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That's a nice little cobbled obstacle, should make for an interesting little stage, though I'm not sure if having the finishing line a couple of kilometres away from it might be better, although I guess that will depend on what the next stage is like, to see what the riders' likelihood of contesting it would be.

Stage 13: Omegna - Biella, 95km

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The last weekday stage of the Giro Rosa is a shortish transitional stage (the stage length is dictated by the need to remain under the UCI's rather stingy maximum average of 100km a day - my 15-stage race is 1496km in length!!!). We are still in the lakes and valleys of northern Piemonte, close to where we both started and finished yesterday, so apart from any teams who elect to stay in Domodossola there's a good chance we can save on logistics and have the teams stay in the same hotels two nights running.

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Since we're still in the same region, this will still be partisan Elisa Longo Borghini territory, and though the stage moves westwards and away from her home fans, we can still expect her to be among the most popular as it's quite likely that unless Tatiana Guderzo is able to recapture something of her form from five years ago or Francesca Cauz can really step up her game in the mountains, Elisa will still be the best-placed Italian rider on the GC at this point, even if she will inevitably lose time on the San Domenico climb she despises. Omegna, today's depart, is a town on Lago d'Orta perhaps best known as one of the centres of paisan resistance to Fascist occupation. The early parts of the stage head around the eastern edges of the lake before we turn southwest and into the foothills of the Biellese Alps.

As a result of this, the stage is pretty undulating, and will readily suit a breakaway. There's quite a bit of climbing, but little of it serious. The first climb, to Cremosina, is very gradual - 8km but only averaging around 2,5% with a steepest 500m at 8%. This road was badly damaged due to landslip in 2014 but has since been rebuilt and given a shiny new layer of tarmac on top of the strengthened road foundation. It will make a good place for some of those who are strong riders for this kind of terrain but who are likely to have been marginalized by the GC (Brand, Armitstead, Ratto), or even some of those who are climbers but may not have been strong enough or experienced enough to duke it out at the actual head of the field against the bigger stars (here I would think of young riders like Sabrina Stultiens and Dalia Muccioli, and second-tier climbers like Tetyana Riabchenko) to form a breakaway, and especially if the big teams are represented they may be prepared to allow them to take this stage, with an important final weekend for the GC to come; there is then a similarly gradual and fast descent into Borgosesia.

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After a period of false flat, which leads to a brief descent which is a little more technical, but is far enough out to be easily recoverable from even for the weaker descenders out there, the riders arrive in Valle Mosso, from which our next climb emanates. The hilltop town of Pettinengo is a useful little multi-sided climb in the pre-alpine foothills above Biella, although here we climb arguably the easiest side - although there's a kilometre or so at a little over 6% partway up, it's mostly little more than false flat with a few ramps to keep the riders honest. From here we then descend via a gradual but, for the first part, twisting, route into Biella, whereupon we cross the river and have a slightly complex, uphill run-in through the city before a flat final two kilometres including three right-angle corners, the last of which is 400m from the line. The first time across the line is just an intermediate sprint, before we do a looping 25km circuit which also includes shortly afterwards the second intermediate sprint.

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The key part of this circuit, cresting at 9,8km from the line, is the climb to the pass between a small outcrop and the rest of the pre-Alpine mountains, called the Brich di Zumaglia, where a castle (above) sits above the road we shall be using and serves as a wonderful viewpoint both down into the Po Valley towards Turin, and up towards the Biellese Alps and the Santuario di Oropa. This climb is hardly a monster but close enough to the finish that it should see some action, whether it be from the break or, if anybody is struggling for recovery after two weeks' hard racing in the favourites group, the pace being upped to put the hurt on. The last 2km of the climb average 6,5% and are the only really challenging ones, even including an awkward short stretch of rounded cobbles. From there, however, there's a flat kilometre or so before we join the descent from Pettinengo that we did earlier and continue the race into Biella.

Biella has hosted the men's Giro twice as a stage finish, once in 1964 and once in 1996. It is also, however, the city which pays for the stage finishes at the now legendary Santuario di Oropa, first seen in 1963, last seen in 2014, but of course legendary for the 1999 exploits of Il Pirata. I shouldn't have to recount the story for you there, just suffice to say it's one of the most well-remembered shows Pantani ever put on, arguably second only to Les-Deux-Alpes. Here, however, we're not climbing to Oropa; this is a punchy stage instead, so we should see either individuals or small-to-mid-sized groups arriving in Biella together.

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Lady of the stage: Alena Amialiusik

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Born in Belarus in 1989, Alena Amialiusik has been one of the top 15 riders in the world, per CQ, for the last four seasons. Two of which were with the underfunded BePink team, followed by one with the same squad but with the Astana cash injection. With the Astana apparatus divorcing itself from the BePink framework in 2015, Amialiusik was clearly the prize attraction in the team auction; neither side of the team could afford her and she moved on to the Velocio-SRAM squad. One positive of this was that we got to see their crazy interpretation of a Belarusian national champion's kit! Although in pure points terms CQ-wise she did not pick up as many points last season as in 2014, it is worth noting that the main reason for this is that arguably her biggest achievement on the road last season did not pay any points at all - her win in Baku at the European Games road race. This was a fascinating tactical game in the last couple of laps, with the circuit being hilly at points but with a comparatively long flat run-in, and with three riders at the head of the field who were not typically recognized for their sprint; Alena and two riders who were trade teammates, van der Breggen and Niewiadoma. Alena was the strongest of the three, however, and took home a very well-deserved gold medal for her trouble, comprehensively outsprinting them with a show of power. Perhaps as a result of her strong TT prowess and the fact that, away from the bike, she is studying law, Amialiusik often is characterized - rather unfairly in my opinion - as being rather serious, perhaps falling victim to the same kind of national stereotyping that many post-Soviet states, especially CIS ones, have received, but she can be an aggressive racer at times, and she can also poke fun at herself at times as well (such as the time she posted a picture of herself with her 27th birthday cake, adorned with Hello Kitty because "in many ways I'm still a small child".

Hilly racing is where Amialiusik is at her best, having made the podium of the Trofeo Alfredo Binda in 2014 and the Philadelphia Classic in 2015 among World Cup events. She has top 10s at the Giro dell'Emilia and La Flèche Wallonne, but she prefers races not to finish at the very top of walls, as she has a good tactical head for racing from small groups in the run-in, such as the European Games and also when she won the Muri Fermani race in terrain similar to that used in stage 3 around Potenza Picena. A lot of her best results in stage races have come in intermediate terrain - for example winning the Graciá-Orlová stage race in the Czech Republic, making the podium of the oft-derided Tour de Languedoc-Roussillon (derided more for poor preparation and rider facilities than the racing or route, however, it must be said) and the Route de France, and the top 5 of the medium-mountain Tour de l'Ardêche. Her best ever Giro GC result is 10th, which she achieved in 2013, although she has also been top 20 both years since then. I'm thinking that if this stage goes to the break, which I think it may well do, Amialiusik is the kind of rider who would want to get into the break on a stage like this, far enough down the GC to be allowed to escape, but high enough on it to have something to gain from doing so. With her climbing nous she would likely be among the strongest climbers that could get into such a breakaway, and yet also one of the faster finishers of those who could get to the top of that climb in the front group as well. And if it were all intact in the group, she's the kind of rider who could make an attack on the final climb stick, using her TT prowess to the end; with the showdown to come at the weekend, it would be unlikely too many major GC hands would be too keen to expend that much energy on chasing somebody as strong as her.
 
