Real Madrid will probably ask for more rigid antidoping tests

[Ildabaoth]

According to Marca, Real Madrid will probably demand a more rigid antidoping policy in La Liga.

http://www.marca.com/2011/03/14/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1300061219.html

Currently, there is only one test for matchday, one player each team (just one match for matchday, not every single match). No blood test. No EPO or HGH detection. No tests on saturday's matches, just sunday's ones. In theory, it is possible to do additional tests any day, but that has never been done. You must be the most stupid footballer to get caught doped if you know when you can be tested, you know they can't catch you for using EPO or HGH, statistically just 2 players of your team are tested every season and there is not blood test.
Anyways, it is ok, because, as we all know, there is no doping in football. They shouldn't bother to do testing at all.

 

[Paco_P]

They just want everyone to remember that Pep got busted for doping.

 

[Benotti69]

They just want everyone to remember that Pep got busted for doping.

or they cant get on the same program as FCB

 

[la.margna]

marketing bla bla... or as mentioned, can't afford new sophisticated FCB programs anymore

 

[OneRaceWonder]

Clever move by RM. I don't think they're as juiced as Barca, and they have now realised that doping is more effective than money and buying all the best players in the world...

 

[sniper]

They just want everyone to remember that Pep got busted for doping.

or they cant get on the same program as FCB

marketing bla bla... or as mentioned, can't afford new sophisticated FCB programs anymore

Clever move by RM. I don't think they're as juiced as Barca, and they have now realised that doping is more effective than money and buying all the best players in the world...

It seems we have several winners today. Not sure what the first prize is, but you guys'll have to share it.

 

[sniper]

btw. Juicy info in that little article:

Según la COPE, el Real Madrid va a luchar por la limpieza de la Liga española y cree que hay que tomar medidas. En el club blanco, según la citada emisora, no entienden que Eufemiano Fuentes trabajara para el Valencia cuando el club che ganó dos ligas y tampoco entiende que haya médicos de “dudosa reputación” trabajando para el Barcelona.

Me didn't know that. i.e. that Fuentes worked for Valencia those years. Didn't know either that Barcas doctors apparently have a dirty reputation in Spain. Does anybody know what is meant? Do they have a doping history in other sports branches?

 

[Paco_P]

Mourinho used to be an assistant manager at Barca, when Pep was a player. Maybe he has some inside juice.

 

[Ildabaoth]

btw. Juicy info in that little article:

Me didn't know that. i.e. that Fuentes worked for Valencia those years. Didn't know either that Barcas doctors apparently have a dirty reputation in Spain. Does anybody know what is meant? Do they have a doping history in other sports branches?

Valencia CF are denying Fuentes worked with them, and as far as I know, there isn't any source to verify he did. About the Barça's doctors, one of them is Ramón Segura, who was Guardiola's personal doctor when he was tested positive and is related to De Boers' and Meca's positives as well. There aren't proofs, but Segura has worked with several footballers who tested positive, which, in football, is like if you were related to several persons who won the lottery.

 

[The Hitch]

There aren't proofs, but Segura has worked with several footballers who tested positive, which, in football, is like if you were related to several persons who won the lottery.

Absolutely brilliant

 

[sniper]

Valencia CF are denying Fuentes worked with them, and as far as I know, there isn't any source to verify he did. About the Barça's doctors, one of them is Ramón Segura, who was Guardiola's personal doctor when he was tested positive and is related to De Boers' and Meca's positives as well. There aren't proofs, but Segura has worked with several footballers who tested positive, which, in football, is like if you were related to several persons who won the lottery.

tanx for clarifying. very interesting indeed.

Absolutely brilliant

hehe. true

 

[sniper]

False alarm

Good to know, Barca is not doping, and don't nobody dare say they are:

http://es.eurosport.yahoo.com/14032011/47/liga-pique-amenaza-acusan-dopaje.html

Piqué se ha mostrado totalmente conforme con la respuesta del Barça e indignado por esas informaciones. "El club ya ha emitido un comunicado y dice lo que pensamos. En el fútbol, si ganas es porque eres mejor que el contrario. Quien juega mejor, gana. Es por eso y no por nada más", ha subrayado.

convincing

 

[hrotha]

Haha, "playing with fire"... I'll be nice and assume he means they're going to sue anyone who accuses them, because that's what they should do if they were innocent.

By the way, one of the biggest sports journalists around here is supposedly going to talk about football and doping tonight in his radio show.

 

[sniper]

I liked this one:

El central español ha explicado que el Barcelona cuenta con "un especialista en todo tipo de nutrición y alimentación", el doctor Ramon Segura. "Él nos indica lo que es mejor para nuestro cuerpo", ha asegurado. "Tomamos vitaminas como todo el mundo, nadie puede dudar de eso. Pero si alguien pone en duda que nosotros llegamos a consumir algo... es que esta jugando con fuego", ha insistido Piqué.

