Radio Shack already done with Cycling???

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Libertine Seguros said:
Pinotti I'll give you. Most of the rest came from TTs or just being there or thereabouts without really bringing much to the race. Tejay did an awesome job to protect his spot on Alpe d'Huez (with Chris Horner pacing him up the last couple of km iirc) but he had his spot because of a TT.

That's how Columbia rolls - get in as many national TT champions as you can - not only can they help pull back the breaks 90% the time, but they can get into a good GC position (it helps if, like Rogers, Martin and Pinotti - and Tejay seems to be another - they can do at least a decent job of climbing even if they'll be my least favourite type of GC rider, ie the Bruyneel-inspired 'do a great TT then suck wheels up the climb' type) and even win in races like the Vuelta a Murcia where the TT is almost invariably decisive.

Well... for stage races isn't that a standard way of doing it? Some GC guys gain time in the TT's and hold on in the climbs... others dance away on the hills but bleed minutes in long flat TT's. Others are somewhere inbetween in the spectrum.

Just because HTC follows the TT route, doesn't mean those aren't solid GC performances. I believe Indurain won several tours by less then the margin he put into the 2nd place rider in TT's... doesn't change the fact he was a great GC guy.
 
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Ferminal said:
Has RadioShack given any indication that they will continue sponsoring the team post-2011?

Did Saxo Bank give any indication in early Sept 2009 that they would continue sponsoring the team post-2010?
 

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Squares said:
Did Saxo Bank give any indication in early Sept 2009 that they would continue sponsoring the team post-2010?
Yes.

Saxo Bank actually said they would not continue sponsorship beyond 2010 - which is why Riis was actively looking for a replacement sponsor.
Saxo only appear to have stayed on as a part sponsor with the arrival Contador.
 

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haters on cyclingnews caused the shack to fold simple as that. These haters are the hard men behind the monitor.
 
Squares said:
Did Saxo Bank give any indication in early Sept 2009 that they would continue sponsoring the team post-2010?

No, quite the opposite, they gave plenty of indication that they would not continue post-2010 and speculation has been rife for 12 months :confused: As far as Riis was concerned, Saxo Bank were gone. In March, did you actually believe Saxo Bank were continuing in the sport?

Likewise with GCE, we have been speculating about them for 12 months, and that's a team which has been in the sport for decades.

But somehow we're not allowed to question TRS, a very recent team/sponsorship built around a sole objective which is no longer attainable. Surely it's just unfounded LA/JB hating :rolleyes:
 
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flicker said:
haters on cyclingnews caused the shack to fold simple as that. These haters are the hard men behind the monitor.

Hate is my middle name...but I only hate towards fake crusader who act like they are innocent. I'm not naming any names.
 
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Ferminal said:
No, quite the opposite, they gave plenty of indication that they would not continue post-2010 and speculation has been rife for 12 months :confused: As far as Riis was concerned, Saxo Bank were gone. In March, did you actually believe Saxo Bank were continuing in the sport?

Likewise with GCE, we have been speculating about them for 12 months, and that's a team which has been in the sport for decades.

But somehow we're not allowed to question TRS, a very recent team/sponsorship built around a sole objective which is no longer attainable. Surely it's just unfounded LA/JB hating :rolleyes:

the team yes, not the sponsor and to me there was never any doubt a replacement would be found for that either but Bruyneel is focussing on usa, whose economic crisis is so bad that sponsors fly out left and right everywhere not to mention bruyneels seems totally demotivated wthout having a tourwinner.
 

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No Shack in Lombardia - Piemonte although it was on Bruyneels latest updated to do wish list, again a sign on the wall :rolleyes: > [http://johanbruyneel.com/schedule.html]
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25 squadre invitate al Giro di Lombardia - Teams for Piemonte:

➢ AG2R LA MONDIALE (FRA)
➢ ASTANA (KAZ)
➢ CAISSE D’EPARGNE (SPA)
➢ GARMIN – TRANSITIONS (USA)
➢ LAMPRE – VINI FARNESE (ITA)
➢ LIQUIGAS – DOIMO (ITA)
➢ OMEGA PHARMA – LOTTO (BEL)
➢ QUICK STEP (BEL)
➢ RABOBANK (OLA)
➢ SKY PROFESSIONAL CYCLING TEAM (GBR)
➢ TEAM HTC COLUMBIA (USA)
➢ TEAM KATUSHA (RUS)
➢ TEAM SAXO BANK (DAN)
➢ ACQUA E SAPONE – D’ANGELO & ANTENUCCI (ITA)
➢ ANDRONI GIOCATTOLI – SERRAMENTI PVC DIQUIGIOVANNI (ITA)
➢ BMC RACING TEAM (USA)
➢ CERVELO TEST TEAM (SVI)
➢ COFIDIS, LE CREDIT EN LIGNE (FRA)
➢ COLNAGO – CSF INOX (IRL)
➢ ISD – NERI (ITA)

Vancansoleil by the way also no invite or what, despite the Cobra signing.

http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=news&cod=32464&tp=n
 
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I missed the part where we haters were given credit for the demise of Radio Shack. Was there a victory party?