Stage 14: Ivrea - Ivrea, 34,3km (ITT)

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The battle lines are drawn for the final weekend of the Giro Rosa, and that means a highly decisive chrono; this route features more significant mountain stages over a longer period of time than we often see in the Giro Rosa in its current ten-day form, and therefore the time trial needs to be longer to balance it out; in fact, this would be the longest time trial seen in women's cycling in quite some time, as even World Championships time trials tend to be between 25 and 30 kilometres in length; that said, most men's World Championships time trials are in the 45-50km range, and the Giro has twice in the last seven editions gone well beyond this, with some very difficult time trials including climbing, descending and general suffering, both the brutal 62km Cinque Terre time trial in 2009 and the 59km Valdobbiadene time trial in 2015 can be mentioned; the long time trial in 2013 was 55km as well - so exceeding the big championship distances is not unacceptable, and of course coming at the end of two weeks of difficult racing this should have some very tired legs which should mean some significant gaps that will hurt the likes of Abbott and balance the race more toward the all-rounders.

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The battleground that I have chosen for this showdown of woman against clock against bike in a winner takes all triple threat match is the city of Ivrea, whose historic centre is a candidate for the World Heritage list. The city has a number of spectacular sights, from its imposing castle to its roman theatre remains, but it is perhaps best known to the outside world for la battaglia delle arance ("The Battle of the Oranges"), a colossal food fight similar in character to La Tomatina that rages for three days in February as part of the town's carnival in the scenic central square.

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It has also served as a host of the Giro d'Italia a number of times, most recently for a lengthy transitional stage in the 2013 Giro from Valloire, which included a late climb of the Andrate ascent between Ivrea and Biella and was won emotionally by Beñat Intxausti, two years almost to the day after teammate Xavier Tondó died literally in his arms. It was also a notable stage for another reason; at the 2013 Giro stage winners were given large flags to celebrate with, except for one, as Beñat refused to wave the Spanish flag. Anyway, I digress.

There's no Andrate climb here in this 34km test of strength, although there are a few ramps and rises to prevent this from being the pure power test of the stage 2 San Benedetto del Tronto chrono. In actuality the course consists of three loops around Ivrea of varying lengths. The first is very short, only around 5km, and is a rolling uphill to the southwesternmost tip of Lago di Sirio before returning to town.

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The second circuit sees a more sustained uphill drag, passing the eastern side of the lake after an uphill section, then a staggered, stepped ascent around the edges of Chiaverano that includes two short ramps of 9% before reaching the high point of the chrono at Casali Sierra, where the first timecheck will be taken. This first 10,8km is the hardest part of the time trial and the less chrono-adept riders will face a choice - do they try to go hard on this part of the route, where they can potentially limit loss or even make gains, and risk running out of gas on the flatter parts where they could lose big time? Or do they save energy on this part of the course to have more energy on the flat, knowing that they are still inevitably going to lose time in that part of the course but giving up the chance to benefit in an area they hold at least some cards?

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There is then a fast and almost completely non-technical downhill into Cascinette d'Ivrea before 5km flat leading into a little loop including a small but inconsequential ramp as we curl around the base of La Serra, which was descended through in that 2013 stage after Andrate. There's then the absolute power section - 12km of flat out time trialling where those with the best absolute power can make their time up. There are no sharp corners; there are corners but these are mainly slip roads and curves rather than anything that requires significant acceleration and deceleration, so the power gains of the strongest riders shouldn't be limited. This finishes the second circuit and makes up the majority of the third, which takes in the historic and scenic fortified town of Pavone Canavese.

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This circuit circumnavigates a small hill which we break from the flat to ascend late before heading back to Ivrea; it is not especially long or steep so unlikely to greatly impact, but should break up the rhythm of the less adept time triallists nonetheless; it comes just 3,2km from the end so riders need to get frantically back up to pace for the final charge - given the lesser depth in the women's péloton and that this comes on the end of two weeks' racing, I anticipate this one creating huge gaps.

Lady of the stage: Anna van der Breggen

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While maybe not as immediately obvious as Mara for the San Domenico MTF, picking Anna van der Breggen for this stage was not a difficult choice. The reasoning isn't really difficult to grasp either; put simply, it's a slightly complex time trial route on the penultimate day of a Grand Tour; in the real Giro Rosa in 2015 they had a difficult TT stage into Nebbiuno with a hilly phase and some pure power phases, on the penultimate day, and Anna VDB made mincemeat of the field, stomping it by a minute. Anna's GC bid was built around that, and she executed her plan to perfection. She historically performs better the longer a time trial gets, and this one's 50% longer than the one she won at the 2015 Giro Rosa. Which of course is the reason she'd be one of the favourites for this race - after all, she is only kind of the defending champion.

As pure road racers go, Anna van der Breggen is one of the most versatile out there; she doesn't tend to do the off-road moonlighting anymore, but a week after completing her victory in the toughest, climbiest stage race of the calendar, she used her TT skills to "do a Vino" on the Champs Elysées to win La Course, a pan flat one day race. The only weakness in her game is her sprint; she has in recent months even managed to lose in a sprint with Claudia Lichtenberg, which is quite an achievement (I adore Claudi, but her sprint is... let's be kind and call it "not a strength, even remotely"... which is probably why she has to race aggressively in fairness), which means that if she wants to build her palmarès, a lot of riding alone or in small groups is required. And given the state of her palmarès (2nd in the World Cup last year, 1st on CQ) it shows you how adept she is at that. In some respects, her palmarès could also be better; when she turned pro it was with the comparatively low budget Sengers team from Belgium, where she was clearly a big fish in a small pond from the word go; while she did get to do a few World Cups and even did well (top 10 of de Ronde, top 5 of Plouay), the lack of support hamstrung her ability to progress; in races with slightly weaker startlists, she bossed the field, however, and was stellar in the World Championships road race in support of Vos. In 2013 she built on her results and it was clear she'd outgrown the team; signing for Rabo turned her into an integral part of their unstoppable juggernaut of 2014 - led by Vos and PFP, with Anna and Annemiek van Vleuten riding shotgun, they were a force, and van der Breggen showcased that she was now a serious climbing threat as well en route to the podium of Bira and the Giro. And in 2015 of course, we know how that ended up.