Haha, "playing with fire"... I'll be nice and assume he means they're going to sue anyone who accuses them, because that's what they should do if they were innocent.

By the way, one of the biggest sports journalists around here is supposedly going to talk about football and doping tonight in his radio show.

Ah yeah? Interesting. Let me know if he talks sense

 

[hrotha]

Meh, nothing about Barça, Madrid or Valencia (well, they said Barça was outraged and going to sue, and called former Valencia goalie Cañizares who denied the Fuentes allegations). They interviewed the president of Universidad de Las Palmas, who basically said Fuentes wasn't convicted, nothing was proven, nanana can't hear you.

They said some interesting stuff about Sabino Padilla, though. The journalist (De la Morena) said he knew about Padilla's methods and that his theory was that Padilla caused Gurpegi's positive by testing some stuff with him and that the players themselves probably know nothing about what they're taking. They said something about Real Sociedad and Losa (nothing new) but I wasn't paying attention by then.

Pretty sure they mentioned Dr. Ferrari advised Málaga though

 

[sniper]

Meh, nothing about Barça, Madrid or Valencia (well, they said Barça was outraged and going to sue, and called former Valencia goalie Cañizares who denied the Fuentes allegations). They interviewed the president of Universidad de Las Palmas, who basically said Fuentes wasn't convicted, nothing was proven, nanana can't hear you.

They said some interesting stuff about Sabino Padilla, though. The journalist (De la Morena) said he knew about Padilla's methods and that his theory was that Padilla caused Gurpegi's positive by testing some stuff with him and that the players themselves probably know nothing about what they're taking. They said something about Real Sociedad and Losa (nothing new) but I wasn't paying attention by then.

Pretty sure they mentioned Dr. Ferrari advised Málaga though

tanx for that summary.
Some things seem to be moving in the right direction in Spain. Some awareness is growing, very slowly, but surely.
Doping is apparently slowly ceasing to be a taboo.

The part in bold is probably as true as steel. (see Piqué's quote in my previous post for a confirmation). Moving to see how naive they are.

 

[alpine_chav]

Mourinho knows that on a level playing field any team he coaches will come out on top and it's obvious Barca are doped to the gills. Doping also benefits Barcas passing style more than Madrid's <deleted> style.

 

[The Hitch]

I just checked to see if any of the major british newspapers has any big story on Barca doping. Of course not. But will they continue to say things like that Cav shouldnt be given bbs sports personalit of the year because you cant give that to a sport with so much doping:? You cna bet your hosue on that

Mourinho knows that on a level playing field any team he coaches will come out on top and it's obvious Barca are doped to the gills. Doping also benefits Barcas passing style more than Madrid's <deleted> style.

Wrong verb. Narcisinho "thinks" this because he is an egomaniac but it is far from true. He has lost plenty of games on a level playing field or with an advantage, and he usually has the advantage.

Personaly i believe that a strategy that involves scoring goals by giving the ball to narcisinho junior, and having him run, push and if need shoot from 40 yards, would not be fully clean.

 

[alpine_chav]

Barca doping related tumor?

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/15032011/2/barca-abidal-surgery-liver-tumour-friday.html

I know it's just hearsay and maybe this has nothing to do with doping but can we expect to see more top players suffer like this due to past doping when they should theoretically be at their peak?

 

[D-Queued]

Barca doping related tumor?

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/15032011/2/barca-abidal-surgery-liver-tumour-friday.html

I know it's just hearsay and maybe this has nothing to do with doping but can we expect to see more top players suffer like this due to past doping when they should theoretically be at their peak?

"Liver damage and liver cancer can also result from high levels of steroid use"

It is not too late to get some awareness. If Abidal has the mental toughness, he can overcome this.

Dave.

(P.S. no disrespect meant towards Abidal whatsoever. Whatever the cause, this is bad news and I hope he recovers.)

 

[indurain666]

It is all a BS marketing move from Real Madrid. They have to play Barca twice in less than ten days for copa del rey final and then at home second classico to pretty much define La Liga. Moreover, they could play Barca in the Champion's quarters and they know Barca is going to win most of these matches. CR has played almost all matches and is completely overloaded. So Narcinho and Perez have started dirty campaign to try to justify the upcoming disaster.

I don't think footballers are clean, but I have no reason whatsoever to believe Barca is cleaner/dirtier than Real or any other first division European team. IMO, it is next to impossible to play whole 90 minutes of two matches per week at the level big boys in Europe play and fully recover.

UEFA vampires visited Barca players today and basically tested ten of their top players ....surprise surprise!!