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Radio Shack already done with Cycling???

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Barrus said:
Was mainly due to the behaviour of Bruyneel and his entitlement complex

I guess winning 9 Tours as DS doesn't bring any entitlement...?!?!

Nick C. said:
The Tour is over and other than maybe the Tour of Britain or a half hour clip on the Veuelta so is their cycling programming for the year.

+1. Exactly. How many GoDaddy.com commercials do you see once the Super Bowl is over?
 
Gee333 said:
I guess winning 9 Tours as DS doesn't bring any entitlement...?!?!

It's more the "well, we don't want to go to the Giro. We'll charge to appear. We want to go to the Giro. Oh, they don't want us. Well, we never wanted to go anyway!" sulking, or the miserable bad comedy of "our season's goals are the Tour of California and the Tour de France. Those are the only races we care about. So much that we'll send B-teams to the major classics, and avoid putting in A-squads for pretty much any other race. We can always send the dregs to the Vuelta. What do you mean we're not invited? That was our season's aim!"
 
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Marketing BS? really? Sponsoring a team is marketing BS?

Who ever would have thought such a thing!?!?

...of COURSE it's marketing "BS". Companies don't sponsor teams out of benevolence for cyclists. They sponsor teams for the marketing opportunities. In Radio Shack's case, it's an opportunity to cross-brand with Livestrong. Now I know it's satan spawn in these parts, but outside the forum Livestrong is a very respected and powerful brand identity.

And it's obviously working. Even the haters are talking about Radio Shack, Livestrong, et al. What's the old saying? "There's no such thing as bad publicity!"

Succès de scandale!
 
Gee333 said:
And it's obviously working. Even the haters are talking about Radio Shack, Livestrong, et al. What's the old saying? "There's no such thing as bad publicity!"

Succès de scandale!

I'd say it's only the haters who are still talking about Radio Shack.
As you say, your Superbowl of cycling finished in July, as did the team and it's supporters.

Oh and I think Armstrong would prefer to do without the kind of publicity he is getting, right now.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
It's more the "well, we don't want to go to the Giro. We'll charge to appear. We want to go to the Giro. Oh, they don't want us. Well, we never wanted to go anyway!" sulking, ... We can always send the dregs to the Vuelta. What do you mean we're not invited? That was our season's aim!"

But shouldn't we all be used to this type of stuff from them by now? It's not like they haven't done it before. I don't totally disagree with your statement and what I'm about to say isn't directed towards you specifically, but I find all this nitpicking on every word and action JB, LA and so on does a little tiresome. Do you guys not get tired of all this constant crapping on everyone?

Sure LA and JB are the evil empire but you guys need them. If it weren't for them you'd all be bored and have nothing better to do. Instead it's thread after thread about how everyone hates these guys. It just gets tired and old when there are better things to talk/post about.

That being said, I really can't wait to see AC and AS battle it out next year!
 

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Gee333 said:
I guess winning 9 Tours as DS doesn't bring any entitlement...?!?!

Nope, not really, especially not if you start with a new team, which seems intend on denigrating certain races and the showing he gave in previous years in anything after the tour, or most prior to the tour
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
It's more the "well, we don't want to go to the Giro. We'll charge to appear. We want to go to the Giro. Oh, they don't want us. Well, we never wanted to go anyway!" sulking, or the miserable bad comedy of "our season's goals are the Tour of California and the Tour de France. Those are the only races we care about. So much that we'll send B-teams to the major classics, and avoid putting in A-squads for pretty much any other race. We can always send the dregs to the Vuelta. What do you mean we're not invited? That was our season's aim!"

I'm not sure I agree with your analysis in regard to A-squad and B-squad.

I'd say that their three biggest "name" riders would be Armstrong, Leipheimer and Kloden. I think it's hard to say they didn't send an "A" squad if one of those riders was at a stage race.

The only stage races they competed in without at least one of them riding were the Giro Sardegna (Horner was 2nd, Brajkovic 4th), 3 days of west flanders (minor race), Vuelta a Castilla y León (Brajkovic 4th), Romandie (Brajkovic 6th), Picardie (minor race), Tour of Belgium (Hermans 6th), Dauphine Libere (Brajkovic 1st), Tour of Austria (3 guys were at Tour, Machado 4th), Wallone (3 guys at Tour), Poland, Denmark, l'Ain, and Tour du Poitou-Charentes.