It's actually notable that Anna doesn't actually do that many full length TTs, although crashing out and being hospitalized after the horrific crash in the 2014 Worlds TTT obviously played a part in that. However, it's certainly worth noting that the further into races we go the better Anna gets - so recovery is a strong point, which will be key here as the TT comes at the end of two difficult weeks of racing - and the longer a TT gets, the stronger she is in it, as evidenced by the national championship where she beat TT specialist Ellen van Dijk over a pan flat 26,5km, or the World Championships, where over 30k she missed out on gold by just 3 seconds to Linda Villumsen; Villumsen had built her whole season around that race, and had only raced one race outside the USA since February with a two month break before her Worlds prep races, whereas in that same period Anna VDB had been fighting almost weekly in the most high profile races, winning a GT and competing at the front of everything she entered. Villumsen is unlikely to enter the Giro (and if she does, may well have gone home by this point); van Dijk is likely to lose out to Anna on recovery and because of that tricky first 10km; Brennauer tends not to race the Giro... and I don't see anybody else out there who can beat Anna over this distance on this kind of course.

Just one stage left now, and hopefully we have a showdown set up, with some tired legs out there.
 
Giro Rosa stage 15: Pont-Saint-Martin - Aosta, 130km

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This probably comes as very little surprise to those long-time followers of the race design thread - after all, it's pretty much common knowledge that I <3 the Valle d'Aosta. While it may not have Fedaia (Fedaia!), it is nevertheless possibly my favourite actual part of Italy, a gloriously clean and gorgeously scenic valley surrounded by a range of other smaller valleys, with a huge range of climbs of all kind within a very compact area. The Giro delle Valle d'Aosta is possibly the finest U23 race in the world, and the area is also comparatively untapped in men's cycling, as although we do see it periodically in the Giro and, less frequently, the Tour, we are rather used to the drill there - Joux or Saint-Panthaléon before Cervinia. It has been seven years since the Bernards were seen (in the 2009 Tour), ten years since the hellaciously steep Colle San Carlo (2006 Giro) and even longer since we saw Pila (1992 Giro). In the Giro d'Italia Femminile, it's a pretty much untapped area; it has possibly been used in the 90s, during the first heyday of Fabiana Luperini, but even though there were a couple of stages in the Valais in 2004 and 2005 following Swiss interest (possibly due to Nicole Brändli), no Valdôtain stages. Which makes it ripe for (re?)discovery for the women's péloton, with so many climbing options at hand within a relatively small area, making logistics easier and also, if the area were to become supportive, you could use the same stage towns every year with completely different stages to keep the race from becoming repetitive!

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With its preserved Roman bridge that gives it its name, the small town of Pont-Saint-Martin serves as the gateway to the Valle d'Aosta from Piemonte, and commonly hosts stage starts in the Giro. I have therefore pressed it into action for the same purpose today, although here we're headed into the heart of the region rather than away as in 2015. There are four serious climbs awaiting the women today, not all the iconic climbs of the area either, so there are potential banana skins. These start from the word go, as very quickly the riders arrive in Verrès. This town serves as the base of the more gradual side of the Col de Joux and two of my favourites, the relentless Estoul and even more so, my beloved Col Tze Core, which is right up there in the list of possible second favourites. I'm only a partial masochist however, so no Tze Core straight from the gun (I will save that for the future!). Instead we take on the first few kilometres followed by a short Mur de Huy-alike appended on the end: the Col d'Arlaz.

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Like, well, everywhere in the Valle d'Aosta, the views here are stunning, but there's no time to admire them for the riders as they now have a tricky and technical descent into the beautiful preserved town of Saint-Vincent. Mara is already cursing me for giving her all these great climbs to smash people on, but then all these tricky descents to let them come back to her... there's now a bit of respite, so while I anticipate that Arlaz will have shelled some chaff (many riders will abandon a 15-day Giro, I know that, but to have got this far you'd anticipate people working their tails off to finish), there's a good consolidation period with around 30km of flat including a first passage of the finish line as we head through the historic centre of the city of Aosta itself. The finish line is on a relatively wide but cobbled road from the train station to the city's central square of Piazza Émile Chanoux. The road is the bottom one in this image, I will put the finish line at the entrance to the square. The riders here will turn left and head through this type of classic Italian city centre road to rejoin the main roads - as the race will be fairly benign at this point it shouldn't cause any trouble, and even so Italian women's races such as the Trofeo Binda include such sections with some regularity.

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Now, however, things start to hot up. There are three climbs in the second half of the stage, all tricky in their own way. First up is Verrogne.

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Verrogne is a popular ascent with traceurs, although it's only seen infrequently in the U23 Giro delle Valle d'Aosta and never in the Giro or Tour. It is quite well located, has at least four sides, backs directly out of Aosta itself and provides a sufficiently high pass to provide a real first category test before, say, San Carlo or an MTF somewhere like Cogne, Pila or Valgrisenche depending on which side you use. Starting from the iconic Castello di Sarre, this is a relentless ascent which will certainly isolate a few of the climbers on teams with less depth when it comes to the mountains (here I'm thinking Claudia Lichtenberg and Ashleigh Moolman-Pasio will be the most hamstrung). We stop climbing just short of the little village and refuge of Vétan, and then it's a swooping descent.

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The descent is broken up by a brief break to take on supplies (a short uphill drag for 3km or so) before the second part of the descent, which is very technical and I anticipate could cause some problems for the less adept descenders. Nevertheless, the roads are wide and comfortable, this isn't Pramartino - it's just that there are a lot of difficult corners back to back and keeping pace will be a challenge for the weaker descenders. We then cross the valley floor via the picture-perfect town of Arvier.

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This leads us into our next climb, the second-category Combes. One of the less well-known climbs of the Valle d'Aosta (this is perhaps as it sits above the Col d'Introd, which is often used as it gives one of the few opportunities in the area for a proper punchy climb rather than a real mountain climber's test), it opens up with a vicious first two kilometres at 10%, before gradually easing off; it's 37km from the line at the summit so it's certainly possible we will see some moves, especially if some people are feeling the Emma Pooley "they know I'll attack on the last climb, so I'll attack on the penultimate one to surprise them" trick might be in order.

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Again it's a technical descent, with 13 switchbacks and a number of other corners taking us into another scenic small town, this time Villeneuve, whose cobbled centre is the bane of many a Valdostan bus driver's life (having been on a few Valdostan buses, I'm rather glad *I* didn't have to drive through it!). There are two intermediate sprints in quick succession here, which may cause some action if there's a small group as bonus seconds can always help - but of course it will depend on how tight the GC is, whether there's a group up the road and what the composition of that group is. Somebody playing monitor might have to steal a sprint to prevent a GC threat up the road getting those bonuses, for example. And then, the coup de gras, another less well-known climb in the area but an excellently located one for causing a final roll of the dice: the Col du Lin-Noir.

