract so maybe he likes his drink as much as Wiggins.

 

[the sceptic]

The point was that to focus on the track and the road would be difficult. Bobridge may have been able to jump back to the track but how good have his road results been? You like your data points so perhaps you can give me his top 3 GT finishes on GC?

As you mention it looks like he might well lose his contract so maybe he likes his drink as much as Wiggins.

I think the problem for Wiggins is that he feels guilty about doping so much.

Remember he used to be the first guy to talk about dopers, but then he joined them and doped more than the guys he hated in the first place. It cant be easy to deal with this on a personal level.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

I think the problem for Wiggins is that he feels guilty about doping so much.

Remember he used to be the first guy to talk about dopers, but then he joined them and doped more than the guys he hated in the first place. It cant be easy to deal with this on a personal level.

Yeah. Anyone who gets to the final week of the Tour - clean - with that much self loathing is seriously suffering cognitive dissonance.

Poor kid.

No wonder he's running and hiding at the Manchester velodrome.

 

[thehog]

I think the problem for Wiggins is that he feels guilty about doping so much.

Remember he used to be the first guy to talk about dopers, but then he joined them and doped more than the guys he hated in the first place. It cant be easy to deal with this on a personal level.

True and you want to go back to a place where you didn't have to make those compromises.

It's all over his face. The real story to be revealed in a corner of the bar 8 years from now.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Yeah. Anyone who gets to the final week of the Tour - clean - with that much self loathing is seriously suffering cognitive dissonance.

Poor kid.

No wonder he's running and hiding at the Manchester velodrome.

So no data points then? Probably for the best. I am getting rather bored pointing out the holes in your arguments.

 

[42x16ss]

The point was that to focus on the track and the road would be difficult. Bobridge may have been able to jump back to the track but how good have his road results been? You like your data points so perhaps you can give me his top 3 GT finishes on GC?

As you mention it looks like he might well lose his contract so maybe he likes his drink as much as Wiggins.

I guess it shows just how deep the talent pool on the track really is.

Whoops....

 

[Dear Wiggo]

I guess it shows just how deep the talent pool on the track really is.

Whoops....

Hey now. Winning gold medals with 4 minute performances is justification for smashing the best riders of the world for 3 weeks non-stop at the Tour.

Apparently.

Or something.

 

[42x16ss]

Hey now. Winning gold medals with 4 minute performances is justification for smashing the best riders of the world for 3 weeks non-stop at the Tour.

Apparently.

Or something.

So it seems. Especially when it's a 24yo with rheumatoid arthritis whose favourite pastime is cutting donuts in Spanish strip club car parks...

 

[SeriousSam]

Looks like Brad is back on his 2012 program. Will we see another Grand Tour attempt in 2015 or just the Hour Record?

 

[MartinGT]

Laughable, back to pineapple juice and fluffy pillows. 26 seconds too

 

[Benotti69]

Looks like Brad is back on his 2012 program. Will we see another Grand Tour attempt in 2015 or just the Hour Record?

No doubt Wiggins sense of entitlement means he will be winning all three grand tours next year, thankyou!

 

[BYOP88]

Ok can someone remind me, it is hard to keep up with all the marginal gains updates/changes.

For ITT's do you need to be skinny or chunky?

 

[DirtyWorks]

Looks like Brad is back on his 2012 program. Will we see another Grand Tour attempt in 2015 or just the Hour Record?

Sky keeping him out of elite races in 2014 means if he does another grand tour, it will be done on another team. Either that or Froomie leaves.

Saint David's replacement at BC didn't even put Wiggo on the road squad.

I will give Sir Brad some credit. He's on a light schedule racing 2nd-tier events with young-er support and dominant all year. Whatever he's doing out of competition, he's able to deliver consistently in competition.

 

[William H]

This was one of the least dominant wins in a Championship TT for good while. I don't think he's on 2012 form.

(Plus 2012 Wiggins wouldn't have been getting beaten up on the climbs in the ToB)