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If that value is even close Movistar is taking chances. UCI will tell them to tone down.SkyTears said:
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I haven't looked very closely at Quintana's 6.79 w/kg, but that seems awfully high in this 'new era'. I read a Tucker tweet that said it was probably for a short time span that he hit that high number, and not the entire climb.
That would make that can of coke $3.89 US dollars.... That must be a really good can of coke.Handy Bendy Ghandi said:
I haven't looked very closely at Quintana's 6.79 w/kg, but that seems awfully high in this 'new era'. I read a Tucker tweet that said it was probably for a short time span that he hit that high number, and not the entire climb.
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The worst I get is around 6.3 watts/kg and that's without drafting at all.
I bet my house that this number is wrong. By doing all the possible outcomes and iterations I never get even close to this number. This is what I call manipulation of the numbers.SkyTears said:
The worst I get is around 6.3 watts/kg and that's without drafting at all.
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This is definitely not accounted for Quintana's lower weight. Vayer often compares riders in absolute watts, assuming that all riders are 70 kg.
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The cycling motor has been out for many years now, and yes, some of the top names have used it.
Is it a step or twop below using PED's? That is a relative statement, and it depends on the individual. Some would stoop as low as to use a motor no problem in competition.
I am convinced Froome has used one, just from the drastic change in cadence on some of his attacks. That to me has always been the tell-tale sign. But we'll never know because the UCI was never interested in trying to catch him out.
Is it a step or twop below using PED's? That is a relative statement, and it depends on the individual. Some would stoop as low as to use a motor no problem in competition.
I am convinced Froome has used one, just from the drastic change in cadence on some of his attacks. That to me has always been the tell-tale sign. But we'll never know because the UCI was never interested in trying to catch him out.
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Which top name has used a motor and how do you have this infrormation?
I don't think anyone is using a motor, it's so easily detected...
Berzin said:
Which top name has used a motor and how do you have this infrormation?
I don't think anyone is using a motor, it's so easily detected...
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at 6.76 w/kg, Quintanita should have gotten really close to Pantani's record, even Armstrong's time, which would have been in total contradiction to his recorded 40: 50 minutes based on that ridiculous power output claimed by Vayer
a Question: Has Vayer already calculated Fromme's power at the PSM (stage 10) at all?
a Question: Has Vayer already calculated Fromme's power at the PSM (stage 10) at all?
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it wasn't claimed by vayer, he just retweteed something wrong. which is ridiculous enough of course.
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Why are UCI testing so few bikes?
If it got out about riders having motors it would kill the sport.
UCI dont want to catch anyone, but at the same time they have to be seen to be checking to make sure the public think there are none because of checks.
Dope testing numbers in Spain has gone down year on year since 2012.
Tyr said:
Why are UCI testing so few bikes?
If it got out about riders having motors it would kill the sport.
UCI dont want to catch anyone, but at the same time they have to be seen to be checking to make sure the public think there are none because of checks.
Dope testing numbers in Spain has gone down year on year since 2012.
the thing with engines in the bike guys...
wouldnt it be just as smart to have a engine in a sprint?
just push a button and get an extra 500 watts for 5 secs and you suddenly win every sprint
not accusing greipel or anyone but just saying it would be just as useful there as up a hill
wouldnt it be just as smart to have a engine in a sprint?
just push a button and get an extra 500 watts for 5 secs and you suddenly win every sprint
not accusing greipel or anyone but just saying it would be just as useful there as up a hill
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That's just not realistic, a 500 w boost while off the saddle, guy would just fall to the ground.
FroomehasneverdopedX said:
That's just not realistic, a 500 w boost while off the saddle, guy would just fall to the ground.
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No one has ever been found with an engine in a pro race, it's all based on a rumour and a youtube video hence the low controls.
You guys really think that someone can win a Tour or a sprint with a *** engine and get away with it? I think it's just clueless to think top riders are using an engine, so easily detectable. There's no way of escaping, no microdosing ecc, you can't possibly pass the test with any mean. If you have an engine and they test you, you are done.
Also there would be no "individual doping" the team would always be involved, you can't just sneak an engine in a bike with your team not knowing, mechanics would know. So the sanctions for the team would really be a big deterrent.
Benotti69 said:
No one has ever been found with an engine in a pro race, it's all based on a rumour and a youtube video hence the low controls.
You guys really think that someone can win a Tour or a sprint with a *** engine and get away with it? I think it's just clueless to think top riders are using an engine, so easily detectable. There's no way of escaping, no microdosing ecc, you can't possibly pass the test with any mean. If you have an engine and they test you, you are done.
Also there would be no "individual doping" the team would always be involved, you can't just sneak an engine in a bike with your team not knowing, mechanics would know. So the sanctions for the team would really be a big deterrent.
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Of course it is, but it would necessitate a drastic visual change in the transmission of a bike which has to be approved to ride.
FroomehasneverdopedX said:
Of course it is, but it would necessitate a drastic visual change in the transmission of a bike which has to be approved to ride.
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credibility gone
hfer07 said:jens_attacks said:
even worse - then why Vayer himself wants his name linked to a wrong data by sharing it in the first place??
Vayer dumba$$
credibility gone
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