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Yes, we're crossing over back near Verrogne again, and yes, that is 6km at 9,4% at the start there. This will be a major obstacle; it's not so long that the gaps are inevitably so huge riders can leave their attacking until now, but it's steep enough that gaps are pretty much a given. Plus that last few false flat kilometres rather masks it and it may be underestimated a little as a result. I see this stage as being an amped-up version of the 2015 stage to Morbegno, which didn't use the monster climbs in its valley, instead using a succession of the not-quite-monster climbs back to back. It shredded the group, and Mayuko Hagiwara got the well-deserved win solo, but with Naso di Gatto and the ITT the following day, some of the GC threats were a bit hesitant to go too aggressively and pay for it the following days; not so here. Here there's no further days. The Giro Rosa has gone with a final day MTF the last two years, but I prefer to finish with a mountain stage with a descent on the basis that there's nothing to rest up for, no reason to hold back, therefore we should tempt the action earlier. The climb crests with just 12km from the line (the marker on my profile is a little early due to a glitch), 9 of which are frenetic descent, again chocked full of switchbacks and technical tests that will keep any attacker honest. All that remains upon the end of the descent is a 3km loop around Aosta allowing us to pass the beautiful roman theatre remains and the Arco d'Augusto in this beautiful valley city, which will surely provide a heroine's welcome to those riders who've survived my brutal Giro Rosa, and with its pristine and scenic centre will be a fabulous way to sign off on the race.

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Lady of the stage: Katarzyna Niewiadoma

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I'm sure nobody will be surprised to see me award a stage to Kasia Niewiadoma, one of the brightest rising stars in the sport, and who I've been rather raving about for the best part of two years now. Still just 21, the young Pole has rather now become a name everybody is at least aware of, as part of a multi-headed Rabobank onslaught, especially in hilly and mountainous races. Although she had been seen as a talented prospect before, drawing some attention as an 18-year-old climbing with far more experienced pros in smaller races for her Polish domestic team, and in the Boels Rentals Tour when she finished top 10 as a stagiare thanks mainly to a strong performance in the mini-Amstel-Gold stage, it was upon turning pro in 2014 that just what Rabo had got their hands on became clear. After a relatively quiet start to the season she won a couple of hilly races in middling fields in Switzerland, and booked her ticket to the Giro Rosa. A few heads turned - Rabo-Liv had the strongest team in women's cycling, and despite no fewer than four legit potential leaders, they were taking a teenage neo-pro to the Giro? For the smaller Italian teams that mightn't be so surprising, but Rabo? The choice paid off and then some; Kasia immediately sprung to attention when, on the San Fior stage, she was the last rider to be dropped on this climb by Emma Pooley. And she showed she had excellent recovery when on the final MTF to Madonna del Ghisallo, she attacked at the base of the final climb, with Rabo knowing opposition teams could not allow them to give a platform for Vos, PFP or Anna VDB to ride over to, and the pace of chasing her dropped some very strong climbers, including Evelyn Stevens and Francesca Cauz; despite this she still clung on to a top 15 finish on the stage and 11th overall. She was then on the attack on the final lap of the World Championships road race, so she's got the ability to recover and to compete all season long.

Last year, of course, Niewiadoma was no longer able to live up to her name (which of course translates as "unknown"). Not that she tried; as she said after yesterday's Strade Bianche, she doesn't really have a sprint so doesn't expect to win from groups, which means she has to attack; which is something she does regularly. Making the top 10 of nearly every major hilly race she entered - including 5th in La Flèche Wallonne - and of course, perhaps most importantly, with Vos and PFP both injured, she joined Anna in stepping up to the plate for the team, winning overall in the Emakumeen Bira, the women's Vuelta al País Vasco, one of the toughest climbing races of the calendar, thanks to an explosive final stage around Markina-Xemein where she attacked repeatedly to protect an almost non-existent advantage over Emma Johansson and Ashleigh Moolman-Pasio. She then produced the key move to lead to the European Games silver medal and entered the Giro as a dark horse candidate. Eventually finishing 5th, the Pole continued to show top level climbing and an improved time trial, as well as sacrificing herself to help van der Breggen defend the maglia rosa on San Domenico di Varzo. She wasn't done yet, though, outfoxing the rouleurs and sprinters to unexpectedly win the European U23 road race on a course in Tartu, Estonia, which really shouldn't have suited her, and finished in the top 10 in the World Championships road race as well as collecting a bronze for the Team Time Trial in Richmond.

I've left Kasia all the way to the final stage mainly because she has yet to really impose herself on a proper mountaintop finish, unlike those I awarded those stages to; however, she does love a good drawn out climb, and she is at her best on stages that are up and down all day; this stage has a lot of cumulative climbing but with the amount of technical descending and as the last chance saloon it isn't ideal for the likes of Abbott. Niewiadoma also has the benefit of various potential race situations. She has displayed that she has good recovery and, at 21, she is still getting stronger as well, so is likely to be on competitive form at this point in the race. If Rabo are chasing the maglia rosa, Kasia is dangerous; if she herself is not close enough to be a threat, she can give somebody for Anna or PFP to ride across to, in which case she would likely be gifted the win; if she herself is close enough to be a threat, it can cause panic. She's liable to attack anyway, as it's her style, and mid-length and steep climbs are absolutely her terrain, having grown up in the medium mountains that we often see on the last couple of days of the Tour de Pologne - her hometown, Limanowa, is a wintersports area and is also the hometown of Justyna Kowalczyk, so there's plenty of hilly and medium mountain terrain around including some steep stuff that I wish the Tour de Pologne would use! And if Rabo do have the maglia rosa, she's a strong enough climber to play monitor to sabotage any break, and if it's strong enough to go the distance she can anchor them all the way then pip them at the top of Lin-Noir having not had to work.
 
Ah, Libertine, Using the Valle d'Aosta very well there I see. I too love it, and it is always a shame that the Giro does not go there more often. The stage this year was alright, but the finish at Cervinia took the sting out of the previous two climbs, and it was a boring MTF despite the fcat it had 3 cat. 1's. I suppose the reason it is not very used is because it is is hard to get there: the only road in is through Pont Saint Martin, or else over the Swiss side of Gran San Bernardo., but the Giro isn't going to do that.
 

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Stage 2: Famalicão - São Bento (Vizela) (112km)


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After a double jouney in the previous day, GP JN has it's 2nd day with the queen stage of the race. Stage 2 will connect Famalicão to Vizela in the ascent of São Bento in a total of 112km. Although short it will be a difficult and explosive stage with 7 categorized climbs, being the last one coincident to the finish line.