Has JB remarked on the Lombardia diss? I figure it's the last chance for his arrogant self to insult pro cycling. Or does he have a warning in place from his twitter tirade after the 28 debacle?

Come to think of it, which do you think played a bigger part in this decision by organizers - his twitter outburst against their ilk or the current lawsuit and investigations?

Edit: Or because they snubbed the Giro?
 
theswordsman said:
I missed the part where we haters were given credit for the demise of Radio Shack. Was there a victory party?

Has JB remarked on the Lombardia diss? I figure it's the last chance for his arrogant self to insult pro cycling. Or does he have a warning in place from his twitter tirade after the 28 debacle?

Come to think of it, which do you think played a bigger part in this decision by organizers - his twitter outburst against their ilk or the current lawsuit and investigations?

He'll be promising us some "spicy" comments and complaining about how new sponsors aren't being rewarded for their interest in the sport (so old sponsors who've given several years to it should be kicked aside and taken for granted to make room for them I guess) like he did with the Vuelta. If he doesn't, then it's obvious that the motivation isn't there.
 
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Lance Armstrong is on the team roster for next year (probably for the US events) so I would be surprised to see Radioshack bolt
 
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red_flanders said:
Also a pity as Horner can do a great ride in Lombardia. Would have been more interesting with him there, at least to me.

Who should Horner and Brajkovic blame? Only JB and LA's arrogance! :cool:
 

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KazakhNeRider said:
Who should Horner and Brajkovic blame? Only JB and LA's arrogance! :cool:

Or their own decision to join that team, which they knew would be dependent with many races to get wildcards. Do we really make so many excuses for riders that chose to go to a pro-conti team, for example?
 
Barrus said:
Or their own decision to join that team, which they knew would be dependent with many races to get wildcards. Do we really make so many excuses for riders that chose to go to a pro-conti team, for example?
Who's making excuses? We just said we would have liked to see those riders, we didn't say it was unfair or outrageous or anything. Pretty sure many people think it's a pity Vacansoleil are not at the Vuelta, for example.
 

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hrotha said:
Who's making excuses? We just said we would have liked to see those riders, we didn't say it was unfair or outrageous or anything. Pretty sure many people think it's a pity Vacansoleil are not at the Vuelta, for example.

Was mainly due to the behaviour of Bruyneel and his entitlement complex
 
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LaBici said:
It was marketing BS from the get go. I have had no use for Armstrong and Bruyneel in the last few years. Horse ****. Pathetic end.

Marketing BS? really? Sponsoring a team is marketing BS?

Who ever would have thought such a thing!?!?

...of COURSE it's marketing "BS". Companies don't sponsor teams out of benevolence for cyclists. They sponsor teams for the marketing opportunities. In Radio Shack's case, it's an opportunity to cross-brand with Livestrong. Now I know it's satan spawn in these parts, but outside the forum Livestrong is a very respected and powerful brand identity.
 

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RS 'going to the dogs'

Johan Bruyneel: Will give an update later on Piemonte & Lombardia. Needless to say, it wasn't a good night's sleep.

Stay tuned.
 
Clemson Cycling said:
Lance Armstrong is on the team roster for next year (probably for the US events) so I would be surprised to see Radioshack bolt
Yeah, he's stated he will do some domestic races in 2011. It'll be interesting to see whether RS can even get an invite to the 2011 TdF. If they do, I think it's safe to assume Lance won't be on the squad. His ego can't take another drubbing like 2010.
 
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eleven said:
Marketing BS? really? Sponsoring a team is marketing BS?

Who ever would have thought such a thing!?!?

...of COURSE it's marketing "BS". Companies don't sponsor teams out of benevolence for cyclists. They sponsor teams for the marketing opportunities. In Radio Shack's case, it's an opportunity to cross-brand with Livestrong. Now I know it's satan spawn in these parts, but outside the forum Livestrong is a very respected and powerful brand identity.

Do you have a take on why all the cycling specific/Armstrong spots are not being shown on VS. No Michelob,Nissan or Radio Shack. They spent lots of money on the commercials and now they are not aired anymore..?
 
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fatandfast said:
Do you have a take on why all the cycling specific/Armstrong spots are not being shown on VS. No Michelob,Nissan or Radio Shack. They spent lots of money on the commercials and now they are not aired anymore..?

armstrong looks to be headed towards some legal problems. my guess is that sponsors probably want to distance themselves from him.

edit: and the armstrong brand isn't doing too well, as he is never gonna win (or race) the only race he ever cared about again.
 
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fatandfast said:
Do you have a take on why all the cycling specific/Armstrong spots are not being shown on VS. No Michelob,Nissan or Radio Shack. They spent lots of money on the commercials and now they are not aired anymore..?

The Tour is over and other than maybe the Tour of Britain or a half hour clip on the Veuelta so is their cycling programming for the year.