The only ones that might warrant comment for not sending one of their 3 big names would be Romandie, Dauphine Libere and perhaps Castilla y Leon... but they got good results in those three races.

In the cobbled races... they sent the best guys they had. They just don't have a good cobbled team.

In the major 1-days... again I'm not seeing who else should have gone. Neither Kloden or Leipheimer has ever shown anything in 1-day races. Brajkovic and Horner are probably their best two for the hillier ones and they don't have anyone for the flatter ones.

Overall... I don't see an issue with them not sending their "A" Squads to races... it's just their "A" riders didn't do very well. Their "B" guys performed a LOT better.
 
Gee333 said:
Sure LA and JB are the evil empire but you guys need them. If it weren't for them you'd all be bored and have nothing better to do. Instead it's thread after thread about how everyone hates these guys. It just gets tired and old when there are better things to talk/post about.

That being said, I really can't wait to see AC and AS battle it out next year!

As long as I've got HTC-Columbia out there, I don't need LA or JB to hate. I have all the hate I can handle from that bunch of bores.

And I can wait for AC and AS battling next year. There's a much more exciting race going on right now, and next year I'll be way more psyched for the Giro and Vuelta than the Tour, as usual, because the Tour, as usual, will be a boring disappointment compared to the other two.

Once more the Tour will go down as the dullest of the GTs this year. At least this year it put up a bit of a fight rather than rolling over and dying. Last year's Tour managed to even out-bore the Vuelta, which took some doing since the '09 Vuelta was basically two weeks of tentative racing followed by a week-long training ride helmed by José Vicente Garcia Acosta.
 
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StyrbjornSterki said:
All Bruyneel is entitled to is the paycheck Radio Shack gives him each month. His riders won nine TdFs but he never rode a single stage. UCI and ASO owe him exactly bupkis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YCuQsGVV20

Napoleon never fought a single war him self, yet he was a military genius that certainly deserves praise for winning his wars.

(Not that I think JB is a genius, just making a point about your meaningless post)
 
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Why would an American retail business with ZERO stores in Europe sponsor a continental European team participating in a sport that largely is invisible in the US, especially when they stand roughly zero chances of wining the one event that draws any interest in America?

There were rumors that Radio Shack was expanding into European markets. There were also rumors that as a cash-rich, sales-poor corporation, Radio Shack was angling for a leveraged buyout. The way I see it, sponsoring Lance (and those other weenies) was just a way to hype the company for potential buyers. Imagine the possibilities, as it were. When I learned Radio Shack is a Texas company, the pieces fall into place.
 

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Will be this the end of it ?

"Shack drags organizers of missed races in to court"

Team Radio Shack asks CAS to arbitrate after the sudden non-invite to the Tour of Lombardy.

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auscyclefan94 said:
JB is a sad little man if he is just going to dump this team once lance is gone. He built it up with Lance and then is going to leave a lot of riders without a contract. Sad...

Adding insult to injury, he ditched the top cyclist in the world for his has been-one time meal ticket. Then again, he was always a wheel chaser. Sad indeed.
 
theswordsman said:
I missed the part where we haters were given credit for the demise of Radio Shack. Was there a victory party?

Has JB remarked on the Lombardia diss? I figure it's the last chance for his arrogant self to insult pro cycling. Or does he have a warning in place from his twitter tirade after the 28 debacle?

Come to think of it, which do you think played a bigger part in this decision by organizers - his twitter outburst against their ilk or the current lawsuit and investigations?

Edit: Or because they snubbed the Giro?

Because they snubbed the Giro and LA would not of been racing. Love him or hate him, he bring up ratings.
 
Tangled Tango said:
Adding insult to injury, he ditched the top cyclist in the world for his has been-one time meal ticket. Then again, he was always a wheel chaser. Sad indeed.

I really dont get what the mentality of this man is. He won 7 tours with Lance. Then he found the next big thing. Contador. Another god knows how many GTs to follow.

And he drops contador:confused: Thats like winning the lottery and tearing up your ticket. Now he has nothing.
 

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I really dont get what the mentality of this man is. He won 7 tours with Lance. Then he found the next big thing. Contador. Another god knows how many GTs to follow.

And he drops contador:confused: Thats like winning the lottery and tearing up your ticket. Now he has nothing.

My guess it was a business decision. Maybe not the correct sporting decison.