Famalicão is the city that will host the start of the stage. Famalicão is a town and municipality in the district of Braga, in the north of Portugal (Minho region). The population in 2011 was 133,832, in an area of 201.59 km². The municipality is one of the most important to the Portuguese economy since it's a very industrialized area contributing a lot to the country exportations. Famalicão is also the hometown of Tiago Machado (Trek) considered one of the best portuguese cyclists nowadays.

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The race will be though right from the begining. In km 10.7 riders have the first climb of the day in Outeiro, a short cat.4 that shouldn't create big problems. After Outeiro, the route carries the peloton to the city of Braga, where we have the 2nd climb of the day in Sameiro. Sameiro is a cat.2 ascent (6.1km; 6.1%) that can create some problems to the most unfit riders. This is the same climb used in 2015 NC, won by Rui Costa.

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Next we have more less 10km of descent, in direction to Guimarães. In the final of this descent period there are a couple of flat km's that will bring the main group to the 3rd ascent of the day to the Parque do Souto in the 46.3km. Finished the climb, the race continues in direction to Guimarães, the birthtown of D.Afonso Henriques the 1st portuguese king and the man that conquer the independence of Portuguese Kingdom, because of that Guimarães is known as the birthplace of Portugal.

Guimarães (wall of the castle with the phrase: "Portugal was born here")
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Guimarães is also where the 4th climb of the day starts, with the ascent to the Penha Sanctuary. This climb is a cat.2 like Sameiro but although shorter is more steep, having right in the begining some ramps in pavé.

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After that climb the main group should be reduced and there are only 50km to the finish line. The first of that 50km's are in descent that finishes with the 5th ascent of the day and in theory the most easy climb of the stage in Pombeiro. Finished Pombeiro, the race continues in direction to Felgueiras where a small wall is expecting the resistent riders of the day. The climb to Santa Quitéria is short but very steep and after 5 climbs and almost 80km of race it can create important gaps and it can be an opportunity to long range attacks, because since the finish of the climb to the finish line there are more less 30km to go.
The final 30km's will be a roller coaster ride, with a lot of small hills. The roads are also very winding with several curves. That roads will bring the exhausted riders to the town of Vizela where start the last climb of the day and the last km's to finish line, but those km's will not be easy, in fact, the last 3.4km's would be a hell to everyone. The climb to São Bento is short but is extremely steep, being very similar to the climb of Malhão (well known because of Volta ao Algarve).

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This is a stage for pure climbers and should create big gaps between the favourites. It also makes possible a long range attack. Who wants to win the race has to win a comfortable advantage here because in the last stage there is the possibility of someone recover decisive time in the final km's.
 
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This thread has changed my life! I always thought I was the only person designing races, I've been doing it for 14 years and when I was 12, 11 years ago, I got invited to the launch of the Tour of Britain. I'll start my time on this thread with a route design for the 2019 Tour de France.

I've tried to post this 3 times and keep getting logged out.

Overview
We're starting in Luxembourg City and that's the most northerly point of the race, apart from Paris. Despite starting in the mid-east of the country our first mountain stage will be the Pyrenees. It's a race which suits pure climbers but there's 99km of time trialling to balance it all out.

Prologue - Luxembourg City - 9km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 12.43.28 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

Prologues have gone out of fashion recently but they return in 2019 with this one. It starts in the new town and finishes in the old town but in between we head out to the east of the city into the suburbs. It's a flat course but a climb with 600m will hurt anyone who went too hard early on.

Stage 1 - Luxembourg City - Luxembourg City - 169km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 2.42.24 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

This wont hurt the GC contenders but it'll be too much for the pure sprinters. The course is a double figure of eight, the riders will start out going due north before cutting east and eventually looping back round to the south. This is somewhere between a sprinter's stage and an Ardennes classic.

Stage 2 - Esch-sur-Alzette - Metz - 145km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 2.42.54 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

This might be the easiest stage of the race. It's 8km until we eventually end up in France. The climb of the Cote de Vaux tops out with a little over 11km to go but it's so small that it would take something very impressive to split apart the peloton. Expect a pure sprinter to win.

Stage 3 - Kaiserslautern - Strasbourg - 217km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 2.43.17 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr
This is a stage of two halves. The first half is through the grippy roads of the norther Vosges and will break apart the peloton but then it's onto the flat plains of the Rhine for the final 117km. It should be another stage for the pure sprinters.

Stage 4 - Strasbourg - Saint-Die-des-Vosges - 165km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 2.43.41 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

It's virtually exactly the same as yesterday's stage but reversed. The finishing climbs aren't hard enough to dislodge the GC contenders but they will distance some of the sprinters. GC contenders need to stay on guard today as the stage screams ambush.

The following stages will be uploaded throughout the weekend. I hope you enjoy!
 
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The second half of the first week of the 2019 Tour de France continues with grippy roads in the Vosges and Jura.

Stage 5 - Gerardmer - Belfort - 123km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 2.44.03 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

We're going through the Vosges but there's not many mountains to speak of on the route. The intermediate sprint is at Plancher-Bas, near the foot of Les Planches Des Belles Filles. The mountain will be a backdrop to the stage today rather than the main attraction.

Stage 6 - Belfort - Dole - 158km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 2.44.22 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

The stages for sprinters are very quickly running out now. The stage today is lumpy but it's not overly difficult and it will be another hard day for the sprinter's teams as they try and lure back the early break. It will be an off day for the GC men today, the first showdown will be tomorrow.

Stage 7 - Poligny - Chateau Chalon - 32km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 2.44.45 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

This is going to be a horrible stage. The first 4km are all uphill before the first respite thanks to the high Vosges plateau. After a gradual descent it steepens into the bottom of the Jura escarpment, from here there's just 12km left to ride. That includes the steep climb to Chateau Chalon at the end of the stage. Pacing will be key on this stage, go too hard too soon and you will blow up on the final climb.

The second week will follow tonight.
 
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Welcome and I look forward seeing the rest of your Tour and future posts. Just like you, I started creating races at around the age of 12 and only discovered this thread late last year. Before that, I would create races and match them up as close as possible in Pro Cycling Manager after designing it on paper then racing them in the game but newer versions got rid of this feature. It is nice that there is a larger group of people interested in course design because so many people are creative and it is nice to see the differences in routes.
 
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Welcome and I look forward seeing the rest of your Tour and future posts. Just like you, I started creating races at around the age of 12 and only discovered this thread late last year. Before that, I would create races and match them up as close as possible in Pro Cycling Manager after designing it on paper then racing them in the game but newer versions got rid of this feature. It is nice that there is a larger group of people interested in course design because so many people are creative and it is nice to see the differences in routes.

