Race Thread

[DNP-Old]

Baal is very muddy today.

 

[Axel Hangleck]

Ryan Kamp also riding for his own team. Interestingly on Colnagos and Campagnolo. Felipe Orts still on BH's and Stybar gone back to his roots at the Fidea team with Ridleys.

I believe the Roodhoofts helped him, and will pay him a salary. Both Kamp & Orts are visible in races - why haven't teams offered them proper contracts.
A Spanish rider on a Belgian team would surely be a marketing win....instead we get too much insularity.

Also, I'll keep banging the drum for Zemanova - and Bentveld.....two top U23 riders not on WT teams.

 

[lemon cheese cake]

I believe the Roodhoofts helped him, and will pay him a salary. Both Kamp & Orts are visible in races - why haven't teams offered them proper contracts.
A Spanish rider on a Belgian team would surely be a marketing win....instead we get too much insularity.

Also, I'll keep banging the drum for Zemanova - and Bentveld.....two top U23 riders not on WT teams.

Well that's strange then. As you say why haven't teams picked him up (and I guess Orts maybe as well)? But if they are paying the salary, even if he is not riding in the kit of one of the teams, why is he not on the some of the same equipment that the rest of the whole formation use. E.g. Why Colnago and Campag and not Shimano and Canyon or Stevens.

 

[RedheadDane]

Have they been handing out duck-hats to the spectators?

 

[DNP-Old]

Van Empel is like a deer in the headlights. Every strip where the slightest of technical abilities are required looks shaky.

 

[Axel Hangleck]

Ryan Kamp vindt geen ploeg, maar gaat met oude Italiaanse bekenden individueel verder

Ryan Kamp komt per 1 januari 2024 uit als individuele crosser. De 23-jarige Nederlander kreeg bij Pauwels Sauzen-Bingoal geen contractverlenging, maar vond ook nergens anders onderdak. Uiteindelijk boden de gebroeders Christoph en Philip Roodhooft uitkomst. Zij hielpen Kamp met mooie sponsors...

www.wielerflits.nl

 

[Wyndbrook]

VdP gets fined the equivalent of what it costs to gas up his Lambo and the organizers issue a strongly worded response to the hooligans "These types of spectators do not belong" (and would not have been there if they didn't have the 10 euro entrance fee).

I believe entry fee was 20 euros on the day, 15 in advance.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I have no idea what you're even arguing at this point.

And yet you are accusing me of defending the indefensible??? I have defended nothing and nobody, except those who think that restraint is a response that should be exercised.

My argument is that MVdP's response, while not ideal optically, was a justified response to fan behavior.

Anger is very often justifiable (and is so in this case): irrational expressions of, it are not. That is why I can't accept your "What are the riders expected to do" as if this were the only response open to him, and why I asked the question that you have ignored about those who face verbal abuse and physical threat in other jobs.
I would suggest that it goes well beyond being "not ideal optically": he is paid vast sums to have a shampoo associated with the highest of sporting endeavours, not to have it associated with aggressive spitting. It is incumbent on professional sportsmen to be alert to such things.

As the race organizers acknowledged, they not only booed him but threw beer on him.

If the race organisers threw beer on him, then we do indeed have a problem.

In any case, he got a slap on the wrist and we move on. Hopefully, those kinds of trashy fans are not permitted to sully races in the future.

In this much, we agree.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I heard that somewhere but honestly I have no clue, but how could everyone afford enough beer to get all shitty if it was much more?

Maybe if they didn't continue to sell beer to people who have already had too much of it...

 

[RedheadDane]

I'm gonna that a little bit of a Danish podium!

 

[theyoungest]

Brand trying every trick in the book, she knows that Fem doesn't have the confidence at the moment, but in the end Fem is just the strongest. Certainly on the running sections.

 

[jono]

3 Canadian teenagers in the top 10, just as we all predicted.

 

[theyoungest]

3 Canadian teenagers in the top 10, just as we all predicted.

Always cool to see someone so genuinely happy on the podium

 

[Bolder]

Good course for Wout, he has had Mathieu's number before when it's muddy.

 

[Bolder]

Stybar in his own jersey now that he's formally done with Jayco.

 

[Aimar16]

Looks like another easy MvdP win

 

[awavey]

Looks like another easy MvdP win

yes I thought after the way the womens race had gone theyd be alot closer in the mens, and we'd have a right battle, especially as the course deterioates and mud gets worse, but MvdP is making it look alot easier.

 

[Bolder]

Looks like another easy MvdP win

If so, a bit of a surprise. This is his kind of course, Mathieu just rode him off the wheel...

 

[Tim Cahill]

Only way VDP can get beat is in his head, Van Aert should start talking mess about him in his interviews, get the fans booing put the pressure on like Alex Ferguson used to do.

 

[Bolder]

This is also MvdP riding angry. He's not easing up one bit. On the other hand I'd like him to save this condition for the spring classics.

 

[awavey]

classic Hatchism, apart from obsessing about the new Jumbo Visma yellow kit "everyone is changing their bikes on the half lap in the pits due to the conditions"

MvdP sails past the pits again with no bike change...

 

[samhocking]

Neither Wout nor Pidcock are racing CX Worlds with MVDP so I'd expect their form continues rising towards the Spring Classics and MVDP form falls off a bit perhaps? Saying that though, Wout's big objective this year seems to be Giro GC/Stages and Pidcock's entire season is focused on Tour de France.

 

[theyoungest]

If so, a bit of a surprise. This is his kind of course, Mathieu just rode him off the wheel...

MVDP is just so far ahead conditionally right now, it doesn't really matter which course you put in front of him. Commentators try to keep it a bit exciting but you can see from the first second that he's just waiting before he drops everyone.

 

[Bolder]

classic Hatchism, apart from obsessing about the new Jumbo Visma yellow kit "everyone is changing their bikes on the half lap in the pits due to the conditions"

MvdP sails past the pits again with no bike change...

It was faster in that section to go through the pits.

 

[KZD]

Neither Wout nor Pidcock are racing CX Worlds with MVDP so I'd expect their form continues rising towards the Spring Classics and MVDP form falls off a bit perhaps? Saying that though, Wout's big objective this year seems to be Giro GC/Stages and Pidcock's entire season is focused on Tour de France.

No, Van Aert has said that his main goal are the cobbled classics and there will be no Giro GC just stages. He still has plenty of time to improve his condition ahead of the classics but I see no reason to believe Van der Poel won't arrive there in top shape either.

Pidcock quite disappointing today has to be said, Van der Poel once again looking magnificent.

Awesome podium for Ava Holmgren in the women's race.