What do you mean by that?
 
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cycleMN said:
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Welcome and I look forward seeing the rest of your Tour and future posts. Just like you, I started creating races at around the age of 12 and only discovered this thread late last year. Before that, I would create races and match them up as close as possible in Pro Cycling Manager after designing it on paper then racing them in the game but newer versions got rid of this feature. It is nice that there is a larger group of people interested in course design because so many people are creative and it is nice to see the differences in routes.

What do you mean by that?

Now you have to design every element of the stage in PCM and can't just pull in stages already in the game and do a basic job of editing. The change was made cira 2010. If you can still edit the original way, I would still like to know how.
 
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I'll continue with the backend of the first week and the beginning of the second week of the 2019 Tour de France.

Stage 8 - Arbois - Bourg-en-Bresse - 200km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 9.57.59 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

The GC contenders wont have any time to relax after their exploits in the previous days TT. We're going due south to the northern Alps and the town of Bourg-en-Bresse, famous for its chickens. The first 70km are fairly benign but once we're in view of Bourg-en-Bresse the route turns ugly and sends the riders over some very rough terrain. Could be an opportunity for a break.

Stage 9 - Saint Etienne - Aubenas - 135km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 10.03.55 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

The distance will be appealing even if the profile isn't. This is a seriously hard stage, the climbs aren't particularly steep but they're long and, at this time of the year, very hot. This could be another stage for a break but the final climb tops out just 7 downhill kilometers from the finish so there's nothing to lose if a GC rider decides to go for it.

Stage 10 - Bordeaux - Pau - 210km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 10.05.00 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

The riders spent the first rest day surrounded by the vineyards of Bordeaux. It's a long but fairly easy first day back, don't expect the sprinter's teams to let this gift of a stage get away from them. Trivia: this is one of only two stages that don't contain a categorised climb.

Stage 11 - Pau - Lourdes - 154km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 10.05.59 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

One of the biggest problems recently has been ASO's use of big Pyrenean climbs in the middle of stages where they just get lost. On the face of it this stage seems to have the same issues, but, the Col d'Aubisque serves as an entree to the World Championship-esque finishing circuits. The roads are narrow and the climbs are steep. If anyone found the opening climbs hard then these circuits will be brutal.

Stage 12 - Argeles-Gazost - Portet d'Aspet - 182km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 10.06.35 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

This is the Queen Stage of the race. The main favourites will have been shadow boxing up until this point but they will be forced into action on this stage. The Tourmalet, Aspin, Peyresourde and Bales together would be an incredibly hard stage, this one has added in the Col de Mente and Portet d'Aspet for good measure. There's a downhill finish, the only kind part of the stage.

The third weekend of racing and beginning of the final week will follow later!
 
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The Queen Stage of the 2019 Tour de France has been and gone but there's plenty of brilliant and hard stages to come.

Stage 13 - Foix - Andorra Arcalis - 129km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 10.07.12 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

Another short stage but this is all pain. There's no downhill until 77km into the stage and then it's short lived. None of the climbs are that steep but they're so long that we will certainly see abandonments. Plus, we're about to hit the third weekend and exhaustion is setting in. This is not the stage that the peloton need.

Stage 14 - Carcassonne - Sete - 205km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 10.07.37 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

This is another stage for the sprinters but there's two main difficulties; the first 50km and the Mistral wind that blows on the south coast. The riders would prefer this to be a shorter stage, we're on the 4th 200+km stage and there's two more left. Because this is a Saturday there will be plenty of people out on the road, the support might be all that's needed for the sprinters to get through the opening 50km.

Stage 15 - Nimes - Die - 207km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 10.07.55 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

We're not quite in the Ardeche but we're close, that means heat. Lots of heat. As with so many stages in this Tour de France, it's a sprinter's stage if they really really want it. I suspect this will be a stage for the breakaway artists though. The riders will be able to see the Alps on the horizon for the entire day, that's where they will be for the rest of the race.

Stage 16 - Gap - Guillestre - 58km TT
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 10.08.22 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

This is it, the race for the GC takes charge for the next four stages. It's been a race suited to the pure climbers up until now but this will go a long way to balancing it out. We finish above 1000m but there's not much in the way of climbing on this route, it's just long, very very long. A pure climber could be looking at a 5 minute deficit once he's crossed the line.

Stage 17 - Guillestre - Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne - 133km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 10.08.55 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

This is a difficult stage but it's short and it's a long way from the top of the Galibier to the finish. When this is the easiest stage in the Alps though you know just how hard this final week is going to be. Expect to see GC contenders ranked lower than 5th make the most moves this stage.

Stage 18 - Pontcharra - Bourg d'Oisan - 214km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 10.09.16 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

This might be the Queen Stage of the race, it will certainly feel like the hardest at this point of the race. We're in uncharted Tour de France territory with the first climb of the day, the very steep Col du Champ Laurent will be an unpleasant post-breakfast exertion for the peloton. It's nothing compared to the Croix der Fer, Telegraphe, Galibier triple later in the day. If you're not within 2 minutes of the yellow jersey at the finish line then you can say goodbye to yellow for another year.

Stage 19 - Briancon - Alpe d'Huez - 80km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 10.09.32 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

It's a short stage but it packs a lot in. The climb up the Lautaret isn't steep but it's long and it'll be too much for most of the field. There's a long and very quick descent before the final climb of the race, the famous Alpe d'Huez. Whoever is in yellow at the end of the day will be the winner of the 2019 Tour de France. Expect fireworks.

Stage 20 - Melun - Paris - 101km
Screen Shot 2016-03-11 at 10.10.24 PM by Sam Larner, on Flickr

The final stage, it's a straight run from Melun to Paris with the small matter of the Champs Elysees laps at the end. Another short stage will be well received by the tiring peloton. All the jerseys should have been wrapped up at this point apart from perhaps the points jersey, if that's the case then expect a blistering final sprint!

Thanks guys, I'll be back with another race very shortly.
 
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Now you have to design every element of the stage in PCM and can't just pull in stages already in the game and do a basic job of editing. The change was made cira 2010. If you can still edit the original way, I would still like to know how.

I only started playing PCM in 2010, so I don't know how you created stages before, but with the new system I created something close to thousand up until now. That's why I was asking. One can still edit already made stages, provided that zcts file of the stage is available. That is not the case for stages made by Cyanide, but is for most of those created by the community of PCM players.
 
While wondering around french Alpes minding my business i've encountered (for now) two places that could be a potential finish place for a smaller french race or even bigger ones - Dauphine, TdF. Those two places seems to be big enough and have enough maybe available space for a MTF. But first some unfinished business.

1. La Léchère-les-Bains - Madeleine south.
I've tried in the past to work out a close downhill finish after Madeleine south but without much success. Maybe the closest to a proper finish place is La Léchère-les-Bains which is part of La Léchère. It's 3,6km SE from the base of Madeleine, just before Aigueblanche.
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It does look small but it was actually a start place for Dauphine 2013 stage 6. Possible stage finish could be maybe held on the NE bank of Rue des Thermes. This part of Rue des Thermes isn't the widest one, but after Madeleine south i don't think there's a high risk of a bigger bunch sprint.
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Madeleine south ascents (the regular La Chambre one, Montgellafrey one or Chaussy one) are propably one of the hardest climbs in France with the La Chambre side being easily usable. The connection with Glandon/Croix-de-Fer is great, but there was always problem where to place the finish. Longchamp 1650 is a perfect place for a MTF that for some reason doesn't feature in TdF/Dauphine, but besides that it seems to suffer the same problem Tourmalet does (la Mongie is IMO underused). Moûtiers is still around 8km off the base of Madeleine but those additional flat kms often can be crucial to limit or evaporate any time diff. If La Léchère-les-Bains could work then it would be half closer than Moûtiers which is a lot better and gives much bigger chances to keep the time diffs that were after the descent (lesser fatigue importance for attackers).

If you, in the future, would have any problems how to use Madeleine south and struggle to keep it impactful then maybe you could give some small interest into this small and easily skipable place.

2. Saint-Sorlin-d'Arves - Croix de Fer.
Col du Glandon/Croix de Fer is a very good set of ascents with Glandon north being the hardest one. You can nicely link it with La Toussuire and Mollard. There are two good places for a finish used so many times in races - La Toussuire MTF and Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne. I've maybe found another passibility that doesn't look that outta world. Saint-Sorlin-d'Arves lies on NE side of Croix de Fer, a 7 kms off the summit.
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It's basically the last settlement before Croix de Fer but it's quite sizeable. It has a ski station south of Croix de Fer (Chalets de la Balme, Lac Bramant). Ski stations normally have some available space for finish and this time it's no different; actually it looks like over 6000m^2 which is good enough for even Tour de France.
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The placement of this station is quite unusuall as it's slightly off the main Croix de Fer road on Route du Plan du Moulin.
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Finish would be then on Route du Plan du Moulin which is quite wide. The pic below is as of year 2009 so there could be some changes but there is quite plenty of space available.
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Now, what change it does to La Toussuire and Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne finishes? Those ones are good with any Croix de Fer west ascent (Glandon side) but Croix de Fer east is then a descent. Saint-Sorlin-d'Arves opens Croix de Fer east as a MTF possibility and Mollard south being more important (either the Villargondran snake road side or regular Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne side). A possible design for a MTF:
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I've used regular Croix de Fer ascent but with a small twist near the end - an additional bump in Saint-Jean-d'Arves, just 5 km before finish. This bump connects the regular Croix de Fer road with a parallel D80B road (is it called Route Panoramique?) that splits just outside the longest tunel and comes back in Malcrozet, just before Saint-Sorlin-d'Arves. This bump is roughly 1,8km at 8% (cat. 3) on a quide wide road (1,3-1,5 lane) and average to slightly less than average surface. Last 4km are flat or slightly downhill.
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Such MTF would be very irregular - 3 short but steep cat. 2 and 3 climbs in quick succesion and without a proper descent to recouperate. Insert Mollard south or La Toussuire to even harden the MTF. You can use this place as a descent finish as well, Glandon north is very hard and combined with Madeleine north it could be very interesting.

3. Col des Saisies - Signal de Bisanne.
I'm not the biggest fan of Signal de Bisanne. I feel like it's overhyped. It seems like hyped to the point of being competitive with the likes of Mont du Chat, Val Pelouse, Madeleine south. It's around as hard as L’Alpe d’Huez is, which is obviously hard (HC cat.) but it seems like it has a bigger follow up than L’Alpe itself. Their placement problems are similar. L’Alpe has great climbs like Glandon/Croix de Fer and Galibier separated by unfortunate placement in the middle of Val Romanche flats. Bisanne has quite lengthy Val Doron false-flat. 7km off a quite nice 2 cat. Col de la Forclaz and neverending downhill and then flat from Cormet de Roselend. L’Alpe has this advantage that it's a MTF while Bisanne isn't and doesn't seem to have any good close finish (Beaufort maybe?) but Bisanne is more irregular than L'Alpe (which isn't that regular itself) which can be more painful to some riders. But wait, there's a small hitch.

On top of adjacent to Bisanne Col des Saisies (very famous col used countless times in french races) there is a quite big ski station with lots of parking place to choose and even some places like especially created to host a stage finish. BTW, was it this station that hosted biathlon competitions in '92? I don't remember Dauphine or Tour ever having a finish here which for me is quite strange. This ski station can give Bisanne a big boost and because Tour is actually using Bisanne this year that means maybe in the future there will be a MTF possibility.
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From the top of Bisanne to Col des Saisies there are only 4km which first 2km are downhill and last 2km are around 6% uphill. I think it would be a very nice HC MTF on it's own like L'Alpe but problems with connection could be problematic. Just not to overuse this MTF and maybe it would be acceptable for cycling/design critics and experts.

I've presented and portrayed those finish possibilities so maybe someone who hit a wall in TdF or Dauphine or other French Alpes race could use some of those places and know some technicall details about them beforehand. If somebody else found a nice finish place in some country and doesn't know how to include in any race or just doesn't plan to include in any race than maybe that person could share such discovery with the world.

Linkinito once created the 20 forgotten or unknown to TdF fench climbs thread. I wonder if like 20 forgotten or unknown to TdF relatively realistic french finish possibilites is a viable option. Because Auch in Route du Sud 2015 presented itself very nicely, Marmande, Magny-Cours and La Flotte/Saint-Martin-de-Ré on Île de Ré are waiting too. Pontcharra for Dauphine (maybe even Tour?) is another relatively unknown hotspot for hilly/medium mountain racing.
 
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I've been missing from this thread for a while. I guess I'm going to fix it now that I have some time...
I'm posting that Tour de France I've been putting off for a while (mostly because I kept changing my mind on which kind of Tour I wanted to post). This one pays homage to the First World War during its first week, passing through the sites of some of the key battles in northern France (Verdun, Cambrai, Saint-Quentin channel, etc), before heading east then south, with stages in four "major" mountain ranges in France (Vosges, Alps, Massif Central, Pyrenees), before heading back to Paris.

Tour de France Stage 1: Compiègne - Compiègne, 9km (ITT)
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Climbs: None.

The race starts off with the first homage to the World War, in Compiègne, where the Armistice with Germany was signed. In fact, the stage starts at the Clairière de l'Armistice - the location where the 1918 armistice was signed.
The stage itself is very short (9km - pretty much a long prologue actually) and extremely fast, with only three corners along the route. Not too remarkable (except for the potential breaking of the fastest Tour ITT stage ever record, set in 2015), but we're just getting started here.
 
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Tour de France Stage 2: Beauvais - Rouen, 189km
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Climbs: Université de Rouen (2,8km, 4,6%), Rue des Canadiens (1,1km, 9,5%)(two passes), Bonsecours (2,9km, 4,7%)(two passes).

The first road stage, between Beauvais and Rouen, features an extremely hilly ending, with all five categorized hills within the final 50km, in the outskirts of Rouen. The stage ends with a circuit, featuring two climbs (one of them the short and very steep Rue des Canadiens) which are climbed twice. A great stage for classics specialists, with very little flat terrain at the end.
 
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Tour de France Stage 3: Le Havre - Abbeville, 175km
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Climbs: Dieppe (1,9km @ 4,5%), Saint-Laurent 1,8km @ 5,1%)

Next comes a mostly flat stage between Le Havre and Abbeville. There are some small climbs scattered along the stage, but they're short and not too steep, so the stage will likely go to a sprinter. About half the stage is raced on exposed roads along the Atlantic coast, so there's a chance of crosswinds occurring.
 
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Tour de France Stage 2: Beauvais - Rouen, 189km
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Climbs: Université de Rouen (2,8km, 4,6%), Rue des Canadiens (1,1km, 9,5%)(two passes), Bonsecours (2,9km, 4,7%)(two passes).

The first road stage, between Beauvais and Rouen, features an extremely hilly ending, with all five categorized hills within the final 50km, in the outskirts of Rouen. The stage ends with a circuit, featuring two climbs (one of them the short and very steep Rue des Canadiens) which are climbed twice. A great stage for classics specialists, with very little flat terrain at the end.
The final climb,la cote de Bonsecours (Good Help - Bon Secours) is where Robic attacked in the last stage of the '47 TdF and went on to win.
 
I was going to set off on a Tour de France myself, having not done so in quite a long time, but so as not to conflict with yours I'll hold off for the time being, instead I will shortly post another race I have in mind, a short stage race which consists almost entirely of ideas I've recycled from race ideas either abandoned or redone.

A thought has hit me recently, however, which is a way I could feasibly set up a working library again given the limits on the number of links and the impossibility of editing all the old library posts. I have been cataloguing the direct links to posts bit by bit; I stopped for a looooong time but recently started collecting them again piece by piece. And my proposal, if it is feasible, would need a bit of a hand from the other posters in the thread if they were willing to assist me with it. My suggestion is this:


In another part of the forum, probably the Fantasy & Games subforum since that's where the Race Design Challenge went, a separate thread is set up, solely for the purpose of the Race Design library. Any posts that aren't Race Design library posts would probably need to be deleted as off-topic. But the idea would be that that thread would be searchable. Each library post could be along the lines of the one I did for the Giro Rosa, i.e. title of the race at the top, then an individual link to each stage (no need for the wiki graphics for stage type, though if you wanted it could be cool). A series of headings would replace the network of interlinked posts I previously had.

I suggest:

Race Name

Format: (choice of One-Day, Short Stage Race, Grand Tour)
Class: (World Tour, WC/NC, HC, .1, U23, Women, Fictional)
Continent: (self explanatory)
Country/ies: (self explanatory)

List of stage links

That way, you could go into the library thread, and get it to, say, filter the results to show you every race designed in Italy, or every fictional one day race, every World Championships circuit, or every Asian stage race, as unless you specifically know what you're looking for, old ideas may be lost in the bowels of the thread somewhere.

The drawback is that you would need to go into another part of the forum to search the thread, and it would also probably require a mod to be on hand to ensure any non-library posts were deleted from the thread. It might make things a bit cumbersome, plus expecting everybody who posts a race to do a catalogue of it might take a bit of the fun about it, which is after all the point.

What do people think?
 
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In my humble opinion that's a good idea.
I've recently created a short Pre-season race that would take place durning February and in a Region of Italy that isn't exactly well known for hosting cycling races.
It's the Giro della Basilicata, a short stage race that consists of 4 stages.
There used to be an actual Giro della Basilicata for junior riders that took place durning the 2nd half of September, but the race got cancelled in late 2014 (lack of founds). The last one was held in 2013, it was the 32nd edition, the race consisted of 3 stages and Robert Power finished 3rd, only 1 second behind the winner Aurelien Paret-Peintre, Lorenzo Rota finished 2nd, he was also only 1 second behind the winner, those are probably the smallest time gaps on the podium of a stage race that I've ever seen.
I'll start posting the first stages soon.
Edit: I've changed the length of the stage race, now it's only 4 stages, the final sprint stage didn't add much to the race, so I cancelled it, there's still a stage for the sprinters that can climb a little bit.
 
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The issue with putting the "new" library in a different topic/forum can be solved by just putting up a link in the first post. The moderation issue would be trickier, but as long as people don't spam the thread (or start putting up races there that should go in here) it should be fine.
Another thing that should be done is to "filter out" older races with broken links/pictures, particularly from the earlier pages of the thread.
If it's being set up, it would be a good idea to divide the work for the older races (say, one user volunteers to make the library for pages 1-10, another for pages 10-20, and so on), so that we don't end up trying to put up races that someone else already did.

Anyway, continuing my Tour:

Tour de France Stage 4: Albert - Cambrai, 188km
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Climbs: None
Cobbled sectors: #13 Pont-Thibaut (***), #12 Orchies (**), #11 Beauvry-la-Forêt (***), #10 Tilloy (****), #9 Millonfosse (**), #8 Arenberg (*****), #7 Haveluy (****), #6 Maing (***), #5 Verchain-Maugré (***), #4 Vertain (***), #3 Saint-Python (***), #2 Quiévy (****), #1 Carnières (***)

Stage 4 takes us into the Hindenburg Line area, where many of the Great War's key battles were fought. The starting town, Albert, would be one of the first towns captured by the Allies during the decisive Hundred Days offensive in 1918, while finishing town, Cambrai, would see the first massive use of tanks during the war in 1917, and would stage several battles during the Hundred Days offensive the next year.
Oh, and there are cobbles everywhere.
A total of 13 cobbled sections (including three 4-star sections, and the 5-star Trouée d'Arenberg) will be the deciding factor in this stage. Some race favourites might drop out of contention here if they end up in the wrong cut in the péloton or get caught up in a fall. A cobbles specialist will probably come out of here leading the general classification, since gaps should be relatively small after the first three stages.
 
Oh, I've already got well past page 100. You don't need to worry about the old stuff. Since the old "network" library was filled with all the old files and dead links, I have no qualms about maintaining them warts and all. It might even allow people to fix or update some of them if they so wish.